article: America's lonely (male) hearts club: Record 63% of men in their 20s are single - almost double the number of women

[DreamAgain]

No amount of "game" or social skills can make up for bad genetics and a low position in the social hierarchy.

When left free to follow their deepest instinct, women are even more ruthless than real german nazis to grant worthiness to men.

It's not like a guy that see an ugly girl and say "naa would not bang but she is a nice girl"...we're talking about not being allowed to get on board of a safe boat while the ship is sinking.

I think there is a more subtle point, that the woman's brain is unbelievably (to us) prone to follow the herd.

The herd thinking right now is: do not settle for any guy but the best. Wait for that instagram DM from prince charming. That swipe from the guy who checks every single box. Live your life, your career, make money, independence, and wait for him to come along.

I don't think women are "hard-wired" per se to think like this. But because most women are completely incapable to be alone, to think independently, because they are so susceptible to peer pressure and social influence in particular from other women, this thought process has thus been adopted by means of a positive feedback loop.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

So, you are going to say that 63% of young men have bad genetics, poor social skills and bring no social value at all? IF you actually believe that you are completely out of your mind. There is something very wrong with the overall dating market if this many men are struggling and I don't think many of you realize how bad this is for society on a broader scale.

I didnt say nor implied any of that, I said in a clear way that certain asset CANNOT be balanced with others if missing.

It goes by itself that the majority of a group cannot be below the average of that same group unless it's women judging mens height.

I think there is a more subtle point, that the woman's brain is unbelievably (to us) prone to follow the herd.

The herd thinking right now is: do not settle for any guy but the best. Wait for that instagram DM from prince charming. That swipe from the guy who checks every single box. Live your life, your career, make money, independence, and wait for him to come along.

I don't think women are "hard-wired" per se to think like this. But because most women are completely incapable to be alone, to think independently, because they are so susceptible to peer pressure and social influence in particular from other women, this thought process has thus been adopted by means of a positive feedback loop.

Totally agree, I wrote something similar in an other thread regarding their attitude toward comforming.

lower libido 35 ? causes job and money ? Age ?

It could very well be that you don't find women your own age attractive anymore. Could you imagine getting it up for this 48 year-old? :eek: o_O 48? She looks 60ish. And they say The Wall is not a thing, smh

www.sosuave.net

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

So you quant types based on the numbers claimed, all else being equal. I a closed community system, what’s the ratio? Guy:Woman what number of women are sleeping with the same guy.

We used to say average was 1:4

 

[DreamAgain]

So you quant types based on the numbers claimed, all else being equal. I a closed community system, what’s the ratio? Guy:Woman what number of women are sleeping with the same guy.

We used to say average was 1:4

I think a lot of women in general are sleeping around less, and there is a smaller, persistent rotation of h0es that the top guys are recycling.

They are getting their dopamine fix (albeit temporary) from social media, netflix, tasty food, traveling around pointlessly, buying pointless crap. No need for a man.

 

[BadBoy89]

No amount of "game" or social skills can make up for bad genetics and a low position in the social hierarchy.

When left free to follow their deepest instinct, women are even more ruthless than real german nazis to grant worthiness to men.

Right.

Mods: you need to put a disclaimer on Sosuave

“If you are not genetically blessed, this material will not help you with hot girls 18-29, This material will help you with menopausal women, divorced women, single moms, fat women, extremely educated women and unattractive women.”

 

[Bokanovsky]

I think it levels off a little after 30 but women have always been attracted to older successful men. Been going on since the beginning of time.

Probably even more prevalent now as most men in the 18-29 age range have few goals, spend way too much time on porn and video games, can be soft and effeminate, and most are flat broke. Not attractive qualities.

Let’s use a simple example.

You’ve got a group of four: two heterosexual men and two heterosexual women (just like in real life, total numbers of males and females are comparable). One man is under 30 and one is over 30. Ditto for the women.

Now let’s define the terms “relationship” and “single” in a conventional manner. Relationship means exclusive relationship. Single means someone who is not in an exclusive relationship (being a side piece does not count).

If both women prefer men over 30, how many men and how many women are going to be single?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Getting so tired of the black pill shyte pervading every discussion.

Ya’ll should go have your own board, Reddit or something, why troll a site that has men on it that are still fighting the fight?

Jimminy Cricket.

p.s. I’m twice most of y’all’s age and I have a solid rotation of 5 women that are attractive, hwp, hot, horny and willing. I’m not 6’ tall and I’m not a millionaire. If I can pull it off you can pull it off. You might need to get your fat ass up out of the chair and actually do something but you could.

 

[corrector]

Getting so tired of the black pill shyte pervading every discussion.

Ya’ll should go have your own board, Reddit or something, why troll a site that has men on it that are still fighting the fight?

Jimminy Cricket.

Yet you are the guy that likes bumping up threads and keeping it alive. When will you stop obsessing over blackpill and stop making threads and bumping up old threads dealing with these topics?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Not sure what you’re referring to, but it doesn’t matter because you’re a genetic dead end, a surface nuisance at best.

You have no relevant experience of any sort to discuss anything past of paying for sex and jonesing after OnlyFan women.

You misquote men on the board repeatedly and assign to them opinions and actions that they’ve never exhibited or espoused.

To your credit, you’re sometimes pretty funny with your outlandish keyboard commando persona - you have been the source of myrbelly laughs for me and those I’ve shown your posts.

For that I thank you, wholeheartedly.

AN ODE TO CORRECTOR:

But seriously, I think you need an Internet detox period, you live inside your computer screen. Go for a walk! It’ll help shed some of that weight, talk to people and stop obsessing about cashiers that happened to smile at you (because they are paid to do customer service).

You’re young still, start doing 100 pushups and sit-ups a day in as few sets as you can, eat clean, take some online courses - you can get degrees completely online now. Upgrade your job instead of working in miserable minimum wage jobs, become a man of worth and you will be able to date your looksmatch.

Stop poisoning every thread you participate in with your hatred of women because of some trick of genetics. Look inward for there is the solution - not outward, where there is nothing but disappointment for you in your current iteration.

That’s what you need to do, it’s a start.

And if you don’t because of some perceived obstacle that is truly you justifying your own unwillingness to improve, then you will always be an incel.

The good news is that ANYTHING you do now is an improvement to your station in life. You’re stagnated, and your terminal condition requires you to take action.

I truly hope you can snap yourself out of it - and although your mentation leaves some real questions about your mental health, you’re well spoken and quite articulate, you can go places.

Do it.

Yet you are the guy that likes bumping up threads and keeping it alive. When will you stop obsessing over blackpill and stop making threads and bumping up old threads dealing with these topics?

 

[Ricky]

“Single” means someone who is not in an exclusive monogamous relationship. A woman who is occasionally getting railed by a “Chad” would be considered single (just like a man who occasionally has sex with hookers).

to me its obvious there are differences in how men and women answer the question. Woman are likely to consider many different things (long distance pen pals, the guy they met at summer camp, some guy she met on European vacation) as a boyfriend.

as men we only consider ourselves not single if we are living with her and having regular sex

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Just out of curiosity what was the age group?

I also attended many salsa places where there were decent looking women and it was no sausage fest however there is an other problem there.

looked like 20’s mainly. Though up to the 40’s.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

This topic has come up multiple times on this forum.

First, what's the definition of single? Is single simply not married? Is single not attached to anyone?

63% of men are claiming to be single (likely not attached to anyone) whereas 34% of women are claiming to be single. This is in the 18-29 age range.

In the 30-49 year old age range, 25% of men are single and 17% of women are single. There's an excess of single men in this age range too.

I went to a Christmas party at a church. A woman came by and said. ‘we’re passing out cookies to all the single men’ I said. ‘single means…?’. She said ‘not married’. So I took a cookie. I had a GF. So the definition seemed vague.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I think there is a more subtle point, that the woman's brain is unbelievably (to us) prone to follow the herd.

The herd thinking right now is: do not settle for any guy but the best. Wait for that instagram DM from prince charming. That swipe from the guy who checks every single box. Live your life, your career, make money, independence, and wait for him to come along.

I don't think women are "hard-wired" per se to think like this. But because most women are completely incapable to be alone, to think independently, because they are so susceptible to peer pressure and social influence in particular from other women, this thought process has thus been adopted by means of a positive feedback loop.

My GF is on SM. And is definitely a herd animal. People go to a certain restaurant. She wants to go. Recently, on SM, everyone started taking sunflower selfies out in thr Valley (which angered the sunflower farmers. as these trampled the roots). So. of course, she wanted to go.

 

[corrector]

I went to a Christmas party at a church. A woman came by and said. ‘we’re passing out cookies to all the single men’ I said. ‘single means…?’. She said ‘not married’. So I took a cookie. I had a GF. So the definition seemed vague.

Yes, but you fail to undestand that having a "gf" does not exist in Christian concept since it is considered to be living in sin to be with someone you are not married too, ful stop. When I dated a Christian lady in the far past she was very defensive in labelling it as a relationship and steered me towards proposing to her. (I asked for sex, she countered that it was inappropriate because we were not married, I countered by calling the bluff and proposing to her on the spot, which she instantly accepted.)

A "christian gf" would be strictly pleutonic but you are respectfully courting her for marriage and just have not proposed to her yet. That being said, aggressive making out was still within boundaries as well as aggressive petting. Her breast tasted like berries (mildly) and I had a partial handjob with her. So the line between pleutonic and romantic was somewhat blurred despite not being married with her. (I called off the engagement and she was gone from my life after -2012).

 

[Dr.Suave]

This was probably already said but if a Chad has a rotation of girls he is pumping, most of these girls dont consider themselves single even though Chad has not given them any excluvisity or "Girlfriend" label

 

[Reincarnated]

It wasn't mentioned in the article, but I wonder what percentage of the 63% of men are sleeping around, living the non-committed bachelor life by choice, but still getting laid at least semi-regularly. I'd guess it to be around 10% of the 63%.

 

[corrector]

It wasn't mentioned in the article, but I wonder what percentage of the 63% of men are sleeping around, living the non-committed bachelor life by choice, but still getting laid at least semi-regularly. I'd guess it to be around 10% of the 63%.

If you are going to go there then you may as well include escortcels. Even so, 90% incels out of the 63% is still staggering.

 

[MatureDJ]

I went to a Christmas party at a church. A woman came by and said. ‘we’re passing out cookies to all the single men’ I said. ‘single means…?’. She said ‘not married’. So I took a cookie. I had a GF. So the definition seemed vague.

Were the chicks at that party fat?

 

[MatureDJ]

A "christian gf" would be strictly pleutonic but you are respectfully courting her for marriage and just have not proposed to her yet. That being said, aggressive making out was still within boundaries as well as aggressive petting. Her breast tasted like berries (mildly) and I had a partial handjob with her ...

By "partial handjob", so you mean a non-ejaculatory tease?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Were the chicks at that party fat?

no. The SF Bay Area has pretty fit people.