Coming to my senses (long post)

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This is probably going to be one of my last posts about myself .. but just wanted to let everyone know if you have one or more amazing gorgeous and beautiful women who respect you , who have stuck with you longer than a few months and you're at the point where you have an abundance of options.. at some point or another it makes sense to come to your senses and just settle down and stop making these girls wait forever or continue to play this game of seeing each other but having no strings..

While in this modern day it works for alot of people especially when both sides are capable of pulling whoever they want.. but I think , with the help of some fine gentleman, and some older people I Respect (sadly my father isn't alive to give me advice).. I decided to really focus on the girl I love and care about the most. We're now 2 and some years maybe 2 years and 7 months.. that we've been seeing each other. I cut off 2 women who I was also seeing for a long time for this chick and plan on letting go all the women ive been sleeping with in the past 4-5 months (to be modest, its alot of diff women). I been told I was crazy for the length of 2 years by people around me for not settling down with this girl. Not going to make this a brag about her looks or anything because I already understand im operating on a different level than most.. But, the looks aren't what matters. This girl has stayed for the long run and has never really did anything wrong to me, nor has she been a pushover and kept me on my toes. She never once jus folded to everything or started being way too compliant lke some women in my life do which eventually makes me lose interest..

Something about her that seemed special to me.. was that we just met on the same "level" if you catch my drift.. I never once felt more confident than her , and I dont think she once ever felt more confident than me. We operated like we were on a level playing field nad there was never any real tug of war for leverage or any power dynamic, which I notice with so many women who are 8s and above, who don't become pushovers or who dont bend over backwards for me anytime I want.. She's also real kind hearted.. I think thats important. WE share similar goals, and I think she compliments me well.

im going to be 32 this year. For the last 32 years, I was a menace.. I can safely say that.. and I think up until this far my experience with women can be summed up in these ways:
1) First just growing up seeing women as less/dumb/not even realizing women were smart and complex (this lasted maybe up till 17-19.. and is part of the reason why i did so well with women, because I thought i could jus do whatever with them.. like they were dumb/inferior creatures. I grew up in an environment that was really just chauvinistic in alot of ways and hip hop culture and even family culture molded this into me).. Used to not care about women much and jut use them and move on like nothing

2) Understanding the deep and complex emotions that go along iwth relationships. Idk i grew up a menace, possibly becuase my parents werent very loving, were quite narcissistic and yet we never sat down for family dinners or ever spoke about emotions. It took quite a while for me to tart understanding the complexities behind relationships and emotions and things, but i faired well, this was prob 21-24.. In this stage of my life I was just flourishing off of variety of diff pu55y and having options.. bein gin the nightlife and feeling liike a pro when it came to game.. was picking up women anywhere everywhere, at what i thoguht was the peak of my game

3) Starting to understand even more about all the complex issues and types of personalities , psychology behind a vast majority of wome at this point, still learning new things that I didnt realize existed.. opening up to the ideas that eve Iwas vulnerable and that there will infact be women who dont like me as much as they might like someone else, and this was a very harsh reality for me to come to terms with.. while at the same time my game just becoming better and better, especially after my last relationship which ws quite hectic.. the only ex i didnt stay on good terms with.. Finally realizing what the end goal is and plans on eventually starting a family.. With this realization also came just wild happenings withw omen, almost like I developed some super powers to be able to pick and choose any chick i want to bone.. but coming to terms that if i continue on like this i would probably be in my 40s with no kids no family and just reminiscing over the glory days ..24-32 these are the years i stopped attracting toxic and weird chicks wiht issues and str8 beautiful, wholesome and good women inside and out.

The biggest mistake anyone can make about me is thinking that the road was easy.. Some things may have came easy for me in life but my life was full of adversity, trauma and alot of craziness... I didn't get to where I am just by skating down a hill.. There were many mountains to climb and difficult moments.

Settling down to me is a big deal. So much so that when I finally decided to and had that conversation with her and she cried because she felt we were on the same page and she was going to talk to me about the same thing, that it prompted me to cry as well. and it was weird as sh.t because I dont cry very often. I couldn't tell if i was happy, or sad about something or just surprised.. I think i was more surprised that this day would come. I think the fallacy is that I told myself it would be so hard for me to not sleep with other women for so long that i started to believe it.. but pickin up the phone and actually callling girls to let them know i was settlikng down wiht someone i cared about in front of her and some o fthem being happy for me, that was major. God blessed me to not only be able to sleep with tons of diff women but to have some good ass quality while at it....

but truth be told, if you read my last post about mindset.. It took for me to change myself and become a more disciplined and good person to reap good women in my life. Before i would always find something wrong with more than half the women I met or things would simply not last.

Always put God first, then have an open heart. At some point I was pretty cynical about women too in the sense that I saw most of them as hoes but Im glad i caught myself and was able to see that theres so many good women out there.

Out of all the women ive slept with in the past 2-3 years. (wouldnt even be able to count in all honesty), Its crazy to think that this girl had me wondering if she really liked me. the one girl who i wondered if she really liked me and was unsure about, was the girl I ended up choosing and finding out that she did infact like me in the way I liked her. I mean you would think "are you stupid? why wouldnt she like u and see you for close to 3 years" but you gotta understand when you been "casually dating" for so long, you never know. Ive lost more women than Most dudes meet. let that sink in. Unlike some people on here even if a owman has sex with me for along time i dont tell myself she loves me , i expect her to fall for me but the type of girls i end up liking are the ones who i dont know if they like me or not. the rest make it way to obvious and do whatever i say..

Anways Im def rambling now.. but yep going to work hard to stay loyal to this women and really take things further.

We all grow up at different ages.. I think im glad i finally decided to grow up. Im going to miss all the variety of pu55y though. You know its abd when before u go to sleep every night u think about and reminsce over diff moments you had with diff girls.. just to fall asleep.. dicc be harder than steel jus thinkin bout sht lol but i look forward to not bein so sexually charged up all the time.. will utilize that energy to really help those around me... i want all my friends and family to be the best they can be
 

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TLDR; After 32 years of being a menace and called everything from womanizer, player, chick magnet, gyalis, rizz god, pu55y slayer, you name it, and going from a kid who unintentionally hurt alot of women to being a man who truly understands women and just how dynamic and complex women are, while also not being very diff than men... and having an insane summer -- I finally decided to settle down with a girl who was a plate for a little over 2 and a half years now, almost 3.. plan is to start a family a year or two down the line.. not trying to rush it but def wnt to be a father before 35.

I also want to say that God and spirituality was a big part in me deciding to, at the peak of my abundance with women, change lanes completely. The craziest thing is when I first decided i wanted to settle down and start a family, was when life started throwing more pu55y at me than ever before.. I believe the devil is always hard at work. The things ive been able to do with women at times seemed completely super natural.. and while it can be summed up with looks/status/experience/self esteem/personality, --I believe the devil or some kind of devil ws definitely involved in some way..

I know it sounds strange to bring religion and spirituality into this but... I believe that this life is truly spiritual.
 
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Pics or stfu. Nobody cares about you and your boring ass gf. This is a forum for playboys and aspiring playboys.
 

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Pics or stfu. Nobody cares about you and your boring ass gf. This is a forum for playboys and aspiring playboys.
Frustration gotta suck. Keep tryin tho. Thanks for the laughs too btw.. was funny seein u make post after post after post and gettin shut down with the stupid advice and lame topics you wrote.

also dig in my post history if you really want to piss yourself off, i posted pics of my plates n sht before kiddo. infact as far as iknow im one of the only dudes who posted multiple chicks on here, not just like some random sht u can find on the net, but actual pics.. my bitches cookin in panties, m ein diff girls beds them half naked next to me, even texts of multiple girls to show some of you dweebs how bi.tches be beggin to see me. I only stopped cuz people thought I was flexing.. dont hate the playa, hate the game.
 

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Pics or stfu. Nobody cares about you and your boring ass gf. This is a forum for playboys and aspiring playboys.
This type of reaction is not congruent with the image of yourself that you're presenting on other threads (fit, rich guy with plenty beautiful women), which leads the reader to wonder which one is the REAL SmoothSmooth. :rolleyes:

This forum is for all things seduction related, and it can be argued that the ultimate playboy is the guy who has found a quality woman and is in a fulfilling relationship with her .
 

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This type of reaction is not congruent with the image of yourself that you're presenting on other threads (fit, rich guy with plenty beautiful women), which leads the reader to wonder which one is the REAL SmoothSmooth. :rolleyes:

This forum is for all things seduction related, and it can be argued that the ultimate playboy is the guy who has found a quality woman and is in a fulfilling relationship with her .
not incongruent bro you can tell from what I write it comes from a real person.
I just don’t see any point in telling a bunch of people you wanna settle down. That’s literally what everyone does. It’s not an accomplishment. Almost everyone I know over 28 is settled down either with a long term gf or wife. It’s normal. But dating top teir women when and as you please is a rare thing. I’m here to help people become successful playboys, because I lacked guidance when I used to follow PUA’s online.

it just comes across as narcissistic that you come to a forum about helping guys seduce girls to rant about your emotions for your girlfriend with zero context about whether she’s even objectively attractive etc…people should post here either a) asking for advice or b) providing value to others IMO
Not spilling their emotions out for some girl and claiming they’ve ‘come to their senses’
 

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I respect the fact that you put God first. I am a religious person myself. I also think everyone has a road of their own, with more or less struggles. Each with it's own path. But this is a forum where alot of us are coming for advice, to learn, to spill our hearts and minds out regarding women. And many of us are still struggling. You kinda had that vibe of bragging and that is not cool. You could keep it more humble next time.
 

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I just don’t see any point in telling a bunch of people you wanna settle down. That’s literally what everyone does. It’s not an accomplishment.

Almost everyone I know over 28 is settled down either with a long term gf or wife. It’s normal. But dating top teir women when and as you please is a rare thing. I’m here to help people become successful playboys, because I lacked guidance when I used to follow PUA’s online.
I think we should be challenging the notion of settling down. Models of traditional monogamy are broken at this time and it's unlikely that they can be fixed. I've made it to 40 years old and have never married and never had kids. I've had the courage to live life as I please. There have been consequences for it.

Let's talk about the idea that "models of traditional monogamy are broken at this time".

There are lots of Manosphere/red pill/black pill type voices who would agree that "models of traditional monogamy are broken at this time". Some of those voices offer solutions and the solutions are wide ranging.

Caleb Jones (Alpha Male 2.0, formerly Blackdragon) has argued for men adopting a non-monogamous relationship model into their lives. There are multiple forms of non-monogamous relationships that can be had. Caleb does have a non-monogamous marriage with an awkward looking woman. He's 51 right now and she's 44 right now. An age difference of 7 years in a relationship is a decent achievement, but she's not a great looking 44 year old. She has an odd facial shape among many things. Caleb is allowed to have sex with other women in his marriage, but his wife can also have sex with other men. Caleb believes that men can create a system within non-monogamy where they can have sex with multiple women, but their open relationship female partner won't be having sex with multiple men. It's dubious if that can actually happen, but he claims it's a real possibility.

When most men attempt non-monogamous relationships, the results are usually disastrous. Most men end up quasi-cucked in these relationships. I use the phrasing quasi-cuck because open relationship guys aren't technically cucks by the definition of cuck, but they look a lot like cucks in practice. When most men try open relationships, their women is getting more side penis than they are getting side vagina.

Also, non-monogamous marriages have a failure rate that's at least similar to monogamous marriages, if not higher. This is a point worth discussing. In both non-monogamous marriages and monogamous marriage, pre-nuptial agreements can limit the downside in a divorce. Plenty of men have gotten wrecked in divorces. Pre-nuptial agreements can limit the financial wreckage. By limiting the financial wreckage, they can also help with limiting the emotional wreckage as well. In a closed marriage, it would likely stink big time to find out your wife is having sex with other men even if you have a pre-nuptial agreement. A pre-nuptial agreement can't fix the emotional pain of sexual betrayal, so there'd still be some emotional pain.

There are non-monogamous relationship models that don't involve marriage and there are also monogamous relationship models that don't involve marriage.

Caleb Jones has an article about the models of relationships that men can follow. I've been closes to Options 3 and 6 from this framework over the course of my life.


Most men will choose Option 1, traditional monogamous marriage. Almost all of us will get to see our social circles live this life. Many of the men on this forum have been monogamously married at some point in time. I have a thread about my primary blue pill social circle and what their lives look like.


I perceive that I've lived life courageously by choosing to break the mold and challenge the notion of traditional monogamous marriage.

Not spilling their emotions out for some girl and claiming they’ve ‘come to their senses’
This is how a lot of men get wrecked in breakups and divorces. This also goes along with the idea that traditional monogamy is broken.
 

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Pics or stfu. Nobody cares about you and your boring ass gf. This is a forum for playboys and aspiring playboys.
This mentality that you can just play forever is rooted in inceldom, I mean don't get me wrong, you are right, this forum is for that but there's also many members who are reaching a point where playing is no longer as satisfying as it once was, I'm 33 myself, I'm sure by probably 38 ill be feeling the same way.

One observation: Abundance isn't abundance anymore when all the options out there for you are sub par, doesn't really matter how much option you have when you reach that point, there's also the quality factor which we younger players have the luxury of not needing to interface with yet.
 

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This forum allows good advice to be exchanged in order to build men up and have them become happier and more fulfilled...It also allows for the wrong people to use it as a platform to brag about how good they are at pick up and how every woman wants them. If these people talked in their social groups like they do here, they'd be seen as autistic. The ones who are truly succeeding are quiet killers who don't need to prove it to anyone. Very lonely and pathetic world we live in where men need to post on an online forum to feel themselves up and in their mind, create an image.
 

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TLDR; After 32 years of being a menace and called everything from womanizer, player, chick magnet, gyalis, rizz god, pu55y slayer, you name it, and going from a kid who unintentionally hurt alot of women to being a man who truly understands women and just how dynamic and complex women are, while also not being very diff than men... and having an insane summer -- I finally decided to settle down with a girl who was a plate for a little over 2 and a half years now, almost 3.. plan is to start a family a year or two down the line.. not trying to rush it but def wnt to be a father before 35.

I also want to say that God and spirituality was a big part in me deciding to, at the peak of my abundance with women, change lanes completely. The craziest thing is when I first decided i wanted to settle down and start a family, was when life started throwing more pu55y at me than ever before.. I believe the devil is always hard at work. The things ive been able to do with women at times seemed completely super natural.. and while it can be summed up with looks/status/experience/self esteem/personality, --I believe the devil or some kind of devil ws definitely involved in some way..

I know it sounds strange to bring religion and spirituality into this but... I believe that this life is truly spiritual.
'coming to your senses' - what does that mean?
 

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I think we should be challenging the notion of settling down. Models of traditional monogamy are broken at this time and it's unlikely that they can be fixed. I've made it to 40 years old and have never married and never had kids. I've had the courage to live life as I please. There have been consequences for it.

Let's talk about the idea that "models of traditional monogamy are broken at this time".

There are lots of Manosphere/red pill/black pill type voices who would agree that "models of traditional monogamy are broken at this time". Some of those voices offer solutions and the solutions are wide ranging.

Caleb Jones (Alpha Male 2.0, formerly Blackdragon) has argued for men adopting a non-monogamous relationship model into their lives. There are multiple forms of non-monogamous relationships that can be had. Caleb does have a non-monogamous marriage with an awkward looking woman. He's 51 right now and she's 44 right now. An age difference of 7 years in a relationship is a decent achievement, but she's not a great looking 44 year old. She has an odd facial shape among many things. Caleb is allowed to have sex with other women in his marriage, but his wife can also have sex with other men. Caleb believes that men can create a system within non-monogamy where they can have sex with multiple women, but their open relationship female partner won't be having sex with multiple men. It's dubious if that can actually happen, but he claims it's a real possibility.

When most men attempt non-monogamous relationships, the results are usually disastrous. Most men end up quasi-cucked in these relationships. I use the phrasing quasi-cuck because open relationship guys aren't technically cucks by the definition of cuck, but they look a lot like cucks in practice. When most men try open relationships, their women is getting more side penis than they are getting side vagina.

Also, non-monogamous marriages have a failure rate that's at least similar to monogamous marriages, if not higher. This is a point worth discussing. In both non-monogamous marriages and monogamous marriage, pre-nuptial agreements can limit the downside in a divorce. Plenty of men have gotten wrecked in divorces. Pre-nuptial agreements can limit the financial wreckage. By limiting the financial wreckage, they can also help with limiting the emotional wreckage as well. In a closed marriage, it would likely stink big time to find out your wife is having sex with other men even if you have a pre-nuptial agreement. A pre-nuptial agreement can't fix the emotional pain of sexual betrayal, so there'd still be some emotional pain.

There are non-monogamous relationship models that don't involve marriage and there are also monogamous relationship models that don't involve marriage.

Caleb Jones has an article about the models of relationships that men can follow. I've been closes to Options 3 and 6 from this framework over the course of my life.


Most men will choose Option 1, traditional monogamous marriage. Almost all of us will get to see our social circles live this life. Many of the men on this forum have been monogamously married at some point in time. I have a thread about my primary blue pill social circle and what their lives look like.


I perceive that I've lived life courageously by choosing to break the mold and challenge the notion of traditional monogamous marriage.



This is how a lot of men get wrecked in breakups and divorces. This also goes along with the idea that traditional monogamy is broken.
do you regret your decision?
 

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This is how a lot of men get wrecked in breakups and divorces. This also goes along with the idea that traditional monogamy is broken.
But the majority of men recover fine and end up living normal lives. The fear of being destroyed by women or being stuck in a bad marriage is keeping men in a matrix prison itself. Nobody is forcing you to stay in a bad relationship or get married.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Which decision are you referring to in the question?
You not marrying in 40s has consequences - this implies you may have doubts about your decision? Are you happy with it? What are the consequences?
 

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Nobody is forcing you to stay in a bad relationship or get married.
That's such an important point. I sensed in my primary social circle that certain men got married later in the wedding cycle because other men in the social circle had already gotten married. There has been a ton of lemming behavior within my social circle. I'm the only one who has dared to break the mold.

This is how a lot of men get wrecked in breakups and divorces. This also goes along with the idea that traditional monogamy is broken.
But the majority of men recover fine and end up living normal lives. The fear of being destroyed by women or being stuck in a bad marriage is keeping men in a matrix prison itself.
This is an interesting idea. I would like to consider more research about your claim. Divorces and even non-marital breakups are traumatic life events.

In the era before no fault divorce, a lot of people stayed in bad marriage for way too long. This was so common in the 1800s through the end of the 1960s. Due to no fault divorce, people don't ultimately stay in bad marriages anymore, though there's an argument that can be made that people stay in bad marriage for a few years longer than they should stay in them. Relationships often take longer to unwind than one would think that they would take.
 

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This forum allows good advice to be exchanged in order to build men up and have them become happier and more fulfilled...It also allows for the wrong people to use it as a platform to brag about how good they are at pick up and how every woman wants them. If these people talked in their social groups like they do here, they'd be seen as autistic. The ones who are truly succeeding are quiet killers who don't need to prove it to anyone. Very lonely and pathetic world we live in where men need to post on an online forum to feel themselves up and in their mind, create an image.
I never bragged about my results. I objectively have a model in my DM’s right now who liked my story first and asked me to take her out. I provide advice which will change your life. So much pua advice steered me wrong. For example the idea you have to focus on building a connection with women and impressing them with your game etc. which is antithetical to seduction (her proving herself to you is the dynamic you want…not the other way around) go through my posts, try the advice and then come back and tell me if I’m lying. My advice is adapted to the social media era; where ‘trying’ or using pua techniques such as teasing; negging/cold hot etc no longer works on the new generation of women that were raised on their smart phones. Women now want objective value and an aloof, laid back challenge (masculine frame). They need to see your value with their own eyes (your muscles; style, money etc) - often by stalking your social media…then they need to chase you and feel you are a little out of reach. The game has flipped. Women now compete for the attention of the top 10% of men. The top 10% of men has nothing to do with game, but is based on looks money and style. Someone like rsd Tyler would be looked at as a bafoon in the modern era, going around talking to lots of gen z girls in a club who are swiping on their phones - with his overt feminine gestures, terrible style and beer belly. first it starts with building your sexual market value. Opening girls is cool but is pointless if you don’t have the value in 2023 as she now has direct access to a world of succesful and athletic men in her phone
 
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This is an interesting idea. I would like to consider more research about your claim. Divorces and even non-marital breakups are traumatic life events.
If you let a divorce or breakup traumatize your life, then you are fvcking weak. If it wasn't the divorce/breakup it would've been something else that traumatizes your life. Hell, I would rather get divorced and pay the alimony then stick in a failed marriage with some psycho bvtch.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

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