Being a 30's Male + debunking 'SMV' chart

[hardboiled85]

Every man should aspire to be confident, in shape, and have a promising career, but the reality is very few do, to begin with, and if you do, you WILL have a full spectrum of women available to you to do as you please with them. The characteristics above give you the freedom to be the alpha, to be a man who women sexually desire. I feel like you have a tainted view on providing for women; the reality is no woman will associate with you if you are not providing something. Guys who have women pining for them and who are young are providing status in the form of looks, youth, attention, and good ****.

I agree with some of what you are saying - HOWEVER, read this again -- you literally spelled out BETA BUCKS/ALPHA ****S
Men with money/resources/comfort = maybe date a little first VS Hawt Men = **** first
IF she doesn't want to fark/kiss/suck you immediately like you are Brad Pitt, then it she is manipulating you and the situation ie; strategizing, reorganizing he **** or not list, angling for resource control or what BS women think.

PLUS You're literally saying be the best you can be, gym hard, work for your sheckles, dress well, act like a clown to perfection etc etc like I said. NO, I bet there is a plethora of evidence and people that can attest to just how open and wild hypergamy is, they will **** homeless men with no reason why, they **** jobless college students due to proximity, if you have to rise and rise and rise to the top on the manosphere and reach each Bull**** AGE MILESTONE and then submit your report card to a few desperate 29 year old epiphany phase ex-hoes, yep you guessed it, you're not HIGH SMV, you are probably the same you were 10 years ago, just that one ***** makes you think you are now worth 1 million dollars.

 

[darksprezzatura]

At this stage of my life, I'm chasing some thing else as we discussed. With game, I like more challenging logistics and younger vs a goal on an empty net. New way forward. More sniper. Less banging the guns 7 nights an week like when I was a kid. Level up like @darksprezzatura which is no cake walk. Energy is finite. I can't fathom this play at 40 or 50. The great exodus is calling a lot of us.

Treating pickup as sport vs a waste of time is the way to move forward. Good going on focusing on your goals. Gives me motivation.

Safe mate

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Treating pickup as sport vs a waste of time is the way to move forward. Good going on focusing on your goals. Gives me motivation.

Safe mate

Oh I dun goofed. Decade + of pickup is the height of stupidity. It's definitely at a cost. A better choice would have been sniper approaching and focused on purpose. Particularly with the ****ery in most of the western world, I am on route plotting my escape. In bachelor mode is easy to make a exit vs playing house.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

i knw a cat who is 37 married to a 22 yr old, another cat who is 56 fvckin a 26 yr old
so they are not out of reach

 

[Mike32ct]

If women peak at say 23 and men at say 37 (give or take, without having the chart handy), then women at or close to 23 would typically be dating men at or close to 37. Like attracts like.

We know that isn’t generally the case.

“But a top 37 yo guy (in terms of LMS) could pull much younger women.”

Ok fine.

First we are suggesting that men generally peak at 37.

Then, it changes to only top men peak at 37.*

Isn’t that backpedaling?

*This creates another problem where the 23 yo women would also need to be the top looks** of their age group in order to have an apples to apples comparison.

**If we presume that female “LMS” is basically just L.

 

[hardboiled85]

i knw a cat who is 37 married to a 22 yr old, another cat who is 56 fvckin a 26 yr old
so they are not out of reach

So?, are these women hot as fark 8/10s?? people on the net act like if the age number of their women is low that just means she looks like a young Teri Hatcher or whatever.
Like dishing out '19' means QUALITY, i bet the girls are the backlog women that barely any men were attracted to, but when they got a bit more confidence and realised they had ***** power and jumped on Tinder, it slam inflated their ego and made them think they were 10's.

WE NEED PHOTO VERIFICATION along with these wild low age girls used as karma *****s for men online.

 

[TitusRamsies]

I agree with some of what you are saying - HOWEVER, read this again -- you literally spelled out BETA BUCKS/ALPHA ****S
Men with money/resources/comfort = maybe date a little first VS Hawt Men = **** first
IF she doesn't want to fark/kiss/suck you immediately like you are Brad Pitt, then it she is manipulating you and the situation ie; strategizing, reorganizing he **** or not list, angling for resource control or what BS women think.

PLUS You're literally saying be the best you can be, gym hard, work for your sheckles, dress well, act like a clown to perfection etc etc like I said. NO, I bet there is a plethora of evidence and people that can attest to just how open and wild hypergamy is, they will **** homeless men with no reason why, they **** jobless college students due to proximity, if you have to rise and rise and rise to the top on the manosphere and reach each Bull**** AGE MILESTONE and then submit your report card to a few desperate 29-year-old epiphany phase ex-hoes, yep you guessed it, you're not HIGH SMV, you are probably the same you were ten years ago, just that one ***** makes you think you are now worth 1 million dollars.

I like having a lot of money, having a nice car, nice clothes, a fantastic body, and a great career. These are all things I enjoy, and if women did not exist, I would still pursue such things. The plus side is that attractive women tend to associate with me for having these things and the character traits that allow me to have such things.

I'm 30, so my game has matured a bit. My approach to dating women is not mandatory for a kid in college or someone who doesn't have to protect their status(though it could save them a ton of trouble in the me-too era). I don't go on dates to cater to women; I require dates to assess whether said women are worthy of my presence and eventually my ****. I don't take women on elaborate steak dinners; typically, I take them to a classy bar, get to know each other, and max I spend 16$ (If I have a good time, I'll pay for their cheap drinks too). If I deem them worthy, we go to their place or mine and have consensual sex. Frequently we will have sex on 2-3 more occasions, and then I'm on to the next woman. Every once in a while, I will meet a gem that puts in more effort than average. Someone who gives more than they take, and for those women, I tend to keep them in my life until I find they are no longer helpful to me(i.e., demanding marriage, nagging, etc.).

Being alpha or beta is nuanced; to lead an "alpha" life, you must live life on your terms. The goal is never women, they are simply a byproduct, and they can/ will come and go as they please(and you filter according to your desires, **** the SMV charts if you like young women go for them and if you like grandmas and pudding go for it), BUT can only come with my permission. My presence is a present that few women are worthy of. I'm nearing middle age and have had some tragic occurrences with women, so it wasn't always simple for me. I just learned to prioritize myself, and oddly enough, I seldomly fail with this strategy.

As they say, I get older, but they all stay the same age. I don't care why a woman desires to associate or have sex with me, but I will control the role she plays in my life if I deem her worthy of playing a role at all. She can't position herself for security or beta bux if I'm not a simp who empties his wallets for her or if I'm not a guy who prioritizes her needs and wants over my own. The women in my life work for me, and if the job requirements are too much for her to handle, she can find employment elsewhere. Employees are a dime a dozen.

 

[hardboiled85]

I like having a lot of money, having a nice car, nice clothes, a fantastic body, and a great career. These are all things I enjoy, and if women did not exist

Sorry, no - i like you, but this is bull****, envision this and you know for sure you wouldn't care about your beard being trimmed and clothes ironed and color matched for the day.
The car however, the car i believe you on, the car and man are like man and dog - a man gets pleasure driving his car, as a matter of fact that is one domain where the moment is better WITHOUT a women in it, GTFO Bytch and let me drive for hours to the sound of an RB26DETT.

 

[mrskinnypantz]

So?, are these women hot as fark 8/10s?? people on the net act like if the age number of their women is low that just means she looks like a young Teri Hatcher or whatever.
Like dishing out '19' means QUALITY, i bet the girls are the backlog women that barely any men were attracted to, but when they got a bit more confidence and realised they had ***** power and jumped on Tinder, it slam inflated their ego and made them think they were 10's.

WE NEED PHOTO VERIFICATION along with these wild low age girls used as karma *****s for men online.

the 56 yr old showed me his chick, she's hot

havent seen the other cats girl.

 

[Smok1nAce]

The thread title is absolutely right.

30 is just an age, its not like your going to magically become some casanova over night.

although if a man has worked on himself in his 20s this is about the time its starts paying off.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

You keep talking like you believe in a SHTF/Teotwawki event. When I asked you this in the past, you said said no, from what I remember.

I have no clue what you are talking about? Not sure if you are paying attention to what's going on. You got world governments colluding. Some places have been on martial law or curfew. The great exodus is here . sovereignty beacons.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

So?, are these women hot as fark 8/10s?? people on the net act like if the age number of their women is low that just means she looks like a young Teri Hatcher or whatever.
Like dishing out '19' means QUALITY, i bet the girls are the backlog women that barely any men were attracted to, but when they got a bit more confidence and realised they had ***** power and jumped on Tinder, it slam inflated their ego and made them think they were 10's.

WE NEED PHOTO VERIFICATION along with these wild low age girls used as karma *****s for men online.

There should be a 24 hour period where our avi is a receipt. Would separate the men from the boys.

 

[hardboiled85]

I have no clue what you are talking about? Not sure if you are paying attention to what's going on. You got world governments colluding. Some places have been on martial law or curfew. The great exodus is here . sovereignty beacons.

Yes - the biggest proof is the question; when in the history of the world has every single ****ing country all agreed and done the exact same thing 'to stop' the flu?

 

[B80]

I agree with some of what you are saying - HOWEVER, read this again -- you literally spelled out BETA BUCKS/ALPHA ****S
Men with money/resources/comfort = maybe date a little first VS Hawt Men = **** first
IF she doesn't want to fark/kiss/suck you immediately like you are Brad Pitt, then it she is manipulating you and the situation ie; strategizing, reorganizing he **** or not list, angling for resource control or what BS women think.

PLUS You're literally saying be the best you can be, gym hard, work for your sheckles, dress well, act like a clown to perfection etc etc like I said. NO, I bet there is a plethora of evidence and people that can attest to just how open and wild hypergamy is, they will **** homeless men with no reason why, they **** jobless college students due to proximity, if you have to rise and rise and rise to the top on the manosphere and reach each Bull**** AGE MILESTONE and then submit your report card to a few desperate 29 year old epiphany phase ex-hoes, yep you guessed it, you're not HIGH SMV, you are probably the same you were 10 years ago, just that one ***** makes you think you are now worth 1 million dollars.

Not sure if the calibre of homeless man in the US is better than the UK, but theres no way any half decent girl is having sex with a homeless guy in the UK. You can tell they're homeless, gutter quality a mile off. Usually look weathered due to being outside most of the time and usually alcoholic or class A drug addicts. Plus just looks dirty, messy, unkept etc.No way charisma, charm or 'alpha' qualities will overcome that.

Any non homeless women who slept with them would need to be a complete lunatic with severe issues.

If a woman was in the mood for a bit of 'rough' she'd more likely go for some kind of manual labourer or blue collar worker.

 

[B80]

Sorry, no - i like you, but this is bull****, envision this and you know for sure you wouldn't care about your beard being trimmed and clothes ironed and color matched for the day.
The car however, the car i believe you on, the car and man are like man and dog - a man gets pleasure driving his car, as a matter of fact that is one domain where the moment is better WITHOUT a women in it, GTFO Bytch and let me drive for hours to the sound of an RB26DETT.

Yeah I'm a car guy and defo get attention in it. But yes, most women don;t appreciate performance, sound of a decent car being pushed hard. In fact they usually sh1t themselves and tell you to slow down if you push it even semi hard. More about image for them. M3 F80 here Amusing one a couple of months ago was when a woman said 'its diesel I presume' lol.

But yes like yourself, can get in it for quick trip to shops and end up driving around randomly for a couple of hours. Never gets boring, great fun. Bit more subdued during English winters though. Can't push it as hard when roads constantly damp or cold with 450bhp going through rear wheels.

Notice you're in Oz. Saw some videos a while back that indicated its difficult to get away with speeding, its being really clamped down on. Mobile speed vans around in UK so have to be careful, but heard Australia is another level?

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Yes - the biggest proof is the question; when in the history of the world has every single ****ing country all agreed and done the exact same thing 'to stop' the flu?

It's absolutely insanity. UK is heavily feminist. Most in pickup go abroad because of the lack of quality and what quality is present is typically foreign. My wheel house. 8f you asked me before the ****ery I was annoyed with the high taxes and rubbish feminism. Don't get me started on obesity. Women here can out drink Dad. Can't cook like mom. Hell most can't turn on a stove let alone actually cook.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I'm just trying to be on the same page as you when reading your posts. I'm trying to figure out if when you say, "enjoy the decline" you mean literally as in societal collapse, or figuratively.

I thought you were in reference to geo maxing.

If you asked me before the world has gone full retard, I would have given a different answer. After the erosion of freedom and sovereignty, just go is the next best thing. Pursue individual sovereignty and enjoy the decline abroad.

Not you or I will fix the culture. Most of the western world is feminist, modern women, and ran through. Most men want you play house but they cannot find a worthy dance partner. At best a man can play catch and release.

This insanity over the past few years has prioritized what is most important. If anything is evident, values and beliefs on individual sovereignty and freedoms differ significantly in many countries. You don't have to tolerate it. I read nomad capitalists book. He spoke about women abroad and how much better it is elsewhere. Go where treated best.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Ok 1) alpha and beta is a spectrum and every guy is somewhere on the scale between the two. Don’t let a basement philosopher tell u otherwise: women lust over the complete package. 50 shades of grey is about a billionaire and is the highest selling sex novel ever. Money and resourcefulness are key masculine traits.

A high smv, high self esteem woman will always want both in a man - even if you can’t see it - the ‘pure alpha’ has shown her some beta traits such as ambition, maybe a little chasing at the start, wearing designer clothes etc high smv women care about ‘beta’ traits just as much as ‘alpha’ - maybe even more because these women can actually secure the highest value men in society. A ‘6/10’ girl may care appear to less about money but that’s because she isn’t being chased by the big confident ballers. Why do u think the hottest women in the world relocate to places like st tropes, dubai, miami, New York, Vegas, london etc and in those cities they are found in the most allfluent regions/streets. people wanna sell u this idea of being a pure alpha so they can sell u a book instead of telling u to get your money up

2) men’s smv is highest in 30s and early 40s: the biggest male sex symbols are at that age. The men that women study and dream over. Michael b jordan; leo Dicaprio, Drake, David beckham, rami malek, Lewis hamilton, Future etc often women tell younger handsome men ‘I can’t wait to see you at 35’…it’s just about the masculine archetype…even at your local club the biggest promoters and DJ’s are in their 30s….
yeah justin Beiber has a lot of groupies but if you took away the fame; he would be more attractive at 35 than 23…
You see this only applies if you’ve improved your status and maintained your health/appearance over time…which only 30% of men do…most 25 year old guys have barely any sexual or life experience and girls know it. If she goes on just ONE date with a complete package 37 year old she’ll never look at a 25 year old guy the same. As I approach 30 I’m getting more girls now and hotter girls than ever before.
Attractive succesful guys in their 30s don’t even need game - hot women are naturally submissive around them. only young 20 years need that ****

 

[hardboiled85]

If she goes on just ONE date with a complete package (BETA BUCKS PROVIDER) 37 year old she’ll never look at a 25 year old (ILL JUST **** HIM BUT NOTHING MORE) guy the same. As I approach 30 I’m getting more girls now and hotter girls than ever before.
Attractive succesful guys in their 30s don’t even need game - hot women are naturally submissive around them. only young 20 years need that ****

Sorry, your post is cope -- Naming Leonardo as an example is getting old - NO ONE IN THE MANOSPHERE WILL BE AN A LIST CELEBRITY WITH 1 MILLION DOLLARS.
A hot young girl can however start an OnlyFans, get flown over the Saudi Arabia by a rich 20 year old baron and get a train run.. but yes, keep working hard for those sheckles and by 35 you'll get some used pre wall girl interested.
This used to be called the RED PILL because we DROP THE BULLCRAP and tell it like it is but more and more we are slipping back into blue pill fantasy land.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

Sorry, your post is cope -- Naming Leonardo as an example is getting old - NO ONE IN THE MANOSPHERE WILL BE AN A LIST CELEBRITY WITH 1 MILLION DOLLARS.
A hot young girl can however start an OnlyFans, get flown over the Saudi Arabia by a rich 20 year old baron and get a train run.. but yes, keep working hard for those sheckles and by 35 you'll get some used pre wall girl interested.
This used to be called the RED PILL because we DROP THE BULLCRAP and tell it like it is but more and more we are slipping back into blue pill fantasy land.

lol the you’re the one living in fantasy world - only a very small minority of 20 years are getting flown to Saudi to have trains ran on them
Like I said, just turned 30 and definitely getting way better results now than at 25. Could barely dress or speak at that age. My diet is also better now which means I’m in better shape and I’m financially stable enough to do cool sh*t every weekend…which I can post on my ig or talk about on dates and raise interest
By 35 I should have a better place, look pretty much the same as I do now (take care of myself well), a wider social network, better car and more experience/game etc so I can’t see my results getting worse