Can a women be LTR material if you hit it the first night?

[Sue Madre]

You always seem so angry. Your moods seem to go up and down more than the Dow Jones Industrial. Marriage life not treating you well? We had met each other with other friends twice before...no date, and then we banged on our first official date. I appreciate you calling the girl I love a "slut", a girl you have never met, know nothing about, and is probably the sweetest and classiest person I have ever met. You're classy as ever mynameisnobody/bluntmaster.

See what I mean Amazing about the posting of my gf's pic pissing a few people off? I can always count on Mr. multiple alias here to throw in a post when I do. He is kinda like Pavlov's dog in that regard.

Squirrels the voice of reason as usual.

I'm not pissed, my girl is just as hot as yours. I just know that if I ever MARRIED a girl who put out on the first date, there would be a voice in the back of my head wondering how many c0ck carousels she has ridden in her life.

Here is mine, and that chic with the big nose was NOT her real pic.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/143/mybabed.jpg/

 

[5string]

I don't think it really makes a difference. I have been in ltr's where we waited to have sex for a few dates, and I have been in ltr's where we bang banged the first night. After you are with someone for 6 months, I really don't think you look back at it with your gf and say, "ya know, maybe if we had waited to sex it until the 5th date, we would be getting along better". haha You are either into each other or not. I think maybe 50 years ago it might have made a difference because of societal pressure for the girl to remain chaste and wholesome, but nowadays I think it makes no difference in how it affects the outcome of the relationship. My current gf of 2 years, I banged the hell out of her the first night, and its been non stop ever since. Best relationship of my life, not even fvcking close. We are like two peas in a pod. Have no idea how I went 30 some years of my life without this woman in my life. And just because I like to piss some people off, another pic of her.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/rose44.jpg/

Same here. I had my wife's panties off after just 3 hours on our first date. Does that make her a slvt? No. We just had instant attraction bigtime. Has she done this before? Probably, I don't know. What I do know, is that just like cordon, we spend all our time together and hit it nearly every day at least once and it's now been 3 years. After a rough start, I can now say that I really have true love for once in my life. It's not oneitis by any means. We get along, we fvck, do stuff for one another and both WORK at the relationship.

cordon....you just keep posting pics of your GF. Doesnt p!ss me off. You should be proud! She's very attractive. Piece of advice though. Tell her to lose the boots and get some heels. Why hide the nice legs? I'll be in your hood in August for sure. Buy you guys dinner and drinks if you would like.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Every man wants a slut, he just wants her to be HIS slut.

 

[TheHumanist]

I used to believe this, but with maturity and experience I discovered that this is simply a convenient rationale women use to maintain their options. Women know that their only real agency with men is their sexuality. They're all keenly aware that men's primary interest in them is ƒucking - everything else is ancillary to sex. The value a woman has beyond the sexual comes after she's been sexual.

I'd love to perpetuate the pretty lie that women hold off on sex in order increase their sexual market value to men, but I've known far too many "good girls" who'd string along patient, dependable (not necessarily betas) men because "she wanted them to like her for more than that" only to ƒuck a SMV Alpha the first night she met him.

So you saying your past experience of finding girls who made the act of making suitors wait never hold consistent, it really just mean she's just not that into him. I'm behind too many years to agree or disagree on that. I know some girls or girlfriends of some guys who made some wait. I haven't seen them break that behavior pattern so far. Then again, perhaps I haven't known them long enough to see/hear of a girl doing that same action.

Still, it doesn't answer the semi-contradiction. Or is your answer is girls with a zero or low notch number can be put to bed on the first night. You just have to be a SMV Alpha.

 

[Amazing]

Every man wants a slut, he just wants her to be HIS slut.

Every girl can be your slut if you teach her that having sexual emotions is good, you show her that you are emotional, and most important, you can show her that you are always in control of those emotions so she can be safe, no?

More emotional you get the girl quicker she will sleep with you - regarding your previous point. So if I do it and get laid that night, but those other guys didn't it could be that they were missing the paragraph above.

 

[zekko]

Perhaps the woman's IL is just that high, and perhaps you're the dude that's "worth it" to her. I've had a couple girlfriends who were early lays (2nd night). It doesn't necessarily mean you're dealing with a slut.

Right, she could be banging you just because she's that into you.
Or she could be banging you just because she's a slut.
It's your job to find out which.

 

[cordoncordon]

Same here. I had my wife's panties off after just 3 hours on our first date. Does that make her a slvt? No. We just had instant attraction bigtime. Has she done this before? Probably, I don't know. What I do know, is that just like cordon, we spend all our time together and hit it nearly every day at least once and it's now been 3 years. After a rough start, I can now say that I really have true love for once in my life. It's not oneitis by any means. We get along, we fvck, do stuff for one another and both WORK at the relationship.

cordon....you just keep posting pics of your GF. Doesnt p!ss me off. You should be proud! She's very attractive. Piece of advice though. Tell her to lose the boots and get some heels. Why hide the nice legs? I'll be in your hood in August for sure. Buy you guys dinner and drinks if you would like.

Sounds great for dinner and drinks. Let me know!

As for the boots, yeah that last pic and a few others lately were shot very recently, and believe it or not it has been pretty chilly in S. CA here at night lately. Low 50's or so, so she is saving the heels for when it gets a tad warmer.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Right, she could be banging you just because she's that into you.
Or she could be banging you just because she's a slut.
It's your job to find out which.

No.

Sex should be exploratory and a growing experience. It's not always going to be a transcendental experience, but it should be a learned one.

Listen, I'm not a solely spiritually led guy. When I'm with my woman, that is time she and I use to grow together. I had my current girlfriend so completely turned-on, the second day we spent time, she seduced me on her couch.

Is she to be labeled a slvt? Not at all. I used all of my super powers to hold tight the reigns of sexual tension until she couldn't stand it anymore.

It's never a man's job to discover her motivations for fvcking him. His motivation is to make that sexual dalliance the most memorable of her life.

Her job will be to make sure you're the guy she thinks about while other guys are jack-hammering away in her guts.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Self-Shots NSFW.

Have a look at the sheer volume and frequency with which average women will voluntarily become sexual here. Are they all sluts? How many of these women have uttered the words " I want to wait so I know you want me for more than sex?" How many of these women would make great wives in 5-10 years? How many of these women are thought of as the sweet natured "good girl"?

We can look at them with their clothes of and call them sluts, but would you know the difference if you saw her in church?

 

[Amazing]

Self-Shots NSFW.

Have a look at the sheer volume and frequency with which average women will voluntarily become sexual here. Are they all sluts? How many of these women have uttered the words " I want to wait so I know you want me for more than sex?" How many of these women would make great wives in 5-10 years? How many of these women are thought of as the sweet natured "good girl"?

We can look at them with their clothes of and call them sluts, but would you know the difference if you saw her in church?

Uh, if she is posting her nude pics somewhere PUBLIC, yeah, she is slutty. (that in my book is defined by wanting validation by means of attracting MANY males not just ONE specific best fitted one)

Here is a tip - level headed girls who are intelligent have told me they don't want to get fake breasts, even when they A cup. Also same girls who prefer to take it a step slower. They don't NEED immediate gratification, they know that a good thing might take time, and here is an idea, you know how women think men are dumb - MOST ARE. That's why they play games - to weed out!

 

[Nutz]

I used to believe this, but with maturity and experience I discovered that this is simply a convenient rationale women use to maintain their options. Women know that their only real agency with men is their sexuality. They're all keenly aware that men's primary interest in them is ƒucking - everything else is ancillary to sex. The value a woman has beyond the sexual comes after she's been sexual.

I'd love to perpetuate the pretty lie that women hold off on sex in order increase their sexual market value to men, but I've known far too many "good girls" who'd string along patient, dependable (not necessarily betas) men because "she wanted them to like her for more than that" only to ƒuck a SMV Alpha the first night she met him.

It might not be PC, but it's 100% true. If you have your stuff together there's no reason you can't be that guy that has sex with women on day 1. Took me about 4 years in the community to completely transition into such a person.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Here is a tip - level headed girls who are intelligent have told me they don't want to get fake breasts, even when they A cup. Also same girls who prefer to take it a step slower. They don't NEED immediate gratification, they know that a good thing might take time, and here is an idea, you know how women think men are dumb - MOST ARE. That's why they play games - to weed out!

As I stated prior, I used to believe this, until I understood the fundamentals of female hypergamy. For far too many men it's a comfortable fiction to think that attractive, self-conscious, "level headed" women really have the presence and forethought to 'weed out' what we men would rationally think would be the best fit for them. However, observably and predictably, their behaviors and choices don't bear this out. On the contrary, their behaviors prove the validity of female hypergamy even in the personalities of what we'd consider the most virtuous women. Even the bright, intelligent, good-girl selects for, and sexually prepares herself for, the most immediately accessible Alpha male her attractiveness will demand.

In the slutiness vs. virtue debate there will always be a schism for guys. We think of these terms in absolute measures; who'd want to marry a slut, right? But, who'd want to marry a sex-averse prude either? So we look for a balance between the two, while still maintaining this presence of expecting "quality" in a woman as a reflection on ourselves. Slut is as slut does, this is why I say all men want a slut, they just want her to be HIS loyal, skilled, hot and exclusively accessible slut.

 

[5string]

Sounds great for dinner and drinks. Let me know!

As for the boots, yeah that last pic and a few others lately were shot very recently, and believe it or not it has been pretty chilly in S. CA here at night lately. Low 50's or so, so she is saving the heels for when it gets a tad warmer.

Insulated socks until it warms up?

 

[Amazing]

As I stated prior, I used to believe this, until I understood the fundamentals of female hypergamy. For far too many men it's a comfortable fiction to think that attractive, self-conscious, "level headed" women really have the presence and forethought to 'weed out' what we men would rationally think would be the best fit for them. However, observably and predictably, their behaviors and choices don't bear this out. On the contrary, their behaviors prove the validity of female hypergamy even in the personalities of what we'd consider the most virtuous women. Even the bright, intelligent, good-girl selects for, and sexually prepares herself for, the most immediately accessible Alpha male her attractiveness will demand.

In the slutiness vs. virtue debate there will always be a schism for guys. We think of these terms in absolute measures; who'd want to marry a slut, right? But, who'd want to marry a sex-averse prude either? So we look for a balance between the two, while still maintaining this presence of expecting "quality" in a woman as a reflection on ourselves. Slut is as slut does, this is why I say all men want a slut, they just want her to be HIS loyal, skilled, hot and exclusively accessible slut.

Let me see if I am understanding you correctly:

woman will go for the best available, and that's it? She won't work to look for more?

I think slut is a wrong word, "sexually open" is better. But yeah, a good woman who is also sexually open is a great combo, what's new?

 

[5string]

Let me see if I am understanding you correctly:

woman will go for the best available, and that's it? She won't work to look for more?

I think slut is a wrong word, "sexually open" is better. But yeah, a good woman who is also sexually open is a great combo, what's new?

Amazing is right.

How many of you guys have been enamored by a woman who slept with you the first night? I did, and I married her eventually. I don't consider her a slvt. Sexually open? You bet. Anything wrong with that barring male insecurity? Nope.

You know what this all boils down to? This:

Men are predisposed due to social conditioning to want the good girl who has not slept around and explored her feminity and sexuality while at the same time, is a freak in bed just for you, and you alone.

Good luck finding one of those.

 

[Amazing]

Amazing is right.

How many of you guys have been enamored by a woman who slept with you the first night? I did, and I married her eventually. I don't consider her a slvt. Sexually open? You bet. Anything wrong with that barring male insecurity? Nope.

You know what this all boils down to? This:

Men are predisposed due to social conditioning to want the good girl who has not slept around and explored her feminity and sexuality while at the same time, is a freak in bed just for you, and you alone.

Good luck finding one of those.

Here is a lifehack my buddy is doing:

find a good girl virgin, take her, and then NEVER tell her what's the craziest sexual thing you've done before her.


In fact, I'd go further and say "I will only tell you when you do it"

 

[vatoloco]

Here is a lifehack my buddy is doing:

find a good girl virgin, take her, and then NEVER tell her what's the craziest sexual thing you've done before her.


In fact, I'd go further and say "I will only tell you when you do it"

Haha! True. QFT +rep

 

[zekko]

this is why I say all men want a slut, they just want her to be HIS loyal, skilled, hot and exclusively accessible slut.

Well yeah, sure, why not?

The problem I have with the above statement is that there is such an ambiguous definition of "slut".

The saying above could mean many different things dependent upon each man's definition of what a slut is.

Is a slut a girl that likes having sex?
Is a slut the same girl that likes having sex yet does not sleep around?
Is a slut just any hot woman who will sleep with you exclusively but still has a hideous past of fvcking the army?
Is a slut a woman who chases her mating preference of hypergamy perfectly to the defintion and sleeps with any and all alphas she encounters through-out her life?

Slut is too broad of a word to be used in sayings like the above.

That's a good point too. Just because a girl is down for anything with the guy of her choosing, that doesn't make her a slut.

Of course you don't want a girl that has fvcked a brigade, but if she's experimented a little and gotten some experience, I don't think most guys are going to hold that against her. I don't see too many demands around here from guys saying they absolutely have to have a virgin.

 

[Solomon]

Amazing is right.

How many of you guys have been enamored by a woman who slept with you the first night? I did, and I married her eventually. I don't consider her a slvt. Sexually open? You bet. Anything wrong with that barring male insecurity? Nope.

You know what this all boils down to? This:

Men are predisposed due to social conditioning to want the good girl who has not slept around and explored her feminity and sexuality while at the same time, is a freak in bed just for you, and you alone.

Good luck finding one of those.

lol I chuckled at this comment

but its true what string says, we want a freak, but just for us.

 

[KarmaSutra]

Everytime you brag to your buddies that "this girl sucked my d!ck better than anyone before her!", think about how she got to that point.

She didn't learn it from reading goddamned Twilight books.

Just like I didn't get to hold the World's Heavyweight championship belt for cunnilingus.

I won it eating pvssy better than a bull-dyke. Not watching Peter North do it.

...wait, he's gay.

Damn.