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Are women nowadays less empathetic then men?

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I don’t necessarily love the gender wars and i don’t want to give anecdotal examples to prove a point, but are woman nowadays less empathetic then men?

For men, it is believed that high testosterone mutes empathy, and women tend to have historically been considering more nurturing but that may extend mostly to their children.

who do you think the more empathetic sex is?
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if women have become less empathetic over time. I think some of that has to do with society's expectations. We've basically told them its ok to act like men. And for sure men have less empathy than women. Most studies back that up as well.

Some of the least empathetic women will be found amongst career women. My last LTR was with someone lacking empathy. Ultimately when it comes to addressing serious issues, its tough to seek a compromise. There's a total lack of ability to see where the other person is coming from and as a result its impossible for them to seek middle ground thru understanding. The only thing that allowed her to seek compromise was her desire to be submissive, not empathy.
 

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I don’t necessarily love the gender wars and i don’t want to give anecdotal examples to prove a point, but are woman nowadays less empathetic then men?

For men, it is believed that high testosterone mutes empathy, and women tend to have historically been considering more nurturing but that may extend mostly to their children.

who do you think the more empathetic sex is?
Men as not empathetic is nonsense. Normal men are plenty empathetic and do plenty of protecting and rescuing and feel for those hurt and weaker than them.
 

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I don't believe women are (or have ever been) more empathetic to anyone except to their children. This is just a social construct not based in reality.
 

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presenting empathy is different than actually being empathetic. most women are very good at showing empathy, but actually being empathetic is for men. would be interesting to measure philanthropy men vs women.

its my general view that women do not respect empathy in men.
 

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Empathy as a word has a lot of positive feelgood connotations, but it really just means emotional intelligence, the ability to understand what someone else is thinking. "Street smarts" sounds different, but it is the same thing. Knowing when someone is sizing you up or trying to rip you off is still empathy. Having emotional intelligence by itself does not make someone a good person, it depends on how they use those skills.
 

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presenting empathy is different than actually being empathetic. most women are very good at showing empathy, but actually being empathetic is for men. would be interesting to measure philanthropy men vs women.

its my general view that women do not respect empathy in men.
very good points. they "show" empathy but they don't actually behave that way.

they'll protest in favor of illegal immigration but when asked to house an illegal immigrant, they won't.



also regarding empathy in men, I believe it is seen as weakness. for example if Trump doesn't destroy his enemies completely and instead offers them a second chance, I think that makes him appear weak.
 

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I think a lot of women, play into typical roles further their personal lives, which is what they’ve had to do since the dawn of time to ensure their survival as the physically inferior sex. I think that seeming to be empathetic is one of them. I don’t think when it’s viewed objectively that they’re more empathetic than men. I would say less so.

Women have no remorse taking a man for a proverbial ride, so to speak in the name of dating. A construct mind you that they invented for their need, legitimately , to project higher status so as to remain relevant to those physically more dominant . Asking a man to empty his wallet for her on a recurring basis is not empathetic. One example.

Another is on cheating. My ex wife told me yesterday she could understand why someone would cheat. I was shocked. Truly shocked. She would never have done that in our marriage and now she’s out in the world and she feels this is justifiable. Women cheat more than men, the men that laid their wallet and lives out for them. Is that empathy?

Women will do what they have to do to survive. They will stab pretty much anyone they need in the back to get ahead. Their friends will get the knife first. Their family, anyone that gets in their way. Men have a code. Men typically don’t do this.

I can go on.
 

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Men have a code.
Women do too. Girl Code says you must always assist a fellow woman in her cheating and always snitch on any man doing the same. I remember driving to Tampa to see my soon to be ex wife and going to Busch Gardens with her and a friend of hers. I was leaving and thinking, "her friend was nice, but I feel like she is hiding something."
 

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Women are less empathetic now than they traditionally have been due to societal influence. Less empathetic than men overall though? I’d say no.

The sexes show empathy in different ways. Women tend to offer outward support. Men will tend to offer helpful acts — especially to one another. So this can be difficult to judge as it is a little bit of an apples/oranges comparison. However, in the context of someone telling a sob story to a group of men and women, the women will (still) be the ones being most vocal in their support.
 

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Empathy as a word has a lot of positive feelgood connotations, but it really just means emotional intelligence, the ability to understand what someone else is thinking. "Street smarts" sounds different, but it is the same thing. Knowing when someone is sizing you up or trying to rip you off is still empathy. Having emotional intelligence by itself does not make someone a good person, it depends on how they use those skills.
Not to split hairs, but I think there is a cognitive empathy and an emotional empathy.

The former is just intellectually understanding how somebody might feel or react to some situation. This one can definitely be used for evil or good.

The latter is the ability to actual feel what the other person is feeling. This one typically is coming from a good place.
 

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Probably cause they are tired of men acting like little boys and emotional basket cases like women.

There are a LOT of women that get forced to act like the men in relationships where their boyfriends are constantly complaining, causing drama and crying.

It's pathetic but the low T epidemic combined with men having extreme levels of estrogen in many cases isn't going to change anytime soon, it's only going to get worse.
 

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No, they just have lower demand for the average man then men have demand for the average woman. It is a night and day difference between how females treat guys they are sexually attracted to and guys that they are not sexually attracted to.
 

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My understanding of the word empathy is to feel for another because you can put yourself in their position. The problem is sometimes we are not in the position to “relate“. Women and men go through different life experiences and the levels vary. What I have experienced from women is that they only have empathy for other women or their own children. If men go through a struggle, they generally don’t seem to care. If the situation is something like one parent seeing another parent struggle, then there is a mutual relatable experience. To blankly say men lack empathy is foolish. Maybe from the female perspective, but men show empathy to other men and society as a whole.

My thought is women seem more selfish and apathetic because in the past they needed to worry about their long term security. If their man was struggling or showing weakness, he was a threat to the future success of her offspring. Plenty examples like, “the man cold”. A guy can’t get a cold and feel miserable? How about a woman dumping a man if he losses his job. They needed men to not fail because their lives depended on it. Now that dependence is not as strong as women have gotten more self sufficient. As a result, they seem to care even less now. In general, I think women have a genetic predisposition to despise weak men so they are not going to offer much empathy.
 

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My understanding of the word empathy is to feel for another because you can put yourself in their position. The problem is sometimes we are not in the position to “relate“. Women and men go through different life experiences and the levels vary. What I have experienced from women is that they only have empathy for other women or their own children. If men go through a struggle, they generally don’t seem to care. If the situation is something like one parent seeing another parent struggle, then there is a mutual relatable experience. To blankly say men lack empathy is foolish. Maybe from the female perspective, but men show empathy to other men and society as a whole.

My thought is women seem more selfish and apathetic because in the past they needed to worry about their long term security. If their man was struggling or showing weakness, he was a threat to the future success of her offspring. Plenty examples like, “the man cold”. A guy can’t get a cold and feel miserable? How about a woman dumping a man if he losses his job. They needed men to not fail because their lives depended on it. Now that dependence is not as strong as women have gotten more self sufficient. As a result, they seem to care even less now. In general, I think women have a genetic predisposition to despise weak men so they are not going to offer much empathy.
When you can walk in another’s shoes you can relate that is a good point. The most ardent critic is happy, almost compelled, to reach out to you if you share a common bond, which due to human nature is typically over a hardship.

Example, my ex wife made me a pariah and persona non grata in her friend group which by some word of mouth, coupled with simply being a single dad and how those images work in a bedroom community (never mind that I filed). Then, some idiot leaves part of his gun out on the kitchen table and the kid brings it out of his bag the next day at lunch. Nothing was imminently done to secure the area or lay the hammer down on the kid or family.

I chastise the superintend of the school on email and force them to address the issue which was coincidental the next day at the board of ed, so it’s added to the agenda and they have a cop come down. The board speaks and then I get up there. I very firmly but empathetically laid it on their feet to know and understand that it was simply gods grace that we didn’t have a room full of dead children. It’s on YouTube the following morning.

supposedly I’m this awful guy, and yet multiple of these moms are poking out of the woodwork to come tell me that it brought tears to their eyes for weeks. That wasn’t the point but it goes to illuminate that people who hate you will bond over a common threat.

that’s empathy. And empathy builds trust and relationships.
 
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