Hi, I'm new on this forum.
I'm 23 years old. I have this problem of conversing with girls long-term. I'd be fine the first 30 minutes to an hour but i notice i quickly exhaust the convo and it becomes boring. Then the girl retreats and i can't find the spark that was there anymore. I'm always trying to start a convo in a fun way. I introduce myself, say hi then try to take it from there. I rarely go out to bars/clubs since my job is quite exhausting but i do keep meeting new girls because i have different social circles. I also use instagram to dm a girl if we have seen each other before or/and share mutuals. Keep in mind i haven't dm'd anyone new since 3 months ago.
I sense that my approach is completely wrong, and i'm a beginner in game. I've had success in highschool and early semesters of university due to just being funny, having a good physique and having number of friends. It never lasted though and i know the reason why. It's because I used to be so nice it became boring. Now i've been redpilled, understood how women function and changed myself.
I know redpill works because i've stopped being so nice, started being a bit more selfish, and more teasing and women were delighted. It never lead to nowhere cause i'm facing this problem of maintaining conversation in-person and in texting. So i'd really appreciate if you guys can guide me on what topics we should talk about, how i start a convo and where i eventually lead it. Also since the girls i mostly meet are my in social circle it has the added risk of being known as the weirdo who dms girls and doesn't know how to text. So i'm a bit afraid to escalate too early.
If you guys want to recommend any books/videos i should consume feel free to. I need to polish my game.
To give you an example, i've met this girl recently from our group of friends who hang out. We talked she was fine.I added her on insta and we start talking. I admit i was a bit more aggresive, i was teasing had a difference of opinion and when i sensed we were arguing i quickly changed topics to something else. We started talking about movies and the characters she likes and the characters i like etc. but convo then seems to have fizzled out and she said goodnight and that was it. I don't know what to talk about except movies and tv shows.
i have never had this issue with my friends as we are always talking about some random thing.And i can hold a convo about any topic since i have good memory and knowledge about a wide range of topics.It impresses new guys but i know girls don't care about logical topics or whatever random fact i know.
Tl;dr I don't know game, can't keep conversation, and don't know topics to converse about with a girl. Want to polish my game, be more fun and lead an interaction in the right direction. I have knowledge in wide, very wide, range of topics. Recommend advice or resources.
I'm 23 years old. I have this problem of conversing with girls long-term. I'd be fine the first 30 minutes to an hour but i notice i quickly exhaust the convo and it becomes boring. Then the girl retreats and i can't find the spark that was there anymore. I'm always trying to start a convo in a fun way. I introduce myself, say hi then try to take it from there. I rarely go out to bars/clubs since my job is quite exhausting but i do keep meeting new girls because i have different social circles. I also use instagram to dm a girl if we have seen each other before or/and share mutuals. Keep in mind i haven't dm'd anyone new since 3 months ago.
I sense that my approach is completely wrong, and i'm a beginner in game. I've had success in highschool and early semesters of university due to just being funny, having a good physique and having number of friends. It never lasted though and i know the reason why. It's because I used to be so nice it became boring. Now i've been redpilled, understood how women function and changed myself.
I know redpill works because i've stopped being so nice, started being a bit more selfish, and more teasing and women were delighted. It never lead to nowhere cause i'm facing this problem of maintaining conversation in-person and in texting. So i'd really appreciate if you guys can guide me on what topics we should talk about, how i start a convo and where i eventually lead it. Also since the girls i mostly meet are my in social circle it has the added risk of being known as the weirdo who dms girls and doesn't know how to text. So i'm a bit afraid to escalate too early.
If you guys want to recommend any books/videos i should consume feel free to. I need to polish my game.
To give you an example, i've met this girl recently from our group of friends who hang out. We talked she was fine.I added her on insta and we start talking. I admit i was a bit more aggresive, i was teasing had a difference of opinion and when i sensed we were arguing i quickly changed topics to something else. We started talking about movies and the characters she likes and the characters i like etc. but convo then seems to have fizzled out and she said goodnight and that was it. I don't know what to talk about except movies and tv shows.
i have never had this issue with my friends as we are always talking about some random thing.And i can hold a convo about any topic since i have good memory and knowledge about a wide range of topics.It impresses new guys but i know girls don't care about logical topics or whatever random fact i know.
Tl;dr I don't know game, can't keep conversation, and don't know topics to converse about with a girl. Want to polish my game, be more fun and lead an interaction in the right direction. I have knowledge in wide, very wide, range of topics. Recommend advice or resources.