Being a DJ virgin

[MetalFortress]

John Juan, as es_mer8 said, "DJing is 99% you, 1% women" ... and there is a LOT more to the game than just sex. As for the rest of your propagandic garble, I'll pass.

Blaaaaat, I almost feel sorry for you too... almost but not quite.

Boobies guy, for now it looks like you were right, I cannot find any direct Bible quotes against sex between two unmarried partners who aren't engaged. You win the battle, although regardless, I am still staying a virgin until marriage.

 

[sAxyguy83]

I was raised to believe that it's wrong to have sex w/ someone you're not married to, and one can't just up and change their moral views. It is, believe me, something on which I've already given a lot more ground than I expected to, but there is a certain point beyond which I just can't push things. I won't try to enforce this rule on anyone else, nor will I even endorse it, aside from pointing out the admittedly minor risks involved even in protected sex. My philosophy is "if people say this is something that God really doesn't want me to do, it would probably be best not to take chances". Behave yourself as if there is an afterlife, enjoy yourself as if there isn't. They're not incompatible, and it's how I hedge my bets.

Edit: Removed something that you didn't want to see, and would probably make a lot of you jealous...

 

[dietzcoi]

The purpose of DJ ing is to get women. Period. It is also to improve yourself to GET WOMEN.

Should I train to become a football player and yet never play in a single game? "I am waiting for the Super Bowl"????

Ridiculous.

John Juan: You are my hero.

I hate(d) communism but agreed with two things:

1. Religion is bullsh1t to control the masses.

2. Everybody was forced to have a job.

Too bad we could not adopt those two tenets in the USA.

Dietzcoi.

 

[Blaaaaat]

Originally posted by sAxyguy83
I was raised to believe ...... blablabla
.... My philosophy is "if people say .... blablablaaat

Maybe it's time to use your brains and start thinking for yourself.

well, sh!t, it doesn't matter, just life your lie...

 

[Bill]

Re: 'DJ virgin' = AFC

Originally posted by John Juan
This is where you are totally wrong. If DJ doesn't imply fvcking ANY woman, what does it imply to fvck? Hump the wall? Chasing after fido? Are you trying to say that it doesn't even imply fvcking "the one" that you wait seven years to fvck!? Does it imply wearing a chastity belt? I guess its also immoral in your book to go chasing after multiple girls at once? How is that DJesque?

Implied in the term DJ is the idea that there are SEXUAL GOALS in mind with what you are practicing. DJ implies that you are a MAN who desires sex, AND <right now, or eventually> succeeds in having it with attractive women. Many of the postings are about SEXUAL TECHNIQUE, which will not be even moderately useful to you until you actually have sex!!

Call me immoral, beat me down with a bible, but I don't believe that there is a whole lot of room in the DJ discussion for those who choose against having premarital sex. This forum should certainly NOT be used as a soapbox for you to stand on to preach the virtues of your self-imposed idiocy. Maybe you guys should consider starting a separate 'group' in the DJ Discussion Forum and call it 'Abstinence Tips: Virgin DJs hold hands, sing hymns, and share inspirationals stories of how they keep it in the trousers and out of the pie while God showers them with fictional love'

To throw my two cents in, IMO, 'DJ virgin' is just a PC term to describe the absurd condition where a man is brainwashed by religion to use the bible to beat down his package when it gets too excited. He does this instead of ENJOYING WOMEN as God must surely intend, if he even exists.

This is really getting out of hand. All you 'DJ virgins' please stop mistaking this forum as a recepticle for your "Good Clean Christian Fun" experiences that don't round third base. What do you have to contribute? 'I got the numbers for 3 HB 9s last night, and can't wait to have a LTR with one of them so that one holy day we MIGHT screw!' 'DJ virgin' = AFC. Fvck that. Over and out.

-JLC

lol dude.
Ok you managed to completetly misinterpret what I wrote, so lemme explain a bit just what I meant (and in case you disagree, so be it I don't care much).
Being a DJ does NOT necessarily imply fvcking women, BUT DJs DO fvck women, just like they eat, sleep, do their groceries, etc. And about that christian crap, hahaha I ain't christian, not even close to being it... tell that sh!t to the ones who proclaim they are, but not me cuz I just ain't christian at all.
May you DJs fvck a LOT o'women (but don't feel un-DJ if you don't).
Peace guys.

 

[Howie Farkes]

Originally posted by sAxyguy83
My philosophy is "if people say this is something that God really doesn't want me to do, it would probably be best not to take chances". Behave yourself as if there is an afterlife, enjoy yourself as if there isn't. They're not incompatible, and it's how I hedge my bets.

I thought the Bible was the first and last word of God - not this "if people say this is something that God doesn't want" crap.

Adultery and Lust seem to be the relevant deadly sins right? Adultery is when married people have sex with someone with whom they are not married - quite distinct from two unmarried people having sex. Lust - well it's still quite possible to lust after your own spouse so marriage won't save you there.

I'll say it again - I have no problem with your decision to abstain from sex - but I find it pretty amusing the array of rationalistaions you've come up with to explain it. First it was a separation from the animals, then an avoidance of STDs, then a way sorting out the girls who won't cheat, and now "people say God doesn't like it so I could burn in Hell".

This is funny.

 

[sAxyguy83]

Actually, Howie, one of my biggest beefs with most religious types is that they think that the Bible is the complete and absolute truth. That's where half of the bull comes from. I keep saying, though ppl keep ignoring it, that I have pretty much abandoned Catholicism, although I still use some parts of it as a guide. I think I come under the heading of Unitarian, utilizing the best parts of different belief systems and just living under the general principle of "be nice to people".

I have a lot of problems w/ the Catholic church - many of their policies seem like utter bullsh*t to me (especially b/c some of them were instituted for financial reasons, such as priests not being allowed to marry). In general, I treat the Bible and what I've been taught as a guide. Nothing more. Most religions see God as somehow petty, restricted, and/or bloodthirsty, and I want no part of that idiocy.

 

[Blaaaaat]

But still no coherent and rational reason why you should not have sex before marriage.

 

[John Juan]

Originally posted by Blaaaaat
But still no coherent and rational reason why you should not have sex before marriage.

Amen to that!

 

[Ol'BlueEyes]

just a virgin, not for religious reasons

Getting off the religion angle for a sec....

I'm a virgin because I haven't been able to get any. Period.
It's because I have tremendous difficulty "embracing my sexuality" as Pook would put it. In fact, one could argue that I haven't done so.
As a guy with no experience, I have a daunting task. I have to learn how to touch, KINO, get a woman in a sexual mood...all while flying blind. I have no concrete sense of how a woman feels, tastes, smells (especially down 'there'). I can only go on instinct. Will it happen when it happens?
I suspect I should just go for any woman who is willing and able, to sarge all women I can. It's just tough to get started, to get off this virgin 'inertia'.

 

[Eternal]

Originally posted by dietzcoi
The purpose of DJ ing is to get women. Period. It is also to improve yourself to GET WOMEN.

Should I train to become a football player and yet never play in a single game? "I am waiting for the Super Bowl"????

Ridiculous.

John Juan: You are my hero.

I hate(d) communism but agreed with two things:

1. Religion is bullsh1t to control the masses.

2. Everybody was forced to have a job.

Too bad we could not adopt those two tenets in the USA.

Dietzcoi.

No, the purpose of doing APPROACHES is to get women. The purpose of being a Don Juan is to improve yourself in every area. Plus, if you just wanted women for sex, go and get a hooker. No, I'm not a virgin, but I think that everyone has thier own right to do whatever they want.

 

[Egyptiandude1]

Actually the bible does say not to have sex before marriage, mine is the new king james version, it says that you will refrain from committing fornification...also the ten commandments says you shall not commit adultery, which is sex outside of marriage, not necessarily cheating while married, its ANY sex outside of marriage. I to want to stay a virgin till marriage, and i really dont give a rats azz what anybody here thinks of it, I do it out of religious, and, moral beleifs and no one here can challenge me on them, DJ Iron Girevik, sAxyguy83, and, Julian, If you guys want to stay virgins till marriage, all the more power to you, im heading down the same road, but please refrain from posting it here on this site because it really is irrelevant to the whole community.

for me personally tho, anything that isnt vaginal sex is safe ground for me, heh, go figuire

 

[Livingitup22]

Enough Already.....

There is most certainly a reason to wait for marriage before having sex....for some people. First of all, whether you think someone's "Christian Values" are valid or not is irrelevant. They simply ARE his values, the moral and ethical basis for how he lives his life. Does it make pure logical sense? Maybe not, but we're not machines, and we live in a free society that allows people to make decisions to maximize their happiness. If it's what he wants, and makes his life better for him to wait, then leave to him to make that choice.

Also, Abstinence IS the only 100% way to prevent STDs and Pregnency. Yes, there exist many ways to signifigantly reduce those risks. However, if one comes to a personal conclusion that a 5% chance of contacting a disease is too much, or if he is absolutely commited to marriage before attempting to raise a child, then, for him personally, going to the marriage bed a virgin to make love to his virgin wife may be his best option.

Perhaps he feels that waiting for sex is within the appropriate pacing for his particular relationship. Personally, I don't have many hard-and-fast rules for when I do what in a relationship, though I feel sex becomes a neccessity. But I go with what seems right at the time.


In All Fairness, You Virgin DJ's ARE coming off a bit self-righteous. Maybe it would be best if you said that you had personal reasons for your choices and left it at that. Sometimes less is more. Let the poor little agnostics go back to their corner and wait for the next person to make a slightest spiritual comment for them to jump all over.


This board is about men improving themselves and translating that into success with women. I'd rather not wade through posts of people taking that groundbreaking and courageous step of attacking the Catholic Church.


This is becoming a pointless thread. Moderators, please close it.

 

[( . )( . )]

Re: Enough Already.....

Originally posted by Livingitup22


This board is about men improving themselves and translating that into success with women.

Im glad you realise these "virgin" threads have no place here too.

and egyptiandude1 you are wrong "fornication" can be interpreted as any illicit (illegal) sexual activity.
God never mentions sex between unmarried couples as being illicit.

ripped from http://elroy.net/ehr/fighttheright.html#sex

good to see this thread gone from "im a virgin here me roar" (nothing to do with this place) to "now i will give off my retarded religous views" (again nothing to do with this discussion forum).

 

[sAxyguy83]

No respect, no respect...

Seriously, I have no problem with you guys going out and f**king till your d*cks fall off if that's what you want to do. I don't know why I come across as preachy or self-riteous - that implies that I'm trying to force my way of life down somebody else's throat, and I HATE people that do that. All most of us are asking for is that you respect our decisions as we respect yours. Everyone has the right to live their life as they choose. You don't have to like the way I decide to conduct myself, but you do have to realize that your way is not the only way, and that both ways have their pros and cons. We aren't criticizing the way you live your life (at least most of us aren't), and we ask you to show similar civility towards us.

 

[Egyptiandude1]

oooo nooo (.)(.), pleeeeeease explain to use brainwashed people what illegal sexual activity is and why not go ahead and explain ADULTERY while your at it, you didnt mention that in your reply

 

[( . )( . )]

Re: No respect, no respect...

Originally posted by sAxyguy83
All most of us are asking for is that you respect our decisions as we respect yours.

and all most of us are asking is can you get back to www.troubledteensintruelove.com with this bollocks, im all for clogging up these boards with inane garbage but this goes to far.

btw i respect your decisions (deep down somewhere), just doesnt have anything to do with self improvement or chicks.... how many times?

EDIT: to that guy , nah im not gonna argue religion with a 16 year olds parents views , (i dont do religion anymore) if i cared enough for it i might, just read that website its got adultery too

 

[Egyptiandude1]

heh, my parents do not influence my religious beliefs in any way, the showed me the path, and left me to walk by myself. ive strayed and went off path, but in the end, i ended up in the same humble path

you said fornification means illegal sexual behavior, just what is your defenition of that?

and as for adultery:



"10th Commandment; Verse 17 "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."

"Covet" is a word that is gradually going out of usage. One set of definitions of the word is:
To wish for enviously.
To desire inordinately or culpably ~ vi: to feel inordinate desire for what belongs to another. 3


Religious liberals believe that the original text included only the first seven words. That is because the word "house" by itself was assumed to include all of a man's possessions: his building, wife, slaves, animals, etc.

A woman, in biblical times, was considered to be the property first of her father and after marriage of her husband."



so that means that before a women is married, she is property of her father in ancient times, and it is a sin to covet what you does not belong to you, if you wanted to marry her, you would ask for her father's permission and he would see if you would be a just groom for his daughter. and the quote also doesnt distinguish between marriage and property of father preceeding marriage, and since adultery is sex with a married woman/man, that is the equivelant to belonging to her father before marriage as equal to marriage.

so there you have it, heres a link: http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10c9.htm

not so bad for a 16 year old

 

[thecraftylefty]

I hate to sound like a complete jerk here, but to those virgin guys who don't bang their girls for whatever reason take heed: if you aren't fvcking your girl someone like me will. Temptation is hard to resist and I'm very good at what I do.

"If your rap is strong it can't go wrong."

thecraftylefty

 

[DIESEL]

Originally posted by Jake Steed
There is no such thing as a "virgin by choice".

Don't kid yourself.

Jake

Only if you're a guy. I know a few hot-ass female "virgins by choice" (personally, that just strikes me as a tad uptight, but I'm sure those girls could get railed if they wanted to)