Article about older women and sex

[iqqi]

Old man? Im also 28. I just dont despise older men for banging younger women. Ill probably do the same. As I get older, I seem to become more marketable? I also dont despise older women for wanting to sleep with younger men either. I pity them, while I envy the older man. The difference is that you don’t have younger men *****ing about the old guys. We high 5 them. Women cant stand them though. If the older men are dating the younger women, who is going to date the older fatties eh? Don’t admonish older men for being men. Admonish your sisters for creating those monsters in the first place. Everyone wants the young babe, just like everyone wants the rich stud.

You just cannot grasp a very simple concept though. Anecdotal (look it up in the same ****ing dictionary you used to explain to us all what a woman hater is) evidence, in response to a generalised statement, is a waste of everyones time. Get that into your thick skull.

Its called rational debate. Rational thinking requires generalizations to be made, because you are not discussing a specific issue, you are discussing broader ones. You cannot post your personal experiences as universal fact. This is typical of women and their logic, and its the reason why I have issues with some of their contributions on this website. Just because you know of one individual case does not refute a broader claim!

This is why your contributions are a waste of ****ing time. Most women are incapable of rational debate. How can you expect rationality from an irrational creature?

Irrational = claiming that I am "over the hill" for being 28, then saying "old man? I am also 28". It doesn't get more irrational than that!

Anyways, I am through arguing with your personal accusations that don't even make sense. THAT is a waste of time.

Generalized, POLARIZED thinking leads to ignorance and contempt. You seem to have a lot of both.

 

[ketostix]

Irrational = claiming that I am "over the hill" for being 28, then saying "old man? I am also 28". It doesn't get more irrational than that!

Most women are over the hill by 28 and most men are not. It's perfectly rational. :kick:

 

[iqqi]

Most women are over the hill by 28 and most men are not. It's perfectly rational. :kick:

I see they have sent in the monkeys again!

What a limiting and misogynist view. But I don't doubt you feel this way! So that leaves you with what? All the younger 20 somethings that as you put it, are all flaky. Damn. You just can't win!

 

[AgonyUncle]

Generalized, POLARIZED thinking leads to ignorance and contempt. You seem to have a lot of both.

Bull****. Typical liberal bull****. Its like saying black people are not really black because you get the odd albino. So because the odd albino has a skin pigmentation defect, the statement that Africans are black is flase. General statements HAVE to be made in some cases. Its basis of all discussion on broader topics.

Anecdotal personal experiences as a basis for evidence are ridiculous. How can you expect anyone with half a brain to take it seriously? The arrogance you convey in assuming your personal expereriences are the universal norm is nothing short of absurd. But obviously expected considering you think the sun shines through your arse.

Please dont try and pass off your contributions as rational. The "Iqqi Adventures" are hardly a blueprint for the reality of the general populance, and suggesting that they are is arrogant beyond belief.

Anyone who thinks that there is ignorance in a general statement,simply because a small minority does not convey the qualities associated with that statement, is a ****ing idiot. You could never have a rational discussion if generalisations were never allowed to be made.

 

[Bonhomme]

Most women are over the hill by 28 and most men are not. It's perfectly rational. :kick:

If someone's "over the hill" by 28, they've done something (like meth, crack, cigarette smoking, and/or way too many donuts) to accelerate their trip.

 

[AgonyUncle]

I see they have sent in the monkeys again!

What a limiting and misogynist view. But I don't doubt you feel this way! So that leaves you with what? All the younger 20 somethings that as you put it, are all flaky. Damn. You just can't win!

Ok, so let me get this straight. If you prefer younger, fitter women even though you are middle aged, you are a misogynist. However, if you are a 40 something ***** invloved in one night stand after one night stand with younger men, you are an independent sexually open wonder to behold.

 

[ketostix]

Ok, so let me get this straight. If you prefer younger, fitter women even though you are middle aged, you are a misogynist. However, if you are a 40 something ***** invloved in one night stand after one night stand with younger men, you are an independent sexually open wonder to behold.

That's what iqqi essentially was saying to me in so many words. Of course she'll try to deny it.

If someone's "over the hill" by 28, they've done something (like meth, crack, cigarette smoking, and/or way too many donuts) to accelerate their trip.

In the case of most women over the hill by 28 it's too many donuts . Women age faster than men, just about everyone realize that.

 

[Bonhomme]

Ok, so let me get this straight. If you prefer younger, fitter women even though you are middle aged, you are a misogynist.

That doesn't make one a misogynist. Unrealistic, perhaps (depending upon one's personal characteristics and situation), but not misogynist.

Younger men date older women because they **** easy. Its that simple. Women who are over 40 will pretty much **** anything with a pulse, and come with no strings. They are easy lays. They cost you little in time and little in effort. Its a small investment for sex.Older women have fewer options, so when a semi decent guy comes along, they jump at it. They cant compete with younger better looking women. That is where a womans real value is. In her looks.

Most good looking women are airheads (I have no doubt you consider yourself a hot piece of ass coupled with Newton level intelligence though) Its rare to meet a very good looking woman who is actually intelligent. Most get by on their looks, its just the way it is.

Those boneheaded generalizations are misogynist. Again, if just about all the older women you've known have little in the way of redeeming qualities or self-respect, it's understandable such an attitude might be the result.

 

[iqqi]

Ok, so let me get this straight. If you prefer younger, fitter women even though you are middle aged, you are a misogynist. However, if you are a 40 something ***** invloved in one night stand after one night stand with younger men, you are an independent sexually open wonder to behold.

Um, no. Is this your wonderous logic and rationality speaking here?

Because I think I broke down in a previous post what a misogynist was, to Keto.

Preferring younger women is fine. Bashing women who prefer younger men, while praising men who do the same, is misogynist and ignorant.

 

[MikeYikes122]

As for Iqqi's posts, they are directed at what people are saying. And she's just as quick to give kudos as criticism. She's given plenty of kudos to Francisco, Fingz, or any of the other guys here who actually like most women (and, funny enough, tend to do best with them).

Some of you guys are going to be in for a very rough go of it if your attitudes don't evolve by the time you appearance devolves.

I think you're right about everything you said, but you have to admit, literally every thread she gets involved in turns into something like this. I've also noticed a change in her tone over the past month or so. A lot more personal attacks, a lot of inappropriate stuff said to STR8UP, far less useful advice and less quality but far more quantity. She called jophil a bitter old man on a different thread on here earlier tonight. What the hell has that guy ever done or said to her? I know I'm one of the posters she likes (or I've gotten that impression), and I usually tend to be on her side with stuff like this, but she is even kind of starting to wear on me. Usually from the first post she makes on a thread, I can predict where it's going to go. She'll prod ketostix or STR8UP (depending on which has posted), but she'll do so in a thinly-veiled and suggestive manner. One of them will respond and tell her she's generalizing or being overly protective of women, then she'll respond and bring up something one of them has said in a past thread. Things will escalate from there and the entire thread is usually hijacked by personal attacks and rude remarks, which usually come from both sides.

What I don't understand is why both sides can't just agree to disagree. Every time I log onto this message board, I read at least three things I don't agree with. If something is way far off-base, I might post once or twice on the thread to state my case, but if the OP isn't agreeing with me, screw him. I've been in this game since I was teenager. I'm right, and it's the OP's fault if he doesn't want to listen to me.

It blows my mind how heated these iqqi-inspired discussions and arguments get on some of these threads, and that goes for all parties involved. I'm not even nearly that pursuant or willing to argue in real life. This is just a damn Internet message board, but for some reason everything is personal on here. I have no idea why STR8UP's personal life offends people so badly. If the guy wants my help, I'll try to give it to him. If he doesn't, then good luck to him.

Imagine a guy stumbles across this Web site in a Google search. He signs up and makes a post on here about a subject that is doomed for hijacking, something like, "I can't find any quality women." That guy posts his thread in the morning, runs some errands and checks his post after lunch - much like a fvcking normal person would do. But what does he come back to find? Three pages of posts consisting of two genuine responses, eight posts of side arguments/banter and about two and a half pages of personal attacks that no one should care about.

Again, no clue why everything is so personal on here. If you guys take your real lives this seriously, then you must be pretty miserable. Just ease up with each other and let your personal vendettas go. I also kind of wonder what kind of a life you're living outside of SoSuave if you're letting things on here get to you to the point that you're searching through another poster's post history to quote past posts, only to prove some ridiculous point that likely has no relevance to what is actually being discussed.

 

[iqqi]

I think you're right about everything you said, but you have to admit, literally every thread she gets involved in turns into something like this. I've also noticed a change in her tone over the past month or so. A lot more personal attacks, a lot of inappropriate stuff said to STR8UP

No, Mike, not literally every thread I contribute to turns into this. The more controversial threads that I contribute to that DO turn into this, do so because I am the target. The female. SO even when other GUYS are saying the same thing I am saying, all the focus is on ME.

As far as STR8UP goes, I think I will indeed ignore him for awhile, since he seems like a lost cause. And it is too easy... But I actually HOPE for the best for him. Until then I will let Latinoman reality check him. Now you can call HIM out! But you won't.

She called jophil a bitter old man on a different thread on here earlier tonight. What the hell has that guy ever done or said to her?

I was joking. Hence the wink. See, . That means playful banter. Even though he is a bitter old man. See! There, I winked again. I am "innocently flirting".

I know I'm one of the posters she likes (or I've gotten that impression), and I usually tend to be on her side with stuff like this, but she is even kind of starting to wear on me. Usually from the first post she makes on a thread, I can predict where it's going to go. She'll prod ketostix or STR8UP (depending on which has posted), but she'll do so in a thinly-veiled and suggestive manner.

They almost always reply to one of MY posts with some off the wall comment. And then yes, I may actually respond back! And I might even be rude back. Shocker there! To sit here and say I start all that says a lot, namely that you aren't paying attention.

One of them will respond and tell her she's generalizing or being overly protective of women, then she'll respond and bring up something one of them has said in a past thread.

I am and always have been for NOT generalizing. My MAIN point is almost always that you CANNOT generalize so widely, and so negatively. Well you can... but like I just said it leads to ignorance and contempt. A generalization sounds something like this: "ALL women" or "MOST women", and most of my statements are in contradiction to that kind of viewpoint.

I don't often bring up what someone said in a past thread, but why the hell wouldn't I, if it illustrated my point exactly? And I know I am not the only one who does that.

I also kind of wonder what kind of a life you're living outside of SoSuave if you're letting things get to you to the point that you're searching through another poster's post history to quote past posts, only to prove some ridiculous point that likely has no relevance to what is actually being discussed.

I didn't have to go far, it illustrated my point exactly, and it had everything to do with the discussion at hand. It was a direct response to the post I quoted!

Your cool, mike, but don't take it as an iqqi likes you and iqqi hates most others. I just don't disagree with a lot that you say, and I don't see you making too many negative generalizations about women.

My argument is always against misogynist, untrue generalizations. And if ppl want to jump in and start getting personal with me as a reaction, well I tend to divert most of those comments anyways.

Every once in awhile I will defend myself. Like here and now.

The real problem isn't that iqqi has an opinion or that iqqi responds to flames, it is that some men on this forum can NOT take a differing viewpoint or counter argument from a woman.

I will probably get "attacked" for the last statement. But I am not the only one saying that either.

Anyone else? This thread was retarded to start with and a repeated @ss theme lately, so I don't feel to bad if THIS is the thread where I don't let slide every personal comment against me.

 

[MikeYikes122]

I wasn't just talking to you with that post, and I'm sorry if you got that impression. It sounds like you did.

Though, I will tell you that from an outsider's perspective, the quality of your posts have dropped drastically in the past two months. You get way too caught up in dumb junk like what's gone on in this thread. I think you're going to eventually get banned like Wyldfire. I'm not saying you deserve it or that I even agree with it (I probably won't), but it's pretty easy to see where you're headed.

You have to expect to be offended by some of the stuff you read on here. If I were to go and post on a Cosmo forum, I'd be going on there knowing full well that I was going to read some stuff that I wasn't going to agree with. Yeah, there are a lot of bad generalizations made about women on here and a lot of negative attitudes toward women - none of which I agree with by the way. But you kind of have to expect that on a place like SoSuave. A lot of the posters on here have been burned countless times by women, probably dating back to high school or even middle school.

Their attitudes aren't right, but can you blame them for having them? Eventually the guys who hold those kinds of beliefs will have to learn the hard way.

 

[iqqi]

I wasn't just talking to you with that post, and I'm sorry if you got that impression. It sounds like you did.

Though, I will tell you that from an outsider's perspective, the quality of your posts have dropped drastically in the past two months. You get way too caught up in dumb junk like what's gone on in this thread. I think you're going to eventually get banned like Wyldfire. I'm not saying you deserve it or that I even agree with it (I probably won't), but it's pretty easy to see where you're headed.

You have to expect to be offended by some of the stuff you read on here. If I were to go and post on a Cosmo forum, I'd be going on there knowing full well that I was going to read some stuff that I wasn't going to agree with. Yeah, there are a lot of bad generalizations made about women on here and a lot of negative attitudes toward women - none of which I agree with by the way. But you kind of have to expect that on a place like SoSuave. A lot of the posters on here have been burned countless times by women, probably dating back to high school or even middle school.

You are right Mike. But I tend to shy away from outright warring with fools most of the time, I might make a comment or two back if a personal dart is thrown my way, then let it go. But here and there I get tired of that sh!t.

I have actually learned from Wyldfire's situation. It was obvious and wrong what happened with her, however it got to the point where she wouldn't back down ever. There is no way a single opinionated female is going to take on all of the misogynists on this board!

With that in mind, I do try and ignore personal digs that have little to do with the topic at hand.

Its a shame that the only differing viewpoint that some can't handle is due to the gender of the speaker!

And I resent your statement that most of my recent posts have dropped in quality, how so.

Some threads have turned into this vs iqqi crap, and even in those I keep on course with the thread and my original point for the most part. Besides these threads, I am still giving well recieved advice. (With the obligatory 'don't listen to her she's a girl' comments surrounding it.)

Maybe you should do a post history tour, and find a bunch of "low quality" posts versus "higher quality". I am sure you will find you are not correct in your assertation, unless of course you subscribe to the idea that my advice is wrong solely because I am a female. Then of course everything I say will be low quality.

Oh, as for all the STR8UP comments, those ARE low quality. Like I said, I will probably let him run his course for awhile, you can lead a horse to water but you can't make him swim!

(Yes, I said that wrong on purpose.)

Their attitudes aren't right, but can you blame them for having them? Eventually the guys who hold those kinds of beliefs will have to learn the hard way.

Yes, I do blame them. I am a firm believer in taking responsibility for your life, your choices, and its consequences.

 

[Last Man Standing]

Fighting with woman is the unnatural order of things!! Leave iqqi alone!! Only if a woman attacks you personally should you defend yourself!!!