Absolute injustice, Daygamer had both arms broken

[kavi]

So we can all acknowledge that OP posted this thread looking for Yes Men and for people to sound like Red Pill losers who talk about how bad feminism is. However, for any guy out there reading, there is a fine line between being a bold cold approacher that talks to women versus a nuisance that potentially gets into trouble. Let's dissect this all even further.

For one, yea we can blame the environment. England is a very anti-sex type of society full of women who are still clinging on to the Victorian Era. Poor guy decided to cold approach in a country hit by sexual trafficking from Pakistani gangs and one which looks down on cold approach as a whole. I have approached English women before and they are indeed a cold bunch that frowns upon anyone that acts out of the norm. So we can say that the guy was in a tough environment and a country terrible for game, yeah, that is a part of it.

We can give the guy any excuse in the world to feel like a victim and feel sorry for himself but where is the accountability?

It is no different than dudes blaming height or race for their lack of success with women. Yeah it's tough out there but what exactly are you doing about it? If it is not a market suited for you, then give up and play videogames or something.

Now let's talk about the coaching that the guy receives. We should be focusing more on how so many PUAs are scamming dudes and misleading them down a destructive path. Tusk likely told this guy to spam approach and knew that unlike him, the guy will have to live with the consequences of his local area. PUAs never bothered to make a distinction on where cold approach is simply not okay and when to be aware of the environment. Once again, a failure on the game industry to mislead yet another poor guy.

Now let's talk about the guy. He has Aspergers so he likely came off as a weirdo to women, I know it sounds rude saying it but call it for what it is. Then he does this in a smaller city or town in an country that already has a restrictive sexual climate around cold approach. Even he should have known that the odds were stacked against him based on all of that alone and that is not counting looks.

Finally, let's get to looks. As a guy, you have a lot of control over your looks. I have a big nose and other flaws but I make the most of my look. I work out (before I got sick), wore fitted clothes, did not dress like a bum, and made sure to get regular haircuts. You have to look presentable which this guy probably didn't.

Given his Aspergers, he creeped out a lot of girls but failed to notice the women he crept out. Overtime, this grew and grew until it ended poorly for the guy.

We need to stop selling cold approach as the only way to meet women because for a lot of men out there, it simply isn't viable. It is only reserved for mentally tough guys who are willing to put in the work and have basic people skills. If you do not have that, you will come off as a creep and at worst, end up like this dude did.

Its just the Coaches fault imo.

Cold Approach is not that common out there imo, younger guys might holla at girls here and there, but not like how these coaches and PUA community make you think its 'nomal' for men to talk to women in the streets.

Cold Approach is not part of 'normal culture' atleast in the UK afaik. It is just young guys who holla in a more opportunistic way. Going out of your way to Cold Approach in sessions is more a PUA thing. I have been out and about a lot in Central London around Oxford Street which is the main part of London and I rarely ever see anyone cold-approaching.

 

[Don of the north]

For one, yea we can blame the environment. England is a very anti-sex type of society full of women who are still clinging on to the Victorian Era. Poor guy decided to cold approach in a country hit by sexual trafficking from Pakistani gangs and one which looks down on cold approach as a whole. I have approached English women before and they are indeed a cold bunch that frowns upon anyone that acts out of the norm. So we can say that the guy was in a tough environment and a country terrible for game, yeah, that is a part of it.

This guy is out of touch.
Britian in 2022 is NOT anti sex. This isn't the victorian era. It's super sex POSITIVE feminist. That means women can do whatever they hell they want sexually and get ran through with one night stands while not being shamed, while men are shamed ferociously for anything and average men can't express their sexuality and true desires. It's a sexual supremacy movement. Never has there been more sexual promiscuity in Britain for women. Tinder is alive and well and exists as a d!ck app for women to find top percent guys for quick bedroom fun.

I'm not for shaming women, but if you're not going to shame women, then you can't shame men either. Men are called sleazy for sleeping around nowadays, while women are called empowered. You lack the insight to see these major political shifts.

Also, you've been approaching for only one year. Rookie....lol

 

[Don of the north]

Its just the Coaches fault imo.

Cold Approach is not that common out there imo, younger guys might holla at girls here and there, but not like how these coaches and PUA community make you think its 'nomal' for men to talk to women in the streets.

Cold Approach is not part of 'normal culture' atleast in the UK afaik. It is just young guys who holla in a more opportunistic way. Going out of your way to Cold Approach in sessions is more a PUA thing. I have been out and about a lot in Central London around Oxford Street which is the main part of London and I rarely ever see anyone cold-approaching.

Men have been shamed against saying hello to the high priestesses so of course you're not seeing many men do it. This will come back to bite women in the ass because their future husband might be afraid to approach.
Cold approach has been replaced more by online dating and tinder. Doesn't make cold approach "wrong" just because it's different. I'd call it an honest way to meet someone.

 

[Gamisch]

They want to victim blame the man and make sure the women have no accountability. It's SOOOO obvious that looks and not "social awareness" is what these women are responding to. After all, all he said was hello and one sentence.

If you tell the truth, which is many of these women are simply recoiling in disgust because what they perceive as an ugly man DARED to say hello to them, then you make the woman look superficial. Which is not allowed of course. If you're great looking, you can do almost no wrong and if you're not then everything you do is wrong/creepy.

Everything is always the man's fault in the matriarchy. You can't work out your face. You just have to approach and hope a girl likes your look if you're not a chad. You will get rejected the majoity of the time. They are destroying this guy just for trying. It's disgusting.

There ARE PLENTY of really nice caring women out there who will be nice to you even if they reject you. Why are we giving oxygen to these horrible women that are nasty to people just for saying hello? Disgraceful. The women who do this should be called out.

Jesus christ, I knew you would use this thread to regurgitate the same black pill nonsense and circle jerk with Corrector how boohoohoo bad these whemen are., just like your last thread.

Extremel tunnel vision and naief at the same time. You are going high and low to explain your jaded view, even trying to justify hitting on underage girls.

Now I can understand that sometimes man during his Cold approach cant tell if a girl is 15 or 19, but YOU cant understand that her father might be your age and tries to protect her. There are more sides to this than yours bro. This all sounds extremely blackpilled and negative. This is the energy you probably project in real life, just like that guy.

There is also a matter of being street smart. Yet another aspect you dont seem to grasp. You are out on the streets, you know. If police would show up I would at least talk my out of it. If they say I bother women I wouldn't have any idea what they're talking bout. You'd probably play this same record for the cops and expect them to understand your goofy azz.

We know all about the problem now. But watcha gonna do about it?? Seriously . What would be your advice for this guy, especially now you both been through the same situation? How do you plan to make improvements?

 

[kavi]

@Don of the north you have a very negative view of women yet still go out of your way to cold approach them. Obviously you dont let your true self show through. You hate women but still want them for sex and love. That is a very bad and toxic place to be in.

Guess what life isnt fair, an ugly dumb socially uncalibrated weirdo wont get the same outcome as a good-looking, calibrated, positive guy. So what thats life I cant believe your even complaining about Hypergamy.

 

[Zimbabwe]

I hate how as men we automatically take the side of the guy here and blame society rather than truly asking and evaluating what went on just so we can fuel the whole "uh muh feminist society" nonsense from the Manosphere of old. It makes every guy think they are going to get in trouble for cold approaching when they will not.

I have been cold approaching for almost a year now and I have also met a lot of wings through pickup groups. After doing this for almost a year, I can confidently say that most men lack the social awareness and social calibration to successfully cold approach. In this guy's situation, I can immediately tell that he went right in, spam approached an entire area, brought a lot of attention to himself, and annoyed people to where they felt unsafe.

I've had wings that did that very thing and some of them ended up getting banned from venues because of it. Instead of blaming society or even the guy, let's blame coaches like James Tusk and other buffoons who are spreading nonsense and telling men to approach without reading a situation. Guys like them charge abnormally high prices for a bootcamp and afterwards, are not around to defend the poor chaps they coached.

Just this year, I saw a PUA bootcamp play out and it was the same nonsense. Idiot coaches telling men to "take action", making them look like fools in the process. These coaches will jump city to city but the poor guys themselves have to stick to that very city. Most men like those in the OP can benefit from learning how to read situations, when to actually approach, and then learning that way rather than spamming an entire venue and poisoning the well for everyone.

This isn't a society going to h3ll scenario, this was a misguided guy who failed to read social situations as well as a crappy coach blindly leading him to commit mistakes.

Hands down you are one of the best posters left on this forum, agree 100%

 

[Don of the north]

I've also notice in BARS, people are mostly using these venues to meet their tinder date. or go out with friends. I've even heard of a club in Australia banning men for staring. All the women needs to say to a bounce.

Jesus christ, I knew you would use this thread to regurgitate the same black pill nonsense and circle jerk with Corrector how boohoohoo bad these whemen are., just like your last thread.

Your view is extremely tunneled vision and naief at the same time. You are going high and low to explain your jaded view, even trying to justify hitting on underage girls.

Now I can understand that sometimes man during his Cold approach cant tell if a girl is 15 or 19, but YOU cant understand that her father might be your age and tries to protect her. There are more sides to this than yours bro. This all sounds extremely blackpilled and negative. This is the energy you probably project in real life, just like that guy.

There is also a matter of being street smart. Yet another aspect you dont seem to grasp. You are put on the streets, you know. If police would show up I would at least talk my out of it. If they say I bother women I wouldn't have any idea what they're talking bout. You'd probably play this same record for the cops and expect them to understand your goofy azz.

We know all about the problem now. But watcha gonna do about it?? Seriously . What would be your advice for this guy, especially now you both been through the same situation? How do you plan to make improvements?

I haven't been arrested or been tortured by a mob.

I'm NOT being blackpill. Blackpill guys say "it's over". I'm saying we should be able to approach! How the hell is that blackpill? Sure some things from the blackpill are spot on just like some things from the red pill are right. I'm not tied down to an ideology.

For the future men, I hope things change. We need grassroots political movments and we need to stop rolling over to the whim of every female demand.

For current men, my advice would be to stay out of small towns, big cities with big crime where they won't respond and keep moving around not staying in one spot too long. Do NOT upload any infields obviously and don't even give name or details to women unless they are clearly into you. Dangerous time to be a man. If you don't want to cold approach, then don't. It's up to you. The hottest women are the nicest on average. You will get the nastiest reponses from 3 and 4s.

Fathers need to protect their son's nowadays. We are the prey. Men have more to lose in any sexual encounter than a woman.

 

[Don of the north]

@Don of the north you have a very negative view of women yet still go out of your way to cold approach them. Obviously you dont let your true self show through. You hate women but still want them for sex and love. That is a very bad and toxic place to be in.

Guess what life isnt fair, an ugly dumb socially uncalibrated weirdo wont get the same outcome as a good-looking, calibrated, positive guy. So what thats life I cant believe your even complaining about Hypergamy.

It's NOT about outcome. OUTCOME= TONS of rejection compared to chad.

This is about torture, assault, and arrest.

I don't think all women are bad, I think many are great otherwise I wouldn't bother with this. I think our society is screwed up and there are SOME bad women out there.

I don't hate women and that's a typical "misogyny" shame tactic. I know there are GREAT women out there, but unfortunately you have to go through nasty women to get there. All men are not great either as I've stated my biggest beef is actually with men who allowed this to happen. The "protect my daughter" type.

 

[Don of the north]

Well said. But how do men sign up and protect a system that protects only 5 % of chad tier guys. Some pundits estate 90% of guys are technically incel. That means unless its a mob of 5% chads why would these guys fight for a system that is screwing them as well? What is your take on that?

Brainwashing and manipulation. I'm fighting against the grain here. Very difficult when you don't have mainstream views like I do. The culture brainwashed people into viewpoints. There's not a misogynistic bone in my body, yet people are making that claim against me,

 

[kavi]

You dont know about England, these little working class towns, and there are loads of them, are tough places, 'pedo' is a term thrown around a lot and tbh its a cultural hatred of it not even related to the paki groomers. The hatred and fear of it is so culturally deep theres a whole movement around catching pedos you can find videos on YT.

In these places people dont dress well, boys and girls are very trash and just out an about wearing sportswear and stuff, its all really tough and then you have this guy mass approaching even young chicks in a place with lots of tough working class lads who dont play that game just cos he learned it from James Tusk it wasnt gonna end well.

 

[corrector]

Brainwashing and manipulation. I'm fighting against the grain here. Very difficult when you don't have mainstream views like I do. The culture brainwashed people into viewpoints. There's not a misogynistic bone in my body, yet people are making that claim against me,

Exactly. It's like someone saying they are anti-police by pointing at cases of police corruption rather than fixing the corruption. Its easier to put a false label on someone rather than deal with the hard issues. Same thing happens here.

 

[Gamisch]

It's NOT about outcome. OUTCOME= TONS of rejection compared to chad.

This is about torture, assault, and arrest.

I don't think all women are bad, I think many are great otherwise I wouldn't bother with this. I think our society is screwed up and there are SOME bad women out there.

I don't hate women and that's a typical "misogyny" shame tactic. I know there are GREAT women out there, but unfortunately you have to go through nasty women to get there. All men are not great either as I've stated my biggest beef is actually with men who allowed this to happen. The "protect my daughter" type.

You're talking crazy. Somebody like you is never satisfied.

When men DON'T watch out for their daughters you'll complain they weren't raised properly and blame the fathers.

But now you complaining fathers should stand aside and watch while their underaged daughters being preyed upon. There's a thing called instinctive behavior, for example protecting your offspring.

You can't connect the dots. You've been just explained how young girls getting recruited by shady men. Do I really need to explain that teenage women are vulnerable?

 

[Don of the north]

You dont know about England, these little working class towns, and there are loads of them, are tough places, 'pedo' is a term thrown around a lot and tbh its a cultural hatred of it not even related to the paki groomers. The hatred and fear of it is so culturally deep theres a whole movement around catching pedos you can find videos on YT.

In these places people dont dress well, boys and girls are very trash and just out an about wearing sportswear and stuff, its all really tough and then you have this guy mass approaching even young chicks in a place with lots of tough working class lads who dont play that game just cos he learned it from James Tusk it wasnt gonna end well.

Stupid inbred idiots. True pedos would never do something like he did. They become a teacher/priest/sports coach ect to get ACCESS to little children under 14. They need time to manipulate them and gain trust. They don't walk around cold approaching asking for dates to people as old as 30s like I saw.

If the pedos are approaching stange children in street, it's an abduction attempt with a car(very rare) and they are not uploading videos about it onto youtube and mass attempting it a hundred times, and they will be approaching little children for a "ride". He was on a bike for Christ's sake clearly trying to pick up adult WOMEN.

In to catch a predator with chis hanson, the guy is TOLD the girls age(under 16 in every episode I've seen), and then he explicitly tells the teen sexual stuff he will do and then shows up at the house.

This guy did NOTHING like that.

This is straight up mob justice based on rumors. This guy was innocent. He never continued even talking if the girl said she was underage. The girl HAS to tell him how old she is and then give him a chance to back off.

Also, did these morons not see that the majority of his approaches were women WAY WAY over 18? If it's really like that in England, I'm not sure how james tusk didn't know this and warn him. Maybe because he's from London, he's not familiar with these idiots in rural England? I saw the places he was approaching. I mean there were small apartment buildings and stuff. It's not like this was farmland. It looked like the suburbs of any city. People approach at the mall all the time back in the day in the burbs. That was a thing. People have lost their damn mind.

 

[Don of the north]

You're talking crazy. Somebody like you is never satisfied.

When men DON'T watch out for their daughters you'll complain they weren't raised properly and blame the fathers.

But now you complaining fathers should stand aside and watch while their underaged daughters being preyed upon. There's a thing called instinctive behavior, for example protecting your offspring.

You can't connect the dots. You've been just explained how young girls getting recruited by shady men. Do I really need to explain that teenage women are vulnerable?

He didn't prey on anyone. He said hello. What are you talking about? If your teen daughter gets approached and some guy says hello and the guy backs off and sorry I didn't know how old you were once he finds out, what's the big deal?

Your idea is to get a group of guys and show up at his house and break his arms for chatting her up and leaving right away once he finds out how old she is? That's not protecting your daughter. That's being a psychopath. And I don't believe for a second you'd do that. The people that did that are NUTS.

Also, let's stop pretending this is about minors. People are going nuts over this stuff no matter if they are over 18 or not. Get real. And this protect my daughter nonsense is going way over 18 nowadays with men getting shamed for dating women in their mid 20s like dicarprio. I've heard him called a "predator". This toxic view of men as "predators" is ridiculous. CONSENTUAL SEX is consensual with adults. Grown ass Women over 18 are not childen that need protection from daddy.

 

[corrector]

Going back to the OP/original post. I did a quick search and this story is not being covered on Wheat-Waffles, IncelTV, BPJ, or any other incel channels. You have to register on Reddit itself if you want to see this content and I can't see this on a google search "arms broken approaching women". I'd expect allot more coverage for a story of that magnatude. The only source of this on that reddit thread?

 

[Bokanovsky]

This guy is out of touch.
Britian in 2022 is NOT anti sex. This isn't the victorian era. It's super sex POSITIVE feminist. That means women can do whatever they hell they want sexually and get ran through with one night stands while not being shamed, while men are shamed ferociously for anything and average men can't express their sexuality and true desires. It's a sexual supremacy movement. Never has there been more sexual promiscuity in Britain for women. Tinder is alive and well and exists as a d!ck app for women to find top percent guys for quick bedroom fun.

I'm not for shaming women, but if you're not going to shame women, then you can't shame men either. Men are called sleazy for sleeping around nowadays, while women are called empowered. You lack the insight to see these major political shifts.

Also, you've been approaching for only one year. Rookie....lol

JP is a troll. All he does is make ridiculous generalizations about countries and cultures that he knows nothing about. "Women in Timbuktu are submissive because they were raped by Mongol hordes 850 years ago". Stuff like that.

 

[Don of the north]

Going back to the OP/original post. I did a quick search and this story is not being covered on Wheat-Waffles, IncelTV, BPJ, or any other incel channels. You have to register on Reddit itself if you want to see this content and I can't see this on a google search "arms broken approaching women". I'd expect allot more coverage for a story of that magnatude. The only source of this on that reddit thread?

Yeah good point. I'm wondering if he's exaggerating about the arms being broken. Maybe they just shoved him and fell on his arm. That part of it doesn't sound believable. Where's the police report of this? It's really off the wall. It takes MAJOR force to break someones arm and you can do permanent nerve damage with that and cripple the guy. It's horrific. A bunch of guys are going to risk major felonies and major jail time because some guy said hello to some chicks and by that point, they knew he was just some pickup artist guy approaching almost entirely adult woman. It's far fetched one in a million type of thing. But he's definitely real because james tusk confirmed it so the police stuff happened, but the arms I'm not so sure. Breaking arms with weapons is also kind of a weird thing to do. They'd probably just punch him. This isn't the mafia.

 

[corrector]

Exactly. Its good to always fact-check these stories first, wait for it to circulate more on social media, because when you are taking a stand about an issue that's counter-maintstream or even how other voices are on here, it's important to be factually accurate. If his arms were not broken or if it was some minor type of thing, just a bit worst than what you experienced, then its not really that bad and becomes sensationalism.

However, given the ugly responses you got, and that's assuming the statements were true, I guess it doesn't matter here since people still blame the victim and have to virtue signal to protect their sense of privilege.

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

JP is a troll. All he does is make ridiculous generalizations about countries and cultures that he knows nothing about. "Women in Timbuktu are submissive because they were raped by Mongol hordes 850 years ago". Stuff like that.

^^^ never posted one field report in his entire time here, spends most of it talking politics, makes everything a petty personal grudge, gets the nerve to tell me to not go out and talk to women on weekends, backs off when I ask him what exactly constitutes a better use of a man's time (throws around the "family" card), and then calls me a troll

Go back to asking Alex Jones for life advice you buffoon

 

[Jesse Pinkman]

Clearing things up OP, I have nothing against you and noticed that in my field reports thread you even tried to help out given my recent health worries. However, I want you to hear me out. I have felt the way you feel and I have held the views you hold. I strongly consider you to see both sides to this. On one hand, it does suck to see men go through what they do and it does suck to see how much the market is rigged. I attribute a lot of this to male thirst and SIMPs fueling the egos of crappy women who do not get called out on their behavior. However, in my time being out there and approaching, I have noticed that there are some awful, sleazy, scummy, and worthless men that get into game.

Most of the dudes that get into game are not innocent angels but rather guys with bad intentions or selfish attitudes. I have been burned by wings who I thought were helpless victims with us being against the totalitarian society. However, I would urge you to consider that a lot of these men you are trying to defend will throw you under the bus if a girl even showed them promises of sex. See both sides here OP, see both sides.