Balling a married woman

[CharmaLeo]

Bump!

Maybe it is just me but... I can easily identify with Francisco d'Anconia. I had and still do see married women and to tell you the truth I see everybody happy. She is happy to see me (occasionally and sorry, even more than once a week sometimes).

The thing is to qualify her. If she is an attention hor then I don't even get close because she Wants her husband to find out.

If she is truly trapped in a ƒÜ©k'd up™ marriage, and she is discreet then I'll tap the a55.

Anyways the husband is happy because she is not on his case all the time.

And I am of course happy. Maybe it is just me but a marriage is not an obstacle and what counts is whether she is happy or not. Afterall a marriage is only a piece of paper.

Forget that she should be divorced first. That is her call and not mine. Sometimes they are sexually frustrated and just want a thrill too.

And of course she is forbidden fruit too, and if she is ƒÜ©kable I'll do her.

Forget about whether I would like the same happening to me and other BS. Maybe it is just me but I don't feel guilty and I feel I am well beyond all that crap.

By the way I have my share of sigle women too. But like I said marriage is only a piece of paper.

If she truly loves her husband she will be immune to your charms. Otherwise keep your eyes and ears open there's a whole lot of them out there.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

THANK YOU! Finally someone that understands my point of view.

BTW, my 'married miss' is doing well. She's separating from her husband but let me reiterate; WE ARE NOT DATING NOR WILL WE DATE (COMMIT) TO ONE ANOTHER WHEN HER DIVORCE IS FINAL! She knows and accepts this. She just wants to stay friends with benefits and that's alright with me (at least until I come across someone I'd want to commit to).

 

[SamePendo]

Originally posted by Big Pappy

Every girl will f*ck. She may not f*ck me, she may not f*ck you, but she will f*ck.

All women have problems. Mental especially. Single women will also get you in trouble if you "bang" them. Psycho women do not equal unfaithful women.

Also, married women dont equal psycho husbands. Many know about their wife's fling, and do nothing, instead, treat their wife's lover better.

I read something by these words yesterday:

Don't judge an person as a group, judge them as individuals.


Every group of women (married included) are different as individuals and take different strategies to ______(goal).

 

[Attractor]

Hey Francisco,

I have read all the opinions on this topic and definitely your opinion matches exactly my opinion. Talking about relationships, dating, etc. with married women sounds stupid to me. I am seeing a married woman and I see her no more than once or twice a month approx(she lives in a different city). I have told her to try not to talk with me about love, relationships, etc. She knows I am seeing other girls and it is okay with her. She also knows, that if she gets into divorce with her husband, I will not change my attitude towards her and it is okay with her. I have learned a lot about family life in principle and what mistakes her husband has made so far (he has even beaten her) and after trying to "get in her shoes" I see that she has the right to see someone different after her 9-years marriage (and she is only 29 - I agree with her, that her life is not over and that her husband should not be the last man she ****s in her life).

Anyway, I got into too many boring details, but my main idea was, that I agree 100% with what you have said. After all, all the people, who think that seeing married women is a bad thing should not do it and "labeling" a woman as belonging to a certain man is THE WORST mistake for me. She is a different individual after all. There is no MY and YOUR woman. There is an INTERESTED and DISINTERESTED woman. I don't know who have said it (probably Bismark), but this is really true, I think:

"You don't own a woman. You only borrow her each night".

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Attractor
Anyway, I got into too many boring details, but my main idea was, that I agree 100% with what you have said. After all, all the people, who think that seeing married women is a bad thing should not do it and "labeling" a woman as belonging to a certain man is THE WORST mistake for me. She is a different individual after all. There is no MY and YOUR woman. There is an INTERESTED and DISINTERESTED woman. I don't know who have said it (probably Bismark), but this is really true, I think:

"You don't own a woman. You only borrow her each night".

I read this section three times and I found what really resonated with me.

"After all, all the people, who think that seeing married women is a bad thing should not do it and "labeling" a woman as belonging to a certain man is THE WORST mistake for me."

Not that I've done that but understanding what this means to guys that feel that their mate is "theirs." It seems to me that that feeling of "ownership" makes them feel comfortable. Heaven forbid that their mate chooses to see someone else.

They feel that it must be because someone convinced her to cheat. Every DJ knows that they can not "make" a woman do anything; at best they can inspire her to choose to do something. What these guys are afraid of is that they feel that they can not inspire their mates to stay with them as well as some other guy can inspire her to do something else.

Guys, be active in your relationships. Give your mate romance, respect and appreciation and she won't stray. It's just that simple. But it means that you have to participate in the relationship and not just sit around griping about guys that give your mate what you don't.

 

[nzalan]

When you make yourself available to women, and be the kind of guy that women choose to be with, you end up finding all kinds of married and attached women wanting you as well. I used to have a problem with this, thinking that I didn't want to help break up a relationship or marriage. But then one day I realised something. Whether I f**k them or not, they're going to f**k SOMEONE. If not me, then it'll be someone else. Who gives a flying f**k about morality, when all it does is deny yourself of pleasure, and allow someone else to get what you think you're too good for?

At the end of the day, you're not dating these women, you're f**king them! Neither of you are looking for a relationship, it's just sex.

As someone else said earlier on, too many people get oneitis, where they think that being with a woman means being in a relationship or dating her, and that it involves being exclusive.

It's stupid to think that you're 'dating' a married woman. She doesn't want a date, she wants a f**k! And if you think that not f**king her is saving her marriage and you're both better off for it, then you're simply another AFC trying to pretend you're not.

F**k the married woman while dating someone else, and don't ever hope that the married woman will leave her husband to be with you. Don't let her! She would leave you exactly the same way she left him - to go f**k another man. It becomes a habit.

Get over those moralistic attitudes that only hold you back from fulfilling your potential and finding your own happiness. You might think you're happy by denying yourself that kind of pleasure, but while you're sitting there jacking off to magazines, some other guy is having the kind of time that you're only fantasising about.

Do yourself a favour. Be available. To any woman that wants you. But date only those that are available to you whenever you might want, and have a relationship only to those that are prepared to do what makes you happy.

Morality is only denial and sacrifice. Choose that if you want, but you're the only one losing out.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by nzalan
Morality is only denial and sacrifice. Choose that if you want, but you're the only one losing out.

Dude, that brought a fvckin' tear to my eye.... Beautiful....

D@mn-it, I love it when guys 'get it.'

 

[white sox bill]

Originally posted by nzalan
When you make yourself available to women, and be the kind of guy that women choose to be with, you end up finding all kinds of married and attached women wanting you as well. I used to have a problem with this, thinking that I didn't want to help break up a relationship or marriage. But then one day I realised something. Whether I f**k them or not, they're going to f**k SOMEONE. If not me, then it'll be someone else. Who gives a flying f**k about morality, when all it does is deny yourself of pleasure, and allow someone else to get what you think you're too good for?

At the end of the day, you're not dating these women, you're f**king them! Neither of you are looking for a relationship, it's just sex.

As someone else said earlier on, too many people get oneitis, where they think that being with a woman means being in a relationship or dating her, and that it involves being exclusive.

It's stupid to think that you're 'dating' a married woman. She doesn't want a date, she wants a f**k! And if you think that not f**king her is saving her marriage and you're both better off for it, then you're simply another AFC trying to pretend you're not.

F**k the married woman while dating someone else, and don't ever hope that the married woman will leave her husband to be with you. Don't let her! She would leave you exactly the same way she left him - to go f**k another man. It becomes a habit.

Get over those moralistic attitudes that only hold you back from fulfilling your potential and finding your own happiness. You might think you're happy by denying yourself that kind of pleasure, but while you're sitting there jacking off to magazines, some other guy is having the kind of time that you're only fantasising about.

Do yourself a favour. Be available. To any woman that wants you. But date only those that are available to you whenever you might want, and have a relationship only to those that are prepared to do what makes you happy.

Morality is only denial and sacrifice. Choose that if you want, but you're the only one losing out.

While I agree w/this statement, in fact, print it out and take it with you. But, on the other hand, it may be hard to read with 2 black eyes, one broken nose and a ER visit should a jeolous husband catch you. Food for thought! Just be carefull, hell hath no fury than that of a jeolous husband! Remeber, they have God on thier side

 

[nzalan]

You fight those battles you know you can win. You suss out the kind of partner they have before you get involved. You work out if they are going to be someone you can handle. My experience has been that the woman who has an affair is with a guy who's not man enough to be what she wants. One guy, finding out about me, ran away to another city with his partner, to protect her (more like to control her and run away with his own insecurities).

Only idiots get into situations they can't handle. If in doubt, walk away.

 

[nzalan]

Originally posted by white sox bill
Remeber, they have God on thier side

If God was on their side, why didn't God stop her from cheating on him? Why is God only on the man's side? Why isn't God on the woman's side? Why couldn't He be helping her find another man to please her better than her husband/partner?

God has no involvement in the consequences of our own actions. What happens to us is up to us, not God.

 

[white sox bill]

Originally posted by nzalan
If God was on their side, why didn't God stop her from cheating on him? Why is God only on the man's side? Why isn't God on the woman's side? Why couldn't He be helping her find another man to please her better than her husband/partner?

God has no involvement in the consequences of our own actions. What happens to us is up to us, not God.

It was meant tongue in cheek. Really don't like to get too religous here, but the Man in the Big Chair lets us make out own descions. We either suffer the consequences (sp?) or reap the harvest. I beleive an angry husband has every right to be that way. God is probably saying: "Go get him!" I'll even help you!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by white sox bill
While I agree w/this statement, in fact, print it out and take it with you. But, on the other hand, it may be hard to read with 2 black eyes, one broken nose and a ER visit should a jeolous husband catch you. Food for thought! Just be carefull, hell hath no fury than that of a jeolous husband! Remeber, they have God on thier side

And within there lies the most depilitating quality that most AFCs share, fear.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by nzalan
If God was on their side, why didn't God stop her from cheating on him? Why is God only on the man's side? Why isn't God on the woman's side? Why couldn't He be helping her find another man to please her better than her husband/partner?

God has no involvement in the consequences of our own actions. What happens to us is up to us, not God.

I'm loving this....

 

[white sox bill]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
And within there lies the most depilitating quality that most AFCs share, fear.

You can call it fear if you want to. I call it reality. Reality bites..

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by white sox bill
You can call it fear if you want to. I call it reality. Reality bites..

Maybe in your world. Reality is what you make of it. Choose to do nothing, what do you expect to get in return? But none the less, if your life bites, why live with it? Why not do something about it?

 

[white sox bill]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Maybe in your world. Reality is what you make of it. Choose to do nothing, what do you expect to get in return? But none the less, if your life bites, why live with it? Why not do something about it?

Francisco,
Yes I agree. I never said MY life bites, actually I'm quite blessed. Its all about self-improvement. Reality presents itself in many ways, perceived or not. I think we can all agree that Sept 11 was reality, not a perceived thing. It bit down hard!

Well over 20 yrs ago, I wasn't happy with my body. So I took up weighlifting which lead me to competive bodybuilding. Now @ 45 yrs young, I have a body that makes a 21 yr old envious. Self improvement--no pity partys allowed! Peace

 

[nzalan]

Originally posted by white sox bill
Now @ 45 yrs young, I have a body that makes a 21 yr old envious. Self improvement--no pity partys allowed! Peace

I just had to put this quote in from a comedy piece ('Euphemisms') by George Carlin:

But the one I do resist, the one I keep resisting, is when they look at an old guy and say, "Look at him Dan, he's ninety years young."

Imagine the fear of aging that reveals! To not even be able to use the word old to describe someone. To have to use an antonym. And fear of aging is natural. It's universal, isn't it? We all have that. No one wants to get old. No one wants to die. But we do.

So we bull**** ourselves. I started bull****ting myself when I got in my forties. I'd look in the mirror and say, "Well...I guess I'm getting ...older."

Older sounds a little better than old, doesn't it? Sounds like it might even last a little longer.

Bull****, I'm getting old! And it's okay. Because thanks to our fear of death in this country I won't have to die.

I'll pass away. Or I'll expire, like a magazine subscription. If it happens in the hospital they'll call it a terminal episode. The insurance company will refer to it as negative patient care outcome. And if it's the result of malpractice they'll say it was a therapeutic misadventure.

I'm telling ya, some of this language makes me want to vomit. Well, maybe not vomit ...

... makes me want to engage in an involuntary personal protein spill!

 

[white sox bill]

Gotta love the hippy dippy weatherman!

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by white sox bill
Francisco,
Yes I agree. I never said MY life bites, actually I'm quite blessed. Its all about self-improvement. Reality presents itself in many ways, perceived or not. I think we can all agree that Sept 11 was reality, not a perceived thing. It bit down hard!

Well over 20 yrs ago, I wasn't happy with my body. So I took up weighlifting which lead me to competive bodybuilding. Now @ 45 yrs young, I have a body that makes a 21 yr old envious. Self improvement--no pity partys allowed! Peace

So reality doesn't necessarily bite by default, reality is what you make of it.

 

[white sox bill]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
So reality doesn't necessarily bite by default, reality is what you make of it.

Let me go sit on my boulder and think about that one!