Bumble is going down the drain...

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? I actually met my girlfriend from daygame so I really do value what pua gave me - never understood those who mocked others genuinely working hard to increase their options
The guy literally runs after women on an escalator at the mall and is just being a nuisance. Imagine him running after YOU and pestering you to give him money. You find that commendable? :rolleyes:
 

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The guy literally runs after women on an escalator at the mall and is just being a nuisance. Imagine him running after YOU and pestering you to give him money. You find that commendable? :rolleyes:
compared to people circle jerking and hiding behind dating apps yeah.

I met my current girlfriend from cold approach and dated several women off daygame approaching while they were on public transport,while they were working, in malls etc . Opportunities are everywhere

better to be proactive about your problems then to circle jerk red pill nonsense on pua forums if the value is there and the approach is articulate then success will eventually ensue. Of course there is a huge failure curve and 95-98percent of my approaches have ended up in “failure” so to speak but the humiliations are definitely worth it when the success comes through .

and one person’s creepy approach is another person’s brave opener . It’s subjective and varies from women to women . One women might think you’re a creep the other might think you’re super confident by doing the same
Exact thing . There is so much variance and different interpretations from different situations it’s impossible to come to a unilateral conclusion over what is “creepy” and what is “brave”
 

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The guy literally runs after women on an escalator at the mall and is just being a nuisance. Imagine him running after YOU and pestering you to give him money. You find that commendable? :rolleyes:
I met many day gamers in London who saw yad as an inspiration and as a result of his basic opening advice got laid off it - yes he has obvious flaws often times il-calibrated and poorly dressed but so do the majority of Puas. Simple pickup did a lot of Illcalibrated nonsense but they motivated a lot of men including myself to just put Effort in and be consistent in improving social skills.

yes I saw some people being a “nuisance” in malls - I’ve approached and got laid in malls of course the majority of times I get blown out but really even the best system with the best value is a numbers game at heart
 

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When I started Bumble in the summer, I didn't get any likes/matches despite using the same photos as I was using on Hinge and Tinder where I was getting thousands of likes/matches. I don't know what that was about.
 

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When I started Bumble in the summer, I didn't get any likes/matches despite using the same photos as I was using on Hinge and Tinder where I was getting thousands of likes/matches. I don't know what that was about.
On Tinder/Hinge, you pursued them. On Bumble they have to pursue you.
Not getting any likes on Bumble means that you cannot rely on your appearance to get women interested, not even the superficial dating app bimbos.
 

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On Tinder/Hinge, you pursued them. On Bumble they have to pursue you.
Not getting any likes on Bumble means that you cannot rely on your appearance to get women interested, not even the superficial dating app bimbos.
I was doing well with the same photos on Bumble before that. So IDK if I'm shadow banned or what.

Also, you need to be attractive on Tinder and Hinge. They'd often send me the first message and like me first.
 

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I was doing well with the same photos on Bumble before that. So IDK if I'm shadow banned or what.
I checked out Bumble only for a few months when I was testing dating apps to get shibari models, but Bumble didn't appreciate my honesty in not seeking 'dates', so I was banned pretty quickly.

I think that if you are clearly looking for hookups, Bumble isn't the right dating app.

Also, you need to be attractive on Tinder and Hinge. They'd often send me the first message and like me first.
Yeah? And how did that work out?
 

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I checked out Bumble only for a few months when I was testing dating apps to get shibari models, but Bumble didn't appreciate my honesty in not seeking 'dates', so I was banned pretty quickly.

I think that if you are clearly looking for hookups, Bumble isn't the right dating app.
Maybe I'm running too much **** boy game and relying on the looks.

Yeah? And how did that work out?
Got two FBs out of it, several other lays and one short-term gf. I'm on a break now.
 

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OP, the game is changing in front of our eyes. It's like asking why you your land line telephone doesn’t ring anymore.

If there are a million men on OLD, and a woman " only wants 1 %" that's still a thousand men. More than she can ever see in her life.

You are becoming more and more part of the "99%" club and your results are evident.

Same reason why now suddenly there's a "cougar epidemic ". Men who are part if the 99% club see all kinds of hot women but are FORCED to take what they can get, mostly (much) older, fat, crazy ,multiple baby daddy women.

Gotta step back and watch it all implode from a distance.
 

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This summer has been my best summer using Bumble ever, is it harder you bet it is, but this is waht helped me get 9 dates in one month (June)

  • I started a new profile after being gone for nearly 2 months and used premium for the week
  • Try to meet women ASAP (1-10 days max, after 10 days it usually doesn't pan out)​
  • Eliminate TImewasters This goes in line with the previous rule. No talking on the apps for months or weeks on end. You can talk in person that's what the apps are designed for. Girls who won't give you their number, I don't bother, girls who say they wanna talk longer and get to know unmatch them. There are lot of timewasters and AW's just using the apps for a ego boost or free attention​
  • Understand the aesthetic in your city/town/state- Different places have a different aesthetic that women go for. Living in a midwest town the aesthetic tends to be guys wearing hunter gear or camouflage, Football jerseys, or Polo. I don't do that, I have my own style although I do have a picture of me with a Polo on, but my dress style is unique for the region cause I dress like a fly guy from the south (ha ha). Have your own style or have pictures of your best outfit on in high res quality​
  • Understand the seasons of Apps-This one is huge, Summer and Winter tend to be my best months, which makes sense as more women are on the apps looking for flings in the summer(June-September), and winter(Nov-Feb) is the holidays they don't wanna be lonely. Fall and Spring tend to be the worst. Understanding the ebbs and flows of apps in your city can save you a lot of time​

All in all dating apps suck and are hard, but if you have great pictures, a dope profile you should be getting at least 1 match per week, I had a buddy who was averaging 10 matches per week and he is far from Tyrone but he understands how to curate to the women that he wants. If you're not getting any apps maybe it's time to take better pictures, hit the gym or both
 

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It's like asking why you your land line telephone doesn’t ring anymore.
Good point. There's been some data around phone call volumes on cell phones decreasing. A lot of Millennials and Gen Z don't want to talk on the telephone.

Understand the seasons of Apps-This one is huge, Summer and Winter tend to be my best months, which makes sense as more women are on the apps looking for flings in the summer(June-September), and winter(Nov-Feb) is the holidays they don't wanna be lonely. Fall and Spring tend to be the worst. Understanding the ebbs and flows of apps in your city can save you a lot of time

Caleb Jones claimed in 2017 that online dating blitzes were best in January-April. He believed that there were motivated singles coming off a crappy holiday season alone in January-February and then March-April were good for getting women who had ended their cufftoing season relationships right after Valentine's Day.

He also claimed that September-October was a decent time for getting in some last minute prospects before the November-December dead zone.

Other forms of game (night, day) would have similar timelines too.
 

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Good point. There's been some data around phone call volumes on cell phones decreasing. A lot of Millennials and Gen Z don't want to talk on the telephone.




Caleb Jones claimed in 2017 that online dating blitzes were best in January-April. He believed that there were motivated singles coming off a crappy holiday season alone in January-February and then March-April were good for getting women who had ended their cufftoing season relationships right after Valentine's Day.

He also claimed that September-October was a decent time for getting in some last minute prospects before the November-December dead zone.

Other forms of game (night, day) would have similar timelines too.
As I mentioned every city/state is different but November-December have been some of my best months doing OLD especially the last couple of years. The weather gets colder, and women aren't out and about compared to summer, they get bored and start swiping. Once again every place is going to have variations of this but it's easy in those months to get dates if you have a solid profile.
 

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As I mentioned every city/state is different but November-December have been some of my best months doing OLD especially the last couple of years. The weather gets colder, and women aren't out and about compared to summer, they get bored and start swiping. Once again every place is going to have variations of this but it's easy in those months to get dates if you have a solid profile.
In my experience, 3 of the 4 primary forms of game (day, night, tech) suffer between mid-November and the end of the year. The worst time of the year to be trying to find new dates from either cold approach or swipe apps is from November 15-December 31. Women are busy with holiday obligations and family stuff. As a result, very few women prioritize meeting new men from mid-November to the end of the year. Trying to start something new with a stranger is more challenging soon after Halloween. Some women might cuff a beta from their orbits around this time.

Social circle game is somewhat viable from mid-November through the end of the year. There are private residence parties where unattached people in the same social sphere could meet and form something. It's likely the best option during what I call the dead zone for meeting new women.

Some people think the night of January 1 is when singles start to get motivated (see below). I think it's more like January 2-5.

 

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OP, the game is changing in front of our eyes. It's like asking why you your land line telephone doesn’t ring anymore.

If there are a million men on OLD, and a woman " only wants 1 %" that's still a thousand men. More than she can ever see in her life.

You are becoming more and more part of the "99%" club and your results are evident.

Same reason why now suddenly there's a "cougar epidemic ". Men who are part if the 99% club see all kinds of hot women but are FORCED to take what they can get, mostly (much) older, fat, crazy ,multiple baby daddy women.

Gotta step back and watch it all implode from a distance.
Cougar epidemic sounds like paradise to me.
 

Create self-fulfilling prophecies. Always assume the positive. Assume she likes you. Assume she wants to talk to you. Assume she wants to go out with you. When you think positive, positive things happen.

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Guess what? This has changed. Bumble has recently introduced a feature where girls don't have to start the conversation.
Suddenly, Bumble is no different from Tinder, CMB or Hinge.
I agree with you that i liked bumble more than tinder - the women had to 'reconfirm' the match by writing something. That filtered out all the girls that aren't on the app anymore and the ones that finally read my profile and decide to not like me anyway.
I don't care about girls only writing 'hi', it's tiny bit better than on tinder where they write nothing.

With me in europe it's still like that - the only new 'feature' they have is a bad one, where even before she confirms the match she automatically sends you her 'first automatic question' for you to answer - this feature sucks bad, it deletes all the good stuff i talked about before (makes me work before she gives investment), thankfully not many girls use the feature
 

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I agree with you that i liked bumble more than tinder - the women had to 'reconfirm' the match by writing something.
When I was on Bumble years ago, I noticed that most women put much effort into starting interactions. The majority of women would start with "Hi" or "Hi X first name" or send over a random gif type image. In reality, the man would do more of the conversational heavy lifting while using an in-app messaging. In good cases, the in-app messaging on Bumble would lead to an exchange where the man got the woman's phone number and then text messaging happened. This could lead to a real life first date.

Women did eventually complain that even that initiation effort was too much for them.
 

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Women did eventually complain that even that initiation effort was too much for them.
They should've moved to a more effortless app, not criticise Bumble for being too challenging.
 

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When I was on Bumble years ago, I noticed that most women put much effort into starting interactions. The majority of women would start with "Hi" or "Hi X first name" or send over a random gif type image. In reality, the man would do more of the conversational heavy lifting while using an in-app messaging. In good cases, the in-app messaging on Bumble would lead to an exchange where the man got the woman's phone number and then text messaging happened. This could lead to a real life first date.

Women did eventually complain that even that initiation effort was too much for them.
Unreal (but unsurprising I suppose) to hear that broads thought even a minimal amount of effort was too much.

Yet then they have the nerve to tell men we're drama queens if we complain about everything we have to do to initiate anywhere other than Bumble.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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