Abundance is the most important factor

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This is so damn true. Put that in the SoSuave Book of Gold. Thats really the only kind of woman worth having. The rest are too much work for minimal return.
Be very careful, every girl that has shown high IL to me right away has backfired. it shows addictive personality. You just cant trust em. Once the buzz has worn off, she’s off to the next buzz. We used to call them branch swingers in my day. But For the majority of stable girls, they have a natural barrier that only their ideal man can plow through. They have these (bitchy) walls to protect them to insure they have the most ideal man for the future ( and perhaps their lives). So you can see why they’re so picky and annoying
 

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Most guys are sexually frustrated these days. But that’s not a problem. How easy or hard it is to get laid fluctuates. The problem is the amount of male “victims”. The victim mentality is the real disease.

Women were programmed to be susceptible to domination. And men have succumbed to being a victim? lol. It makes no sense.

Case in point- men used to pillage and plunder and take everything after a war victory.
Part of the reason for the difference of modern men vs historical men: The pillaging and plundering you mentioned (which, as you said, used to be the norm after a war victory), despite being praised historically (as it should; the winner is supposed to take the spoils of war), is viewed as evil/theft/a war crime today (all because losers of historical wars are butthurt...and for some strange reason, society has started pandering to/empowering losers)

In other words, winners still want to take everything after a war...but are prohibited from doing so anymore.

As for the difficulty vs ease of getting laid, it's going to fluctuate widely from man to man. George Costanza will never have the same options as Tom Brady, no matter how much game George Costanza develops.
 

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Be very careful, every girl that has shown high IL to me right away has backfired. it shows addictive personality. You just cant trust em. Once the buzz has worn off, she’s off to the next buzz. We used to call them branch swingers in my day. But For the majority of stable girls, they have a natural barrier that only their ideal man can plow through. They have these (bitchy) walls to protect them to insure they have the most ideal man for the future ( and perhaps their lives). So you can see why they’re so picky and annoying
Perhaps your explanation (addictive personality; quick to move on to the next buzz) would explain why the woman I had my last date with chatted with me nonstop for the next few days, only to end up hating me on day four.
 

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You're now a Jedi my friend!!! Even if you do not have a bunch of women at the moment one flakes on you eventually if you put yourself out there they will come, it's a numbers game but to have the numbers in your favor you have to put yourself out there and of course be your best self. It's all about mindset first, and it looks like you have that figured out.



Thirst makes men do some strange things, the thing is the thirstier you are the more desperate and simpish you act and it's a turn-off to women kind of like it's a turn of to men when a woman is to needy. Same energy

As I've got older I learned the secert to curbing this thirst is to be present and calm, and realize that you can't force it. The more I'm in my "Chill" (or as most people would call it stoic but I'm far from) the easier it gets



Let's be honest a lot of guys who say they are quitting dating weren't in the game to begin with. I have spoken to some incels myself a few years ago and they give up after 10 rejections, 10 rejections!!!! I use to get rejected 10-50 times a night back in the day when I was a "Game addict" but I'm talking about these guys got rejected 10 times in their live and now it's doom and gloom and we are talking about men in their early 20's working at chick fillet, living with their parents not going to school etc

Do not expect a woman to make you happy, it's better to be a man of joy and peace and have a woman enhance it, instead of relying on another person for complete emotional fulfillment

Also a lot of "MGTOWs" are one ******* away from going back to the plantation. In 2016/2017 I used to be friends with a latino guy who was a "Super MGTOW"(he even made youtube videos but didn't get a lot of views) the guy found out his baby momma was cheating on him and swore of women. He then went to the Philippines in 2017 (before Passport bros became a thing) smashed 10 women in a month, and met his now wife a doctor. The guy left MGTOW, deleted all his youtube videos and no one knows where the **** he's been since lmfaoooo
How do you put yourself out there? Where are the chicks? Should we go knocking door to door to find them? Drag them out of the house?
 

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How do you put yourself out there? Where are the chicks? Should we go knocking door to door to find them? Drag them out of the house?
I am intrigued to hear his answer to your question.

His comment that he used to get rejected 10-50 times per night suggests he's talking about night clubs (If so, I'd like to hear an alternative for those of us for whom night clubs aren't our cup of tea)
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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I am intrigued to hear his answer to your question.

His comment that he used to get rejected 10-50 times per night suggests he's talking about night clubs (If so, I'd like to hear an alternative for those of us for whom night clubs aren't our cup of tea)
I think I'd be ok to go to nightclubs tbh, feels like it's the only place left to meet women?
There's just no nightclubs in my small town, so I have to travel an hour to find one.
 

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I think I'd be ok to go to nightclubs tbh, feels like it's the only place left to meet women?
There's just no nightclubs in my small town, so I have to travel an hour to find one.
This guy I know used to get on my case (back in 2019) about how badly he wanted me to go bar-hopping with him. He insisted I'd get guaranteed sex (and he couldn't seem to comprehend the idea that even if sex was guaranteed, bar-hopping/nightclubs would be so miserable for me, the sex isn't worth it)
 

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He insisted I'd get guaranteed sex (and he couldn't seem to comprehend the idea that even if sex was guaranteed, bar-hopping/nightclubs would be so miserable for me, the sex isn't worth it)
So even back then, you were concocting self-fulfilling prophecies which strangled your chances of success, BEFORE they'd even gotten out of the f-cking crib
 

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This guy I know used to get on my case (back in 2019) about how badly he wanted me to go bar-hopping with him. He insisted I'd get guaranteed sex (and he couldn't seem to comprehend the idea that even if sex was guaranteed, bar-hopping/nightclubs would be so miserable for me, the sex isn't worth it)
Nightlife is a joke now, and has been getting worse for years, and somehow got even worse after Covid. RooshV made a post about this way back in 2016 and it's still continuing. They're even more of a sausagefest and the women are either not-trying, wearing cinderella hand me downs, or ghetto/trashy women who can't handle their alcohol, wearing incredibly ugly, tasteless, trashy hoe outfits that are so repulsive despite how revealing they tend to be.

With social proof you can still do well and find the one classy dime piece in the entire block, but otherwise it's kind of a clown show.


How do you put yourself out there? Where are the chicks? Should we go knocking door to door to find them? Drag them out of the house?
Grocery stores, parks, social events (like trivia night, or karoake - not a fan of the latter personally), college campuses, sports clubs (rock climbing gyms, yoga/fitness classes, tennis meetup groups, disc golf groups), beaches...and any "3rd place" with lots of foot traffic, really...

Meeting women at night clubs/bars is a waste of time unless you're a) Chad tier looks with lots of rizz, or b) you have social proof (ie, being around or knowing hot women in the venue) because otherwise you are going to deal with tons of rejections for the sake of dumpster diving.
 
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Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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You either believe in yourself no matter what the situation, or you don’t. Positive feedback increases your belief, negative experiences when in a confident mindset are opportunities to learn. Options increase from feeling abundant, which leads to detachment from tying outcomes to one’s esteem, which is the ultimate sign of confidence, and which is a mindset. It’s when you’re not feeling that way, that you force outcomes, which repels others.

Were you the guy talking about not getting hugs? You’re not a good authority on this. Your posts are neon flashing signs of scarcity.

You would do well to humble yourself, try to do things differently and stop striking out so much. Go work out. Go take a walk or call a friend. Do something that brings good vibes into your life. Improve your mood, to improve your appetite to try new things and take risk, to improve your results. Fake it til you make it was not invented today on SoSuave.
No, that was @MatureDJ. I posted on a recent thread saying that I had a number of hugs at a Wedding last Sunday.

In answer to your other threads, I regularly work out. In fact, I just did a bike ride today. The rest of my time is occupied with a full-time job, taking care of my mother/folks, and definitely spending time in edifying (ie religious) content. Of course, I talk to people at work too.

It always baffles me at how people have some advice about my life based on assumptions that they think about incels in general. I don't play video games, have any "vices", or even have much time to watch TV, and am not a shut-in. Then you come at an angle of advice based on assumptions that are not true and it just comes across as condescending when in fact you know nothing much about my real life apart from the fact that I don't have a partner. I hope this clears up any of your "assumptions". All that does is mean you are happy without any woman or partner, you are invisible to them, and whatever. It doesn't translate into abundance and having allot of options. It translates into not being miserable without them.
 

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Nightlife is a joke now, and has been getting worse for years, and somehow got even worse after Covid. RooshV made a post about this way back in 2016 and it's still continuing. They're even more of a sausagefest and the women are either not-trying, wearing cinderella hand me downs, or ghetto/trashy women who can't handle their alcohol, wearing incredibly ugly, tasteless, trashy hoe outfits that are so repulsive despite how revealing they tend to be.

With social proof you can still do well and find the one classy dime piece in the entire block, but otherwise it's kind of a clown show.



Grocery stores, parks, social events (like trivia night, or karoake - not a fan of the latter personally), college campuses, sports clubs (rock climbing gyms, yoga/fitness classes, tennis meetup groups, disc golf groups), beaches...and any "3rd place" with lots of foot traffic, really...

Meeting women at night clubs/bars is a waste of time unless you're a) Chad tier looks with lots of rizz, or b) you have social proof (ie, being around or knowing hot women in the venue) because otherwise you are going to deal with tons of rejections for the sake of dumpster diving.
I often see beautiful women in shopping malls, buying clothes etc.
Probably more likely to be higher quality, than the ones you find in nightclubs.
 
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Thanks to you I replied to his post that I would otherwise have not cared to have replied. I do have a life outside of sosuave.
What about you?
I just wanted to make sure he knew the difference between @MatureDJ and yourself. I was just trying to help.

You go to one wedding and become so hostile and dramatic smh.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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So even back then, you were concocting self-fulfilling prophecies which strangled your chances of success, BEFORE they'd even gotten out of the f-cking crib
"Back then"?

2019 was a mere 5 years ago. You make it sound like we're talking about 2009.

In any case, it's a mere fact bar-hopping/night clubs would be miserable for me (they'd be miserable for the vast majority of autists for that matter).

Here's a story about an autist who attempted to live a party lifestyle at UCLA. It didn't end well: https://www.businessinsider.com/college-freshman-ucla-autism-social-burn-out-2023-3
 

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I just clarified the difference between @MatureDJ and yourself, which was you hump pillows. You attacked me right after and I’m not the type of guy that will just take it in the chin.
That sounded like a jeering remark (ie he is not only that pathetic, but guess what he also does). Did not sound like a comparison. You know my rep here so if you make statements like that it is fair to assume its another "lets bash the incel loser posters on here for fun" attack.
 

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That sounded like a jeering remark (ie he is not only that pathetic, but guess what he also does). Did not sound like a comparison. You know my rep here so if you make statements like that it is fair to assume its another "lets bash the incel loser posters on here for fun" attack.
I didn’t mean it like that, but to be fair, you just want to pick fights with everyone.

Everyone knows about the pillow humping. They just don’t say it so bluntly.
 
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