Attacking what we cant understand must stop

[PlayerinTraining]

Originally posted by iqqi
who is THEM? and maybe you are taking it a little too seriously. a lot of people make blanket statements, but the thing is they don't really believe it, and it is usually funny, because it is somewhat true at first appearance, but not completely.

This response is revealing.

I work with these women. I get to see their body language, their tone of voice, the context of the discussion, etc. The discussion I'm refering to was between these 2. I just happened to be in the room, minding my own business.

Based on these factors, seen in a number of instances, I interpret their statements as accurately reflecting their beliefs.

But, iqqi IMMEDIATELY jumps to the conclusion that I'm wrong, and that the really don't believe what they say.

No matter what evidence I present, she will ALWAYS side with the women.

Why that surprises me, I'm not sure. But it does.

 

[CLOONEY]

Man there is nothing worse than when a chick does this. Turns things around all the time, and 100% of them do it. However, if she really loves you and wants to make the relationship work, she will admit her wrongs, although some girls simply cant do it, its not in their mindset.

 

[Hannibal]

man: has a penis
woman: has a vagina

if there were more than that this conversation wouldnt exist, theres comparisons and contrasts for everything, when you start saying something is better than another (except for sex vs. enemas) then you are only making it up as you go along, I really couldn't care less how a woman acts, thats her business; not mine, when I find the right girl, then I MIGHT care when im 32 and deciding who gets custody of the cats, until then im gonna enjoy myself and if they try and interupt it... then i'm sure theres a better person out there

my two cents, no offence to anyone intended

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by PlayerinTraining
The discussion I'm refering to was between these 2....But, iqqi IMMEDIATELY jumps to the conclusion that I'm wrong, and that they really don't believe what they say. .

oh my god, why can't you read!?

i said, and i'll quote

a lot of people make blanket statements, but the thing is they don't really believe it, and it is usually funny, because it is somewhat true at first appearance, but not completely.

did you get that? i said A LOT OF PEOPLE, not those two chics specifically. those two chics specifically would fall under

and you will leave ones like that behind and find ones less superficial and confused.

good grief. do not confuse two individuals for everyone, or even A LOT OF PEOPLE.

it's like when you are in a locker room full of guys, they would probaly offend any sensitive chic eavesdropping. that sounds like what happened in your case, you being the sensitive chic eavesdropping.

 

[nothing@nothing.com]

Originally posted by iqqi
oh my god, why can't you read!?

i said, and i'll quote

did you get that? i said A LOT OF PEOPLE, not those two chics specifically. those two chics specifically would fall under

good grief. do not confuse two individuals for everyone, or even A LOT OF PEOPLE.

it's like when you are in a locker room full of guys, they would probaly offend any sensitive chic eavesdropping. that sounds like what happened in your case, you being the sensitive chic eavesdropping.

That is an excellent point. So when you hear your local HB spout some rubbish like: "I too protect! I too provide! I too nurture!" Be sure you know where the remote is.

 

[iqqi]

Originally posted by Poök
That is an excellent point. So when you hear your local HB spout some rubbish like: "I too protect! I too provide! I too nurture!" Be sure you know where the remote is.

hahahahaha, it is like pook's evil twin!

well fcuk you, evil poök, because pook would never, never say such things to the great iqqimus!

<hisssssssssssssssss>

 

[nothing@nothing.com]

Well, my Evil Pook is always right... Evil Pook, I like that name, I'm gonna handle it!

 

[princelydeeds]

PlayerinTraining, look how these attention wh0res have got you all side tracked. Its like a divide and conquer thing. I decided to ignore these broads a long time ago. They truly have nothing to offer.

Iqqi comes up with a new crazy/psycho/emotionally unavailable/or attached to another woman guy every week. She is the personification of the silly Americanized woman we discuss on this board constantly. I wish everyone would just ignore her. She has nothing to offer but her stupid "Not all Women," responses (which don't even apply directly to her, because she is the 'Not all Women' we refer to).

My father always told me "when you argue with a fool, you are the fool." Don't argue with these broads you know the truth let the truth be your victory.

 

[On_the_Top]

Re: Re: Re: The truth is often a bitter pill to swallow...

Originally posted by THA REALNESS
Yes cuz your here to get your plumber's liscence ,right?

Trying to lay some pipe I see..... or might want to uh lol, get his pipes cleaned.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

y r u even responding to this icky ho - she embodies and represents all that this site has been created to counter - the masculine wh@re - dismiss such fancy notions of intelligently communicating with such a viper - put her ass in exile and rid yourself of reading such meaningless diatribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

to iqqi the ho - pride cometh b 4 destruction and a haughty spirit b 4 a fall!!

u r going down if u continue your arrogantly wh@reish ways!!!!

 

[Kineti[C]harm]

You obviously haven't been to scandinavia =)

 

[PlayerinTraining]

Originally posted by princelydeeds
PlayerinTraining, look how these attention wh0res have got you all side tracked. Its like a divide and conquer thing. I decided to ignore these broads a long time ago. They truly have nothing to offer.

Iqqi comes up with a new crazy/psycho/emotionally unavailable/or attached to another woman guy every week. She is the personification of the silly Americanized woman we discuss on this board constantly. I wish everyone would just ignore her. She has nothing to offer but her stupid "Not all Women," responses (which don't even apply directly to her, because she is the 'Not all Women' we refer to).

My father always told me "when you argue with a fool, you are the fool." Don't argue with these broads you know the truth let the truth be your victory.

Hey princelydeeds,

I know what you're saying. I wouldn't even consider arguing with a chick about this stuff in real life.

I just think it's funny how the iqqi types on this site get all upset when someone points out the obvious double standards women hold men to.

It is even funnier how they try to justify them, because their behavior during the argument ends up supporting the general statement they take issue with. They are in obvious contradiction of themselves.

If you say "Women, in general, run from responsibility", they will justify it and say "Well, it's OK, because MEN run from responsibility."

Even if that statement were true (which it isn't, as I pointed out NUMEROUS times), that STILL doesn't justify female irresponsibility. In essence, their response CONFIRMS the general observation.

They raise questions about a guy's desirability, manhood, or "mental health" if he fails to accept female expectations of him.

In a woman's mind, any man who fails to satisfy her "isn't a real man", or any man who even questions his need to meet her unreasonable expectations is "unhealthy", bla bla bla.

Yet, any man who TRIES to satisfy her, isn't a real man either--he is a weak chump who deserves to be exploited.

The contradictions are endless.

 

[iqqi]

look lost men,

1. i never said anything about "all men in general" because i do not believe any such thing. if i did i too would be able to combine every single thing any man has said and point out contradictions because of course they are going to say different things. they are different people.

2. as for the contradictions, it is funny when you quote something i personally said, and then say i contradict myself with something another woman said. hilarious.

3. it is obvious why you are all so jaded, i can tell the women you attract. any independent, intelligent, self respecting woman would not stick around to hear what comes out of your mouth.

4. as long as you are mad at something you can not control (nor are forced to!) you will stay mad, because you will never get to the real issue at hand. (which lies within).

Originally posted by PlayerinTrainingI just think it's funny how the iqqi types on this site get all upset

i ain't mad atcha

 

[princelydeeds]

Originally posted by iqqi

3. it is obvious why you are all so jaded, i can tell the women you attract. any independent, intelligent, self respecting woman would not stick around to hear what comes out of your mouth.

How right you are, I don't have an "independent, intelligent, self respecting woman," but I am still waiting. I guess she is hiding with the Easter bunny, Santa Claus, and the tooth fairy. One day I hope to find them all and be happy.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

"any independent, intelligent, self respecting woman would not stick around to hear what comes out of your mouth."

i met intelligent women b 4 and those who say they r independent (meaning i dont need a man - mainly lesbians and hos that no men want anyway)

but self-respecting woman -- nah, never met one of those - do they exist?

 

[PlayerinTraining]

I expect this lesson in logic to be wasted, but...l

Originally posted by iqqi
i never said anything about "all men in general" because i do not believe any such thing. if i did i too would be able to combine every single thing any man has said and point out contradictions because of course they are going to say different things. they are different people.

Iqqi,

You are basically saying "People are individuals. We cannot make any useful generalizations based on knowing what group they belong to."

The problem is that we do it every day, successfully.

When people are classified in a group, it means they share certain crucial features. Example, in order to be classified as a "professional football player" you need to be a member of an NFL team.

Are you really trying to say that if I tell you a man is a professional football player, you won't be able to figure out ANYTHING ELSE about him?

I would think you would be smarter than that.

Of course, if I gave you 100 players, you might make incorrect assumptions about a few of them. But 98 out of 100 times you will be correct.

Clearly, different people have different points of view. Yet, it seems that people DO organize themselves into groups. And it is also clear that you can very often figure out what else that person believes based on knowing what group that person belongs to.

Advertisers, public relations, TV producers, etc. use this knowledge to target a message to specific segments of the population in order to sell products and make money.

Look at advertisments, TV shows, news programs, etc., especially those targeted to women, and you will see what those who ARE PAID TO KNOW, believe motivates and appeals to that group.

What I'm saying is--knowing that someone is a woman, born and raised in the USA, 95 out of 100 times, you will be correct if you assume these things about her.

What women BELIEVE about themselves isn't necessarily TRUE

3. it is obvious why you are all so jaded, i can tell the women you attract. any independent, intelligent, self respecting woman would not stick around to hear what comes out of your mouth.

These so-called "independent" women you talk about are the BIGGEST GAME PLAYERS! And if you were paying attention, I don't tell woman what I really think about them. It is a waste of time.

Usually, they get frustrated in their attempts to manipulate me, and just leave me alone to move on to another sucker. I have a low tolerance for bullshyt. I'm courteous and treat well those who reciprocate. Those types are few and far between.

An "independent, modern" woman (the image most women aspire to), views men as objects to be manipulated to get them what they want. There is no concern for a man as a human being.

If women DO NOT really believe these things, why would the following article appear in a woman's magazine? Obviously, editors thought women would find the article interesting.

http://niceguy.dearingfilm.com/StudOrDud.php

[Ironically, it appeared in JADE magazine http://www.jademagazine.com/16pr_bluejade.html]

And how could ANY RATIONAL MALE not find the article at least a bit offensive?

 

[iqqi]

Re: I expect this lesson in logic to be wasted, but...l

Originally posted by PlayerinTraining
You are basically saying "People are individuals. We cannot make any useful generalizations based on knowing what group they belong to."

you wasted all those words because you didn't read (oops)

ok, nevermind, rereading my post i realize i erased a chunk of my post.

i also meant to say that blanket statements are not necessarily bad, unless you treat them like the bible and allow them to affect the way you act, feel and think, especially regarding a whole group of people. then they are very destructive, primarily to yourself.

i am sorry i didn't realize i erased that part, you wrote all of that for nothing. my bad.

 

[PlayerinTraining]

Re: Re: I expect this lesson in logic to be wasted, but...l

Originally posted by iqqi
you wasted all those words because you didn't read (oops)

ok, nevermind, rereading my post i realize i erased a chunk of my post.

i also meant to say that blanket statements are not necessarily bad, unless you treat them like the bible and allow them to affect the way you act, feel and think, especially regarding a whole group of people. then they are very destructive, primarily to yourself.

i am sorry i didn't realize i erased that part, you wrote all of that for nothing. my bad.

I see.

You didn't even bother to read the link I posted.

You really do have no capacity to see things from a man's POV.

You immediately assume negative generalizations about women are AUTOMATICALLY incorrect.

So, as if I needed any more damning evidence that men shouldn't really care what american b!tches think,

After a bunch of bullshyt about what men need to do in order to appear attractive, this "woman" writes:

One last thing to keep in mind. If you can't take care of a woman as least as well as she can take care of herself - then she's outta your league. For real. You'll be relegated to the ever-loathed planet of "Just Friends". Unless you've got something really special going on, then we may f*ck you -even love you for a while- but we won't respect you in the long run. So guys, if you can't cook, clean, and take care of the bills, drinks and dinners as well as a girl can by herself - then why would she want a scrub like you?

http://niceguy.dearingfilm.com/StudOrDud.php

Keep in mind, this article was in a WOMAN'S MAGAZINE!!

 

[Eric Smith]

i do this whenever i fcuk up. its called owning yourself and your actions.

LOL, and how many times do you f--- up? Never I imagine.

To AMF:

A lot of what is said here can be easily confused for misogyny in today's light. However isn't that sad that we can just pick apart the average man with no shame but if we do the same to a woman, we are misogynist animals? Nobody here is hating women. They may hate their behaviors but do not hate women as a hole. I am more often annoyed by their behaviors but I still love them anyway. Its not like anyone is seriously saying "F--- WOMEN, THEY ARE ALL SLUTS!!!" Find an example from a rational poster here and I owe you a steak dinner.

The behavioral world of women is not a pretty world. It is full of deception, spin doctors, and mirroring. The behavioral world of men is basically no better either as you got your standard AFC emo crap/crop, c0ckblockers, captain save a hos, and metrosexuals.

Does ANYONE honestly believe every woman is the same?

Honestly? Yes. Check your local news stand. Notice how for the boys you got baseball card mags, BMX/Skater mags, comic books, video game mags, etc. Look at the girls side. I will bet serious dough that its the standard crop of teen girl dating magazines like Seventeen, Teen People, and so on. The programming on TV for teen girls are basically the same. The teen girl is a loudmouth who pouts every episode while pining for some secret crush or doing something ridiculous like sneaking out for a party and getting away with it. Or you got the soap operas that are so ridiculously cookie cutter that you swear they just steal plots from eachother word by word.

A lot of teen girl media is homogenized. As a result, this behavior shapes at least 95% of girls.

but it is socially acceptable for WOMEN to make such statements, but not men, regardless of how well supported they are.

Women do it because men are too afraid to retaliate. Funny but some of the guys I know who are most afraid of women are 6'3"+, muscular build, and are complete blocks of wood when it comes to dealing with women. Yes, they are afraid of 5'-5'6" 100-130 lb girls. How sad. I'm not saying to kick their ass but the power of the poon can conquer those who are not well defended against the evil ways of the woman. Yes, if we generalize about women in front of them, they get pissed.

I think its the matter of embracing your sexuality (like what Pook says) Females in the US embrace their sexuality and use it to a "T." Most men are barely able to admit they have a penis it seems. I notice the men that embrace their sexuality the best get the most women, automatic respect from women, and most guys like them too (as a friend, or so I think)

ha ha ha. it is funny that some of you act like you understand and KNOW women so well. if that was the case you wouldn't be on this site trying to figure them out. eh? eh?

Maybe now but the mass majority of us entered into here poor male saps because we submitted to female demands and got nothing but our right hands in the end. We got tired of living that life and came here to improve ourselves. Besides, if the only reason why people are here are because we don't know women so well, why are you here anyway? eh? eh?

There are a LOT of bitter little boys posting here

Why do you think a lot of people are here anyway? We tried to be nice and friendly, yes positive emotions, to the female sex. Instead of having the favor returned to us, we got completely burned like chumps. I would almost say a bitter man who has the grasp on female behavior is almost infinitely times better than the nice guy who thinks that being nice is the key to getting women. I feel sorry for those AFC fools because of the severe psychological pain they will be dealt with this lifestyle.

although some girls simply cant do it, its not in their mindset.

Its not that they can't; its that they won't do it. Think about it. If you are a 9 or a 10, you have so many men after you that you feel that you can be free to do whatever you want on your own discretion. If you want to financially drain some poor sap, you can and probably find 100+ suckers in an hour that will. If they are dating a man, she still gets this attention. She believes that the man is lucky to have her. So if there is a problem and its her fault (she knows this I imagine), she can blame it on the man. The man will probably be annoyed and confused but she can play the victim card. She can find hundreds of captain save a hos that will side with her just because she is an attractive female. She can get away with practically murder and come out clean.

Think about all the crap you get away with by being an attractive male (if you are) You are more likely to get a job, you get a better pick of the women, and people will overall treat you better. If you are unattractive, life sucks for you. Its all relative.

My father always told me "when you argue with a fool, you are the fool." Don't argue with these broads you know the truth let the truth be your victory.

Its like the quote: "Don't argue with a moron. They will only drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." The same applies to women. Hell, look at how much time we are wasting here. They will never change their mindset because they believe they are always right. They will never admit to defeat. If they do, it will be a chilly day in Hell. Yet men often admit to wrongdoing and want to change for the better.

I like these discussions.