sangheilios
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Interesting to read some opinions on here but here is some info for some that may be a bit unaware.
After the fall of the Soviet Union there was an agreement with Russia and the U.S/west that no nations that geographically border Russia would be allowed to join NATO. This changed in 2008 when the Baltic countries (Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia) joined NATO, which is when tensions began to rise. There have been talks about Ukraine wanting to become part of the EU, as well as possibly NATO, over the past few years and this is not at all in Russia's best interest. I'm sure there are many other factors that are not known by the public, such as an oil pipeline that was supposed to go through Ukraine and even corruption with Biden's son and Ukraine.....what exactly that was is about I have no idea.
Something else to consider is why Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and is looking to do the same in the eastern part of Ukraine that has been the hot bed for separatist activity for quite some time now. Crimea has for a very long time been of significant strategic importance, as it is a warm water port in the black sea. The eastern part of Ukraine, known as the Donbass region, is a major industrial/resource hub that was also a key region during WW2 when the Germans and Soviet Union were fighting one another.
When people stop looking at things as evil vs. good and instead just look at this from a standpoint of acquiring or maintaining resources, creating geographical influence or even just self-preservation it all makes sense. I feel that Putin felt that they'd go in there and steam roll through Ukraine and ultimately take it over within a very short period of time and then install some sort of puppet(s) into the Ukranian government that they can control. They then can pull out of the country, avoiding further escalation, and then with this puppet government they can prevent the Ukraine from joining NATO or the EU. This gamble did not work out at all for Putin and now Finland is looking to join NATO and the president of Ukraine has asked for his nation to immediately be granted membership to the EU.
After the fall of the Soviet Union there was an agreement with Russia and the U.S/west that no nations that geographically border Russia would be allowed to join NATO. This changed in 2008 when the Baltic countries (Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia) joined NATO, which is when tensions began to rise. There have been talks about Ukraine wanting to become part of the EU, as well as possibly NATO, over the past few years and this is not at all in Russia's best interest. I'm sure there are many other factors that are not known by the public, such as an oil pipeline that was supposed to go through Ukraine and even corruption with Biden's son and Ukraine.....what exactly that was is about I have no idea.
Something else to consider is why Russia annexed Crimea in 2014 and is looking to do the same in the eastern part of Ukraine that has been the hot bed for separatist activity for quite some time now. Crimea has for a very long time been of significant strategic importance, as it is a warm water port in the black sea. The eastern part of Ukraine, known as the Donbass region, is a major industrial/resource hub that was also a key region during WW2 when the Germans and Soviet Union were fighting one another.
When people stop looking at things as evil vs. good and instead just look at this from a standpoint of acquiring or maintaining resources, creating geographical influence or even just self-preservation it all makes sense. I feel that Putin felt that they'd go in there and steam roll through Ukraine and ultimately take it over within a very short period of time and then install some sort of puppet(s) into the Ukranian government that they can control. They then can pull out of the country, avoiding further escalation, and then with this puppet government they can prevent the Ukraine from joining NATO or the EU. This gamble did not work out at all for Putin and now Finland is looking to join NATO and the president of Ukraine has asked for his nation to immediately be granted membership to the EU.