Anger

[Gamisch]

Thank you for expressing your thoughts so clearly.

Essentially, you’re saying that finding a pattern is easy, following it is equally straightforward, and adapting our behaviors based on these chosen patterns is possible. However, there comes a time when our actions are influenced more by external observations than by our conscious choices.

Therefore, it is important to articulate our “ideals” or the kind of person we aspire to be in life. When something threatens or challenges these ideals, we must assertively push it away.

In this context, are you suggesting that this might indicate a closed mind? For instance, if I want to support Real Madrid and someone tells me that Barcelona is better, I might respond aggressively by saying, “Go to hell with you and Barcelona.”

Could you clarify this point further? It doesn’t take long for me to list the qualities I desire for myself, but how can I avoid becoming closed-minded? Moreover, speaking candidly, it seems that this closed mindset can lead some people to appear "confident" or "go-getter," when in reality they are simply following their own path without considering other perspectives.

Some people manage to separate "bs from necessaries " so to speak and thus move through life way more flexible and especially satisfied with where theyre going. What's important to YOU? My homie in my example feels like it's important how his family views him( makes sense), so he will sacrifice his own peace, finances and even morals to satisfy them. If that makes him wake up happy, all Love to him.

Many men regarding women or one woman in particular will eventually come to a point where she will openly state her dissatisfaction with him. His looks, style , life in general. Next thing the man will try to change that, untill he realises that BEFORE she started spitting complaints it was already over. You waited 900 days to walk away from something that was dead all along.

Now you have a MAJOR identity crisis. Who are you, what do you stand for? I know I went through this and it was a dark ,dark abyss of mental torture. My entire identity was tied to her ,but I cannot control her mind!!! All I can control is my OWN mind.

The moment I started to accept this was like being newly born again. Had to discover what I stand for, my morals ect.

Thats why the MGTOW took off as it did. Eventually a man MUST go his own way, a path that otherwise will be left undiscovered forever like you see with your father. Gotta have specific goals in life to follow that path even if it's dark and seemingly hazardous at times.

I can write a book about this no joke. Women specifically are a BYPRODUCT and nothing more. Gotta set up a life where you don't depend on women, or even friends and family because again: you can't control other people's feelings and minds.

 

[Divorced w 3]

 

[Gamisch]

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Not a bad list that might'ved saved me lots of problems!!

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I rarely ever get angry in general. Even when people cut me off on my motorcycle, I literally don't never get angry. Some clueless zoomer literally merged into my lane on the highway a few months ago, without looking, and had I not anticipated it and swerved to the shoulder I could have died, but even from that I had minimal reaction, my heartrate maybe increased by 10-20bpm for 3 minutes and I didn't care. I didn't even flip him off or feel the need to 'vent' about it after.

The only thing in life that can ever make me angry is dealing with government workers like the DMV, and generally other abysmal customer service, or automated phone menus...any of that shvt can literally gives me an aneurysm.

I otherwise only get angry at people who physically attack me or continually provoke me and step over the line, but that's only happened a few times in my whole life, being the former in all cases.

I've never yelled or gotten angry with women. I did once employ a psuedo "tactical" anger with a toxic, manipulative woman I dated a couple years ago, but it was more of an attempt to control frame, and don't think it did much because it immediately turned into tone policing/victimhood.

Understand that to women, the opposite of love is not hate, but indifference. If they do something you do not like, no matter how insidious, it will hurt them far more if you have a minimal reaction and simply walk away from them rather than if you fight, argue, and take the bait. Women literally lose their minds when a man doesn't care. If you get emotional, angry, start yelling at her, it does not make you "alpha" or have a strong frame, it just means you're playing into her frame.

All that said, I do think there is a place for anger, or even physicality with women, but it's highly circumstantial and pretty much a last resort and really the only situation that might call for it is if she is habitually crossing the line, provoking you, insulting you, etc and you cannot physically get away from her.

Let me just drop this here.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

"Wait till people see this interview. You're gonna get some mail."
Connory smirking: "I might even get some female."

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

"Wait till people see this interview. You're gonna get some mail."
Connory smirking: "I might even get some female."

I bet her old cooch was wet at the end of that interview

 

[jhonny9546]

I can write a book about this no joke. Women specifically are a BYPRODUCT and nothing more. Gotta set up a life where you don't depend on women, or even friends and family because again: you can't control other people's feelings and minds.

Your thoughts here make a lot of sense.

I saw a friend of mine who joined his girlfriend's company, where her parents also work, and they will soon have to leave it to him as they retire. This friend and his girlfriend have been together for more than six years and have one child. I have been told several times about their constant disagreements and how they keep the relationship alive precisely because he will now be the heir to this company, along with her as his sidekick, and their child.

I mention this to illustrate how, in this case, through your reasoning, this person has completely settled into following a dream that is not his. Maybe he is doing well now; he earns good money, has a wife with whom he has intimate relations (though I’m unsure if it’s fulfilling given the discontent), and has his family. However, from what I understand, he lives in her home. So we are looking at a perfect example of how a woman shapes a man to feel "secure," living as a "kept man" while ensuring he stays in the company to provide, while she has the opportunity to have the full package (and maybe even a lover).

That said, I believe what you say, but I think it is really very difficult to find a woman who will follow you. To be the kind of man you describe, you have to be really tough and rigid. And to be successful and pursue your interests means you won’t accept disrespect from women. But how can you still keep her close without appearing beta?

What I mean is that the love a man might initially give to women, which may not be reciprocated, can transform into strength when focused on his own interests. This means becoming "beta" in relation to our interests—such as companies or hobbies—so that through that love, there is a real possibility of advancing in one's career. Once you achieve this, you will become very attractive to women in general. And when you decide to choose one and let her into your life, how do you balance that beta love that wants to focus on her while ensuring it remains directed toward your own interests?

Ultimately, we get attached to people; we are human. How do you navigate this in the right way? Should you treat her like a daughter? A friend? A sister? An employee of your company?

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Don't know if this list is good but actually I have all but still working on:
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[jhonny9546]

Most women may do something that annoys the man. Perhaps they have been told several times not to intervene in certain situations or to avoid certain actions, such as not putting pepper in the pasta, moving their man things, or doing something else that irritates him (just to give a trivial example). When they do it on purpose, the most commonly accepted* response is that the man gets angry, raises his voice, and may even mock the woman using derogatory terms like "demented," "idiot," "stupid," or He might say something like, "I always have to tell you," possibly even in front of other people..

*By "accepted," we mean that the woman usually remains quiet and behaves like a "good pet" after his "master" gave it the order.
Later, she might complain to her trusted friend about how he hurt her for the umpteenth time. After a few weeks, everything tends to go back to normal until the next incident occurs. This dynamic is quite common in LTR with children or marriage.


We know discussion happen, but if this is not a healthy and normal dynamic, it would be beneficial to share experiences of couples you know who have healthier dynamics and how they would act, and react, in similar situations. Additionally, if a woman chooses to stay with a man like this—whether for the sake of the children, to save the marriage, maintain their home, preserve her social image, or for other reasons—does it necessarily mean she is unhealthy or incapable of having a relationship with a "healthy" man?

 

[Divorced w 3]

Not a bad list that might'ved saved me lots of problems!!

I’m going to start ketamine and therapy next week. Enough is enough. Need some new perspective.