An experience of a Brown guy in the US, don't get why people say it is tough.

[JackRobin]

So I have been forum to forum (city data and RSD nation) and have pretty much came across the same crap, usually it is Asian men or Indian men *****ing about how pulling a girl outside of their own race in the US is nearly impossible. As a result, I wanted to share this. I am a 21 year old Indian guy attending the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill and this is my experience ranging from high school to right now (college).

At the age of 3 my family came from India to here, USA. We did move around to some states, first my family came to New York where I lived for 4 years and then to California where we lived for 3. Eventually we moved here to North Carolina.

In high school I was surrounded by mostly White kids, we had maybe 5 total Indians and a good number of Black and Latino kids.

Usually I hung out with some White guys. My religion was Christianity and these were the same guys I saw at church, played football with in the park, and the same guys whose families I went on trips with. I didn't have a chance to meet that many Indian people at all so basically I was hanging around Black people and White people.

Sophomore year of high school, had my first girlfriend (Korean girl). Broke up after a year and ended up dating a ginger (Junior year). Senior year I ended up dating this American brunette (irish, native american, hungarian, and italian mix).

Ended up trying out for the football team my sophomore year and started as a Strong Safety during my senior year. Was decent but not good enough to get a D-1A scholarship, plus parents wanted me to focus on academics in college.

Freshman year of college I went wild, kept my grades up but got a lot of lays, usually it was from White women since that is all we had. Now being a junior in college I will say I have been with more than 10 girls, not sure how many more than that as I suck at keeping count. Most Indian girls at my university are either conservative as heck or so white washed that they hate their own race, I have been with some Asian girls and Latina girls, but most girls at my college are White so that is the race I have been with.

Appearance wise I am 6 ft tall, have a Middle Eastern skin tone, and Indian like facial features. I dress GQ and always spend a lot of time at the gym to keep myself in shape.

There are women out there who will ONLY go for White men but in my experience they are a select few. I have felt in many cases that I am that happy medium for girls who are bored of White guys but aren't into Black guys or won't date them due to society pressures.

I have honestly had it easier with White girls than Indian girls.

The guys I know who are really success with women in real life are: A korean-white mixed guy, a Puerto Rican guy, a White guy of Irish heritage, a tall blonde White guy with model like facial features, and a White guy of Croatian heritage. Those guys can get more girls than me but that is because they put a lot more work into it.

Now I have realized that in being an Indian guy, I somehow get a lot of love and attraction from black women, gingers, and Latina girls.

I have to say, in my real life experience, being Indian has not held me back from attracting women. Now I have read that it might be a different scenario in Europe but I live in an area of the US known for being "backwards". In fact, some women (mainly White) have approached me and been interested in going with me just out of curiosity and because I was so different from everyone else.

My Korean-White mixed friend who looks mainly Asian has told me that being a ripped Asian dude has gotten him so much attention from women because women aren't used to seeing that.

So I want to ask, why are all of these Asian and Indian dudes whining so much about their race limiting them in the USA?

 

[The Bat]

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So I want to ask, why are all of these Asian and Indian dudes whining so much about their race limiting them in the USA?

Because it's easier to blame your perceived lack of success on some vague external force outside of your control than it is to change yourself.

I'm not saying that some women DON'T prefer one race over the other. That is perfectly reasonable and ok as I'm sure us guys are naturally attracted to one race over the other.

But the problem I have is when guys say that they are not successful because of their race, age, height, face, etc...well whoop-de-doo....take a number, life ain't fair. We weren't all made to look like Greek Gods.

 

[AriMamba]

I agree with the above poster. But i also think the fact that you were here at a young age you speak perfect english and are considered american so you never saw this issue. Not saying an accent will keep girls off you but i can tell you having a strong accent and being new to the country can take effect on your self steem

 

[floydb25]

Yea... I'm 5'8, skinny, of Persian descent with brown skin... Never had ANY problems with women of any kind. Due to shyness and insecurity in the past, it was the women who approached me. And that they did... Constantly. I was also sweet and unassertive. All kisses of death... Pffft.

When I lived up north - it was predominantly all white people. White women were all about it, and never even asked about race.

White guys hated me, though, and said I was ugly. Goes to show what they know. Ha Ha.

 

[SeymourCake]

Are you Mallu by any chance?

 

[JackRobin]

Odd, most White guys have given me no issues. Only problems I have run into were from Brown people (Pakistanis, Indian females, Indian guys, Arabs, etc.) who were a bit thrown off at me dating other races. Indian women have made my life a misery though.

 

[SeymourCake]

I'm Indian as well, and I completely agree with you when it comes to Indian women being either conservative or white-washed. It's pathetic really.

 

[JackRobin]

I'm Indian as well, and I completely agree with you when it comes to Indian women being either conservative or white-washed. It's pathetic really.

I don't care for them but a lot have tried to **** block me.

 

[yyc12]

So I want to ask, why are all of these Asian and Indian dudes whining so much about their race limiting them in the USA?

Haha, dude you're over 6ft tall and you say you dress "GQ" and work out; you sound pretty westernized. Those are traits that most western women find attractive. The ones that complain simply don't have the desired traits; not all will so they will have a harder time attracting women. It's not that hard, duh!! It's true though, the majority of white women (as in 60% or so) will be open to other races (as in "open"), but at the end of the day, most will "prefer" their own and there's nothing wrong with that. We don't choose who we're attracted to.

 

[JackRobin]

what do you mean by traits?

you lift weights, eat right, and dress right

you just have to put work in

 

[SeymourCake]

Well for one, you have the height advantage. Many Indian people fall under the short-mid category, including myself.

I'm 5'9.

 

[floydb25]

Odd, most White guys have given me no issues. Only problems I have run into were from Brown people (Pakistanis, Indian females, Indian guys, Arabs, etc.) who were a bit thrown off at me dating other races. Indian women have made my life a misery though.

Yea... Not sure why that is. I suspect envy and ego had a lot to do with it. IE, they couldnt stand the fact that women liked me, and not them. So, they tried to destroy my confidence. Competition had a lot to do with it, and unsuccessful people were the only ones talking ****. Good looking, successful guys would say this or that woman likes me, is checking me out, I'm a good looking guy, etc. No big deal, and it went both ways. They were attractive, successful, out-going, and had LIVES.

Others would just say I'm ugly over and over and over. No hesitation; no real reason. Just straight up hate. But almost always when a girl they liked came up to, and started flirting with me. If its not them - they hate, and try to destroy. They want you to be normal successful at best. Whatever they cant get - they dont want anybody else to, either. But inbetween all the hate and tearing down - they would still compete vigorously. Thats all it was. Trying to "better" at any cost - simply to preserve their ego. Even between various friendships... Just a big ****-swinging competition.

Thats why I dont mess with guys anymore. The more attractive and successful you are - the more they hate and try to bring you down. The competition is fierce, and theyre always wanting you to fail, so they can claim superiority over you. Bunch of fags can keep their bull**** insecurities to themselves. Guys only ever brought me down, and made me feel worse about everything. Plus, they just get in the way, and decrease your opportunities.

I say white guys 'cause it was all predominantly white up there.

 

[Ringleader41]

It's not just Asians that have it bad, it's blacks too. Hispanics have it easier than any of the minorities imoh. It all depends on your location and you lucked up as a minority. Me on the other hand, as a black male, I go to some dixie worshiping college where all the girls try to be southern belles. I can't date my own race because black girls aren't attracted to me. Last, minorities have it even harder in dating their white counterparts because they're own women even more exclusively dates white men unless they haven't been nationalized yet. This is what I've just observed.

 

[Ringleader41]

Haha, dude you're over 6ft tall and you say you dress "GQ" and work out; you sound pretty westernized. Those are traits that most western women find attractive. The ones that complain simply don't have the desired traits; not all will so they will have a harder time attracting women. It's not that hard, duh!! It's true though, the majority of white women (as in 60% or so) will be open to other races (as in "open"), but at the end of the day, most will "prefer" their own and there's nothing wrong with that. We don't choose who we're attracted to.

hell no, it's like 5%. Those traits do help when it comes to dating white women though.

 

[JackRobin]

Floyd, I feel you about unsuccessful guys trying to drag you down.

Like one forum I visited was the Roosh V Forum where they basically ridiculed all good looking guys, all Indian and Asian guys, and everyone. I have heard that these days being Indian alone will get you banned from the Roosh forum which is kind of sad seeing that it is one of the few forums you can find out about gaming women abroad.

See that is my thing, I have no issues in America because people here are like "Indian what? you mean the natives?". There are not many bad stereotypes about Indians here in general because most people do not run into those of our background. On the other hand, I worry about going to Europe with my friends this summer since:

1. There is clear and open racism there.
2. Women there I have heard usually sleep with Whites or Blacks and that is it.
3. There are bad stereotypes about people from India in a lot of countries there.

In a way I would like to find a forum where I can talk to travelers and ask them what I might be up against but then again, the Roosh forum is full of sexually frustrated virgins who probably haven't seen ***** in real life for months so that is out of the option. City Data forum is not even allowing race threads.

Heck, I am in a tough situation concerning my trip to Europe, might end up cancelling it and telling my two White friends no.

 

[JackRobin]

It's not just Asians that have it bad, it's blacks too. Hispanics have it easier than any of the minorities imoh. It all depends on your location and you lucked up as a minority. Me on the other hand, as a black male, I go to some dixie worshiping college where all the girls try to be southern belles. I can't date my own race because black girls aren't attracted to me. Last, minorities have it even harder in dating their white counterparts because they're own women even more exclusively dates white men unless they haven't been nationalized yet. This is what I've just observed.

Ya, for a while I thought most White women were crazy for the BBC but apparently not the case down south. I mean you do see Black guys with White girls but it isn't as common as seeing Latinos with White women for some odd reason.

Thing is, Black men have their niche. German and British women I have heard go CRAZY for you guys. Also I have heard there are places in America like California where a Black man can be king in terms of getting laid.

In my experience, I have dated girls who said they would not get with a Black dude. They never said why but usually the "I am not attracted to them" part came into play a lot.

Asian men and Indian men still haven't found their niche it seems. Like you don't hear of countries where women will get with a man just because he is Indian or Asian. Yet here in the US, I have noticed that Asian and Indian men have access to women who would otherwise not date Black men or get with a Black man.

 

[JackRobin]

I find it funny how non-whites claim whites have it easy.

As if you were ever a white male.

What is mind-numbing is the irony of a bunch of guys hating on whites but thinking that only whites are racist.

Well here in the US, I have certainly been able to do just as well as my White friends when I have had more game than them but I have noticed that there are White men out there I cannot compete with. Like one guy I know is a 6 ft blue eyed brown hair man with chiseled features and lots of game.

Thing is, a lot of White women will already prefer White men because that is just human nature. The taste that White women have usually influence the taste of other races, a lot of Hispanic and Asian and Black girls that are White washed will have similar tastes.

Not to mention, you can easily go to Brazil, Colombia, or in most parts of Asia and get laid well before any other races can.

I have not tried my luck in foreign countries so I cannot say how an Indian will be perceived. Personally, I have nothing against White guys, without them I would not be able to have as much success as I have right now. Also, as I have said about the Roosh V forum, it is often the minorities who are racist as hell towards other minorities.

 

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What is mind-numbing is the irony of a bunch of guys hating on whites but thinking that only whites are racist.

I too is so oppressed by the white debbil. Fvcker takes agriculture to a whole new level, gives me clean drinking water, takes my garbage and sewage away and has a knack for building civilizations. Whitey thinks that's enough? I got news for him.

 

[Ringleader41]

Ya, for a while I thought most White women were crazy for the BBC but apparently not the case down south. I mean you do see Black guys with White girls but it isn't as common as seeing Latinos with White women for some odd reason.

Thing is, Black men have their niche. German and British women I have heard go CRAZY for you guys. Also I have heard there are places in America like California where a Black man can be king in terms of getting laid.

In my experience, I have dated girls who said they would not get with a Black dude. They never said why but usually the "I am not attracted to them" part came into play a lot.

Asian men and Indian men still haven't found their niche it seems. Like you don't hear of countries where women will get with a man just because he is Indian or Asian. Yet here in the US, I have noticed that Asian and Indian men have access to women who would otherwise not date Black men or get with a Black man.

It's bullshvt, I'm tall, muscular, and good looking just like op and act white. My friends don't even call me black lol. I have trouble with girls and my friends and other white guys are either shocked or think I'm lying. I was a virgin till about a month ago and nobody would've ever suspected I was virgin unless they knew me.

 

[JackRobin]

It's bullshvt, I'm tall, muscular, and good looking just like op and act white. My friends don't even call me black lol. I have trouble with girls and my friends and other white guys are either shocked or think I'm lying. I was a virgin till about a month ago and nobody would've ever suspected I was virgin unless they knew me.

Ya, I can see it man. I mean I have gone to many forums where it is usually Black users voicing their opinions on how much they have managed to struggle with women in the US. Like porn might tell you Black men are the most desired but real life experience has showed me other wise, just talking to the girls I have been with. I banged this good looking redhead who is dating my Vietnamese friend, she said she would date any guy just as long as he wasn't Black. Thing is, she comes from a rich family too, you would think this crap only happens with women in broke redneck areas. Again, this is just my experience, not saying it is true in all cases.