baggy pants on a woman

[SW15]

The earbud problem @SW15 has mentioned was way less prevalent in 2006.

I was in college from 2001-2005. In 2003 (the midpoint of this time), it would have been possible to go into the on campus gym at my university and see a small percentage of women using earbuds/headphones then. In 2003, the best looking females at my university were using earbuds/headphones with their iPods/other MP3 players. This was maybe the top 10-20% of females in looks.

By the time I moved to Dallas in the early 2010s as a late 20s guy, I was seeing the majority of women using earbuds/headphones in the gym. I was going to gyms that mainly had a post-college 20s/30s audience by then.

Earbuds/headphones haven't just ruined the gym as a pickup joint. They've ruined a lot of outdoor pickup as well. Women are now wearing earbuds on walking/hiking paths and at parks in most cities.

In cities with good pure street game, plenty of women wear earbuds/headphones.

I still have something to offer a 1972-born broad: A banana that doesn't require Viagra (a lot of men her age and older require it)

The reason that a lot of older men's penises don't work as well is because their only sexual options are unattractive looking perimenopausal and post menopausal women.

 

[GoodMan32]

Women born in 1980 are a few years older than I am. I don't pursue even slightly older women.

I can't imagine a woman born in 1980 being excited about an early 1990s born guy. There's still not that much in common there.

Having the commonality of listening to Blink 182 and Green Day isn't going to get a guy laid with an older woman.

There might be the occasion 1980-1981 born woman who might want to have sex with a 20-25 year old hot stud to to feel young again. That woman is having sex with guys born around 2000.

Once both parties are 30+, they're firmly into adulthood. I really don't get why a 33 year old man would be viewed as a leper by broads born circa 1980.

While we disagree on what percentage of broads born 1980 and earlier would disqualify me based on age (I don't think my chances are as grim as you make it sound), I totally admit many broads born 1980 and before would automatically write off a 33 year old man. All I'm saying is it doesn't make sense to me.

Here's what else doesn't make sense: A broad born in 1980 is probably more likely to go for a man born in the late 60s than a man born in the early 90s, even though you could use the same argument for the man born in the late 60s (his decade-and-change age gap with the 1980 broad means he doesn't have a whole lot in common with her)

 

[GoodMan32]

I was in college from 2001-2005. In 2003 (the midpoint of this time), it would have been possible to go into the on campus gym at my university and see a small percentage of women using earbuds/headphones then. In 2003, the best looking females at my university were using earbuds/headphones with their iPods/other MP3 players. This was maybe the top 10-20% of females in looks.

By the time I moved to Dallas in the early 2010s as a late 20s guy, I was seeing the majority of women using earbuds/headphones in the gym. I was going to gyms that mainly had a post-college 20s/30s audience by then.

Earbuds/headphones haven't just ruined the gym as a pickup joint. They've ruined a lot of outdoor pickup as well. Women are now wearing earbuds on walking/hiking paths and at parks in most cities.

In cities with good pure street game, plenty of women wear earbuds/headphones.



The reason that a lot of older men's penises don't work as well is because their only sexual options are unattractive looking perimenopausal and post menopausal women.

It really is absurd that they use earbuds even on hiking paths (as that's a safety hazard)

As for older men's bananas, Hugh Hefner was nailing Playboy models until the day he died, yet even he needed chemicals to get a boner.

And my banana had no problem getting hard for a 54 year old woman I wasn't even attracted to when I was in my early 20s.

Getting hard is easier the younger you are, and more difficult the older you are, regardless of the hotness of who you're banging.

 

[SW15]

Here's what else doesn't make sense: A broad born in 1980 is probably more likely to go for a man born in the late 60s than a man born in the early 90s, even though you could use the same argument for the man born in the late 60s (his decade-and-change age gap with the 1980 broad means he doesn't have a whole lot in common with her)

You have a somewhat valid point that it doesn't make sense if you only consider it with an understanding of the current Western world.

The last 50-100 years or so of cultural programming doesn't erase thousands of years of biological programming.

Biologically speaking, women are attracted to age and experience for provisioning. A man with experience gained through age and wisdom can keep her safe based on biology from thousands of years ago.

 

[BaronOfHair]

You have a somewhat valid point that it doesn't make sense if you only consider it with an understanding of the current Western world.

The last 50-100 years or so of cultural programming doesn't erase thousands of years of biological programming.

Biologically speaking, women are attracted to age and experience for provisioning. A man with experience gained through age and wisdom can keep her safe based on biology from thousands of years ago.

On a purely intellectual level GM recognizes that his yearning for and pursuit of women significantly older than himself is a dead end cause, same way most dope fiends recognize that they're risking HIV, each time they stick needles into their veins

Sadly, intellectually recognizing something doesn't automatically translate into adopting more productive mindsets and behaviors

 

[BaronOfHair]

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An absence of pants altogether is always preferable

 

[GoodMan32]

You have a somewhat valid point that it doesn't make sense if you only consider it with an understanding of the current Western world.

The last 50-100 years or so of cultural programming doesn't erase thousands of years of biological programming.

Biologically speaking, women are attracted to age and experience for provisioning. A man with experience gained through age and wisdom can keep her safe based on biology from thousands of years ago.

Fair enough.

I wonder why men have a much easier time erasing the older man/younger woman biological programming (I say "men have a much easier time erasing the biological programming" because several older broads have told me they get lots of attention from younger men. Yet, as you pointed out, broads largely still operate based on the biological programming that existed for millenia)

Which would suggest the cultural programming from the past 50 years has rubbed off on men a lot more than on broads.

 

[GoodMan32]

On a purely intellectual level GM recognizes that his yearning for and pursuit of women significantly older than himself is a dead end cause, same way most dope fiends recognize that they're risking HIV, each time they stick needles into their veins

Sadly, intellectually recognizing something doesn't automatically translate into adopting more productive mindsets and behaviors

As I said on a recent post, focusing on my own age and younger would probably lead to more success sexually...yet so would going gay. But I don't hear anyone telling me I should go gay. For some reason though, posters feel compelled to tell me I should go younger.

It's amazing how you're all aware it's impossible to change gender preference, yet you seem to think I can change my age preference on a whim.

*As for why I say focusing on my age and younger would probably (rather than definitely) lead to more success: Thinking back on all the broads who have acted handsy with me through the years (whether we got involved or not), older broads have generally been much handsier with me than young broads. Hell, yesterday, a woman in her 60s who works for a different company in my office building acted handsy with me.

For whatever reason, perhaps there's something about me that repels younger broads/makes older broads gravitate toward me.

 

[SW15]

several older broads have told me they get lots of attention from younger men.

Men are horny and thirsty. Men are getting thirstier and more desperate for sex in general. When men lack sufficient sex, they will consider new options, including older/much older women.

It's true that these older women you've interacted with are getting a lot of attention from younger men. They are also getting attention from older men too.

However, it is likely these women are doing things to seek attention, such as using swipe apps and dressing provocatively.

Many older women who aren't as actively seeking attention tend to notice that they get less attention as they age.

 

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baggy vs dressed up

 

[GoodMan32]

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baggy vs dressed up

I much prefer dressed up.

 

[BaronOfHair]

As I said on a recent post, focusing on my own age and younger would probably lead to more success sexually...yet so would going gay. But I don't hear anyone telling me I should go gay

You're surprised that a website frequented almost by heterosexual men isn't encouraging you to start batting for the other side?

 

[GoodMan32]

You're surprised that a website frequented almost by heterosexual men isn't encouraging you to start batting for the other side?

No, what I'm surprised at is the fact a lot of posters encourage me to change my age preference.

You rightfully accept the fact I'm incapable of changing my gender preference. All I'm asking is for you to also accept the fact I'm incapable of changing my age preference.

 

[BaronOfHair]

No, what I'm surprised at is the fact a lot of posters encourage me to change my age preference.

You rightfully accept the fact I'm incapable of changing my gender preference. All I'm asking is for you to also accept the fact I'm incapable of changing my age preference.

We accept that your age preference/fear of impregnating a chick exists, and we're not without what Bloom&Gottlieb refer to as Rational/Wise Compassion for your plight, hoss

Doesn't make your current desires any less impractical than those of the average 12 year old who dreams of making it to The NFL or The NBA. Less than 1% of students currently playing on a junior high team are fit for membership on The Golden State Warriors some day, and that same percentage of women in the age bracket you lust after are in the market for a much younger guy

The time has come to start rolling with reality, by pursuing women your own age and younger, rather than chasing a fever dream which has a dismal chance for success

 

[BaronOfHair]

Once both parties are 30+, they're firmly into adulthood. I really don't get why a 33 year old man would be viewed as a leper by broads born circa 1980

Because it's 2024, soon to be 2025. Gals born in the first of year of the prior MILLENNIUM's second to last decade have frequently birthed/sometimes even more or less raised multiple children, and have no desire to take on another child as a lover

As someone else has mentioned to you prior, you're(understandably)thinking about dating and mating the way men do I.E. Youth is not only not an obstacle but indeed desirable on a mate. This ain't how most women function though. I encourage you to Google the now-exhaustive research on this subject for yourself: Most women prefer fellas older than themselves

 

[SW15]

Most women prefer fellas older than themselves

This is true. Someone that bases an entire dating strategy on seeking out outlier to unusual cases is going to have below average to dismal dating outcomes.

Gals born in the first of year of the prior MILLENNIUM's second to last decade have frequently birthed/sometimes even more or less raised multiple children, and have no desire to take on another child as a lover

A woman born in 1980 is 44 years old right now as 2024 comes to a close.

Most women born in 1980 have birthed a child by now. The typical woman born in 1980 has at least 1 child by now, typically in Grades K-8 and some might even have a high schooler by now.

The typical USA woman born in 1980 likely has had fewer children than a 1960 born woman had in 2004. Childlessness has become more common in 1980 born women but the Millennials born in the mid to late 1980s will have more childlessness than the 1980 born women.

1980 is an interesting birth year for US women. The women born in 1980 aren't quite Millennials and they don't have as much in common with Millennials. They are at the tail end of Generation X but also don't have that much in common with the early to middle Gen X'ers either.

I'm an early Millennial and I believe that I've had a very Millennial experience in my life. I can't imagine that I would have a lot in common with a woman born in 1980, especially a woman born in 1980 who is a single mom with an elementary school/junior high school aged child.

A 44 year old woman would view a 33 year old man as somewhat of a child within the context of a romantic relationship in most cases.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I'm an early Millennial and I believe that I've had a very Millennial experience in my life. I can't imagine that I would have a lot in common with a woman born in 1980, especially a woman born in 1980 who is a single mom with an elementary school/junior high school aged child

Yeah, romances between older women and guys significantly younger generally don't pan out, for the simple fact that heterosexual women desire leadership out of men. Thus, young women are highly receptive to an older man introducing then to subjects and activities they've never engaged in prior. Older women, by contrast, become easily frustrated when they have to do this with a younger man

 

[SW15]

romances between older women and guys significantly younger generally don't pan out, for the simple fact that heterosexual women desire leadership out of men. Thus, young women are highly receptive to an older man introducing then to subjects and activities they've never engaged in prior. Older women, by contrast, become easily frustrated when they have to do this with a younger man

This is consistent with my experience.

A woman is going to feel like she can't be led by a man 10-12 years younger than she is. She would feel that she'd need to be more of a leader. It doesn't even matter if the woman is in her late 30s/early 40s and the guy is late 20s/early 30s. A 30 year old man would be more likely to be able to lead a 25 year old woman than a 40 year old woman. A 40 year old woman doesn't think that a 30 year old man is capable of leading her.

A 40 year old woman might enjoy some short term sex with a 21 year old man with a hot body but that's not going to be sustainable. The 21 year old man is going to also tire of a 40 year old woman's body, even if she has an above average body for a 40 year old. She lacks the youthful elasticity in her skin. A 40 year old woman would get tired of not getting her emotional needs met by a 21 year old, even if the 21 year old male is attractive.

A man born in the early 1980s is going to find a woman born in the early 1990s to be youthful, interesting, and fun. He's going to think she has great energy and he's probably going to like her more youthful body. A woman born in the early 1980s is going to find a man born in the early 1990s to not be on her level in most ways.

 

[Vanderdonck]

You're right, we don't like how much attention broads get (compared to how little attention we get).

So it's attention you crave.

 

[GoodMan32]

We accept that your age preference/fear of impregnating a chick exists, and we're not without what Bloom&Gottlieb refer to as Rational/Wise Compassion for your plight, hoss

Doesn't make your current desires any less impractical than those of the average 12 year old who dreams of making it to The NFL or The NBA. Less than 1% of students currently playing on a junior high team are fit for membership on The Golden State Warriors some day, and that same percentage of women in the age bracket you lust after are in the market for a much younger guy

The time has come to start rolling with reality, by pursuing women your own age and younger, rather than chasing a fever dream which has a dismal chance for success

I'm glad to hear you're compassionate.

One key difference between myself and a 12 year old who wants to be a pro athlete: Eventually I'm going to age into a demographic where menopausal/peri-menopausal broads won't automatically disqualify me on account of age. The 12 year old wannabe pro athlete, on the other hand, will (in the vast majority of cases) never become a pro athlete.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again while expecting different results. I already know I have a track record of turning down sex with a naked fertile woman (right there in bed with me). Why focus on young broads when I know there's a high chance I'm going to chicken out once they offer me sex?