article: America's lonely (male) hearts club: Record 63% of men in their 20s are single - almost double the number of women

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About 63 percent of 18 to 29-year-old men reported being alone in 2022, a 12 percent increase from 2019

Only 34 percent of women in the same age group reported being single, a small 2 percent rise from the pre-pandemic era
Nearly twice as many young men as women are likely to be single in 2022 - and experts are blaming the rise on the end of traditional male roles, porn and the pandemic.
Experts put the disparity down to some women dating each other - with research suggesting bisexual women make up a large share of the young-adult queer community - as well as many also dating older men.
It's OVER for 63%Cels.
 

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This topic has come up multiple times on this forum.

First, what's the definition of single? Is single simply not married? Is single not attached to anyone?

63% of men are claiming to be single (likely not attached to anyone) whereas 34% of women are claiming to be single. This is in the 18-29 age range.

In the 30-49 year old age range, 25% of men are single and 17% of women are single. There's an excess of single men in this age range too.
 

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This topic has come up multiple times on this forum.

First, what's the definition of single? Is single simply not married? Is single not attached to anyone?

63% of men are claiming to be single (likely not attached to anyone) whereas 34% of women are claiming to be single. This is in the 18-29 age range.

In the 30-49 year old age range, 25% of men are single and 17% of women are single. There's an excess of single men in this age range too.
Yeah, these statics are bogus (and mathematically impossible).
 

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I'm not part of the 63%, I'm part of the 25%. Despite that, there are more younger single women than guys in my age demographic that are single?
 

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The 63% just need to:

1. “Take a shower.”

2. “Improve their communications skills.”

3. “Just take a dance class brah.”

LOL.
Even if they did all 3, that's not going to bridge that much of the 29% gap.

In my experience, dance classes are loss leaders. The dance classes might be useful for learning a style of dance that might be useful at a certain type of place (mainly for Salsa and Country Western dancing) but the classes themselves won't result in many actual dates.

Even if a guy gets some good skills at Salsa or Country Western dancing, he's still competing with a lot of men at a nightlife venue. He would need looks + dancing skills to get some dates or one night stands from the effort.
 

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Even if they did all 3, that's not going to bridge that much of the 29% gap.

In my experience, dance classes are loss leaders. The dance classes might be useful for learning a style of dance that might be useful at a certain type of place (mainly for Salsa and Country Western dancing) but the classes themselves won't result in many actual dates.

Even if a guy gets some good skills at Salsa or Country Western dancing, he's still competing with a lot of men at a nightlife venue. He would need looks + dancing skills to get some dates or one night stands from the effort.
I know a married coworker who met her husband at a dance class. You dont know what you are talking about.
 

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No amount of "game" or social skills can make up for bad genetics and a low position in the social hierarchy.

When left free to follow their deepest instinct, women are even more ruthless than real german nazis to grant worthiness to men.

It's not like a guy that see an ugly girl and say "naa would not bang but she is a nice girl"...we're talking about not being allowed to get on board of a safe boat while the ship is sinking.
 

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They aren't mathematically impossible. It's mainly possible if a group of 'Chads' monopolize the market.
“Single” means someone who is not in an exclusive monogamous relationship. A woman who is occasionally getting railed by a “Chad” would be considered single (just like a man who occasionally has sex with hookers).
 
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A girl invited me to her salsa class earlier this year. It was held at a local bar/club. Lots of attractive women.
Just out of curiosity what was the age group?

I also attended many salsa places where there were decent looking women and it was no sausage fest however there is an other problem there.
 

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Yeah, these statics are bogus (and mathematically impossible).
It's likely woman are dating older men.

The age range was 18-29. Women in their mid 20's mostly date guys 30 - 40+ because they have their s*it together and more assets. This is the likely skew to the curve.

I've personally found the whole age gap dating thing is much more common and accepted now than even 10 years ago. I have no problem pulling women 20 years younger. Most are hookups and STRs. A few did want to LTR me but I'm not interested.
 

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It's likely woman are dating older men.

The age range was 18-29. Women in their mid 20's mostly date guys 30 - 40+ because they have their s*it together and more assets. This is the likely skew to the curve.
That would imply that women in their 30’s and 40’s are either mostly single or dating men who are in their 50’s and 60’s. And neither is the case.
 

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That would imply that women in their 30’s and 40’s are either mostly single or dating men who are in their 50’s and 60’s. And neither is the case.
I think it levels off a little after 30 but women have always been attracted to older successful men. Been going on since the beginning of time.

Probably even more prevalent now as most men in the 18-29 age range have few goals, spend way too much time on porn and video games, can be soft and effeminate, and most are flat broke. Not attractive qualities.
 

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Yeah, these statics are bogus (and mathematically impossible).
It's likely woman are dating older men.

The age range was 18-29. Women in their mid 20's mostly date guys 30 - 40+ because they have their s*it together and more assets. This is the likely skew to the curve.

I've personally found the whole age gap dating thing is much more common and accepted now than even 10 years ago. I have no problem pulling women 20 years younger. Most are hookups and STRs. A few did want to LTR me but I'm not interested.
It's also women going for men that are already with another woman. I can cite a guy I knew from a few years ago that had a LTR AND had this side piece that he'd fool around with here and there that was completely exclusive to him. I guarantee you that she would have considered herself to be in a relationship with that man if she were surveyed. Something along the lines of this is not that unusual or rare.
 

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No amount of "game" or social skills can make up for bad genetics and a low position in the social hierarchy.

When left free to follow their deepest instinct, women are even more ruthless than real german nazis to grant worthiness to men.

It's not like a guy that see an ugly girl and say "naa would not bang but she is a nice girl"...we're talking about not being allowed to get on board of a safe boat while the ship is sinking.
So, you are going to say that 63% of young men have bad genetics, poor social skills and bring no social value at all? IF you actually believe that you are completely out of your mind. There is something very wrong with the overall dating market if this many men are struggling and I don't think many of you realize how bad this is for society on a broader scale.
 

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Self reported data is rarely trustworthy.

Men would tend to be honest about relationship status.

Women not so much.
 

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It's likely woman are dating older men.
Very little of it is that. The median age difference in a relationship is about 2-3 years.

The typical 30s/40s man is a pussie beggar for women close to his own age. Men in their 20s with women 2-3 years younger makes more sense.
 

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There is something very wrong with the overall dating market if this many men are struggling and I don't think many of you realize how bad this is for society on a broader scale.
If that's resulting in less net births then there will be an inevitable population collapse and social security failure and eventual total system collapse as the government runs out of money as there are not enough working-age people to tax in order to remain functional. That could happen within the next decade or so (assuming one believes the world, as we know it, will last that long, which I personally don't).
 
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