Aaron Clarey: Women Would Choose Extinction Over Beta Males

[BergischerLöwe]

*warning!!!tough love and possible beef incoming!!!*

Apparently I'm the only one who can't read this bs thread due to your moaning and complaining. God damn your annoying at times bro.

You REFUSE to approach lol.

Yet you are here complaining you get bad results. People are actually really nive to you, I'd be and will be much ,much harder on you bro ...i HATE excuses and victimization of one self.

You are unaware of how dating apps work? Its NOT MADE TO DATE SINCERELY BUT TO MILK YOU DRY FINANCIALLY! C'mon bruh...you wanna sit in your underwear at home while you ain't doing shyte due to your trust fund and then complain life brings you nothing...gtfo.


You'll probably get mad, get personal and agrue back and forth with me and somehow make this about me. Instead of simply admitting that you are a lazy man who wants things the easiest way and most risk free way possible , one who always picks the path of least resistance .

Perhaps those "inferior men" actually make shyte happen, do things they enjoy and project that energy into the world. Perhaps they tale risks, talk to women and work on their social skills and mouthpieces.Thats ATTRACTIVE magnetic energy. A man who went from zero to 10 is happier than a man who got 20 without putting in any effort.

I am giving you tough love,because you are bytching like a damn woman but you refuse to take manly steps to improve and uou shootdown EVERY DAMN SOLUTION. Lifting some weights isn't enough, as you can tell now..

You refuse every option giving to you.
- approach
-post pictures( wipe out your face like anyone will know who you are)
- stop defining insanity by doing what you did but expecting different results
-get off your lazy azz and make something happen
-stop focusing on other men you dont know and stop being so damn judgmental
- get of your high horse, put some respect on other men instead of yelling your are btter looking yadiya . If you were you would have better results.

Now I am curious how you'll take this post. Like a bytch, or like a man who wants to improve. Whatever you wanna do I am ready for both.

I mean I do want to improve but everything is overwhelming and there's a lot working against me. I apologize if I come across as annoying, I'm just really frustrated. It's not my intention to shoot down potential solutions, even if it may appear that way to you. I sincerely believe I have no good option

 

[CornbreadFed]

I tried the vertical diet for a while and it kinda worked, but since then I've almost entirely stopped eating meat for religious reasons. Most of the protein that I get comes from milk and dairy, which is good except for the fact that vegetarian protein sources tend to have more carbs and are more calorie dense. I still occasionally eat meat but consuming it tends to be discouraged in my religion, and I don't eat beef since my religion explicitly prohibits it. Like I said I have lost fat recently, and I like my "dairy and vegetables" diet, but I still need to adjust it a bit. Earlier this year I gained some weight and fat but it was mainly because I was drinking too many protein shakes and eating concentrated carbs, so I cut both of those out.

Oh I forgot, you are that white hindu guy. If you are going to keep that mindset, your only option is to go for SJW white women or whitewashed minorities. If you don't like your optimal demographic, then change your habits

 

[Gamisch]

I mean I do want to improve but everything is overwhelming and there's a lot working against me. I apologize if I come across as annoying, I'm just really frustrated. It's not my intention to shoot down potential solutions, even if it may appear that way to you. I sincerely believe I have no good option

Oke kudos for your response. That is a great first step towards recovery.

There are plenty of options for you. First one get off the damn dating apps!!( dont delete them as it might feck up your algorithm, but leave them for lets say a month).

Start APPROACHING women. Period. Start talking to them in REAL life.

Take responsibility. You are spoiled and you aren't desperate enough yet , apparently.

Whatcha got to lose??? Get out and do as I say and you'll get the results you long for so bad.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Oh I forgot, you are that white hindu guy. If you are going to keep that mindset, your only option is to go for SJW white women or whitewashed minorities. If you don't like your optimal demographic, then change your habits

I don't associate with SJWs, and and SJWism and New Agesim have no place in Hinduism in all actuality. Fortunately the SJW and New Age types are more drawn to Buddhism since Buddhists don't believe in God. In the religious circles I frequent there are no SJWs, but there aren't any dateable women either

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

but there aren't any dateable women either

There are no dateable women? Or women you think you should be able to have?

 

[BergischerLöwe]

Oke kudos for your response. That is a great first step towards recovery.

There are plenty of options for you. First kne get iff the damn dating apps!!( dont delete them as it might feck up your algorithm, but leave them for lets say a month).

Start APPROACHING women. Period. Start talking to them in REAL life.

Take responsibility. You are spoiled and you aren't desperate enough yet , apparently.

Whatcha got to lose??? Get out and do as I say and you'll get the results you long for so bad.

Bro I'm telling you cold approach won't work for someone like me. If you knew me irl you would understand. I wish there was an alternative to cold approach that I could actually use. There's no way I'd be able to get good at something like that. I'm a natural introvert and I have a very strong sense of shame and embarrassment when I do something wrong. So that means I'd have to practically force myself to approach women, and if I mess up the embarrassment will crush me. Meeting women is supposed to be fun, and there's no way such methods would be fun and natural to me. Women don't want me to bother them like that, that's all I'd be actually doing

 

[CornbreadFed]

I don't associate with SJWs, and and SJWism and New Agesim have no place in Hinduism in all actuality. Fortunately the SJW and New Age types are more drawn to Buddhism since Buddhists don't believe in God. In the religious circles I frequent there are no SJWs, but there aren't any dateable women either

then you are screwed lol. Why would a Republican Christian meat eating female date a white Hindu over a typical white guy? I consider myself a left leaning moderate and I have dated a Hindu girl before and I will never do such thing again. The only women that are going to be intrigued by your religion are SjWs tbh.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

There are no dateable women? Or women you think you should be able to have?

With that I mean there are no women who are single and around my age. By dateable I mean women that I could and would date. The only women there when I attend religious lectures are over 40 and married

 

[BergischerLöwe]

then you are screwed lol. Why would a Republican Christian meat eating female date a white Hindu over a typical white guy? I consider myself a left leaning moderate and I have dated a Hindu girl before and I will never do such thing again. The only women that are going to be intrigued by your religion are SjWs tbh.

If there's SJWs intrigued by Hinduism, then they know nothing of what Hinduism is all about, and they don't deserve to know. Real Hindus want to put a stop to stupid leftists trying to shoehorn new age mindset into Hindusim. I'm not looking for a Republican Christian woman either. Like I said I'm so niche that almost all women have nothing in common with me

 

[Gamisch]

Bro I'm telling you cold approach won't work for someone like me. If you knew me irl you would understand. I wish there was an alternative to cold approach that I could actually use. There's no way I'd be able to get good at something like that. I'm a natural introvert and I have a very strong sense of shame and embarrassment when I do something wrong. So that means I'd have to practically force myself to approach women, and if I mess up the embarrassment will crush me. Meeting women is supposed to be fun, and there's no way such methods would be fun and natural to me. Women don't want me to bother them like that, that's all I'd be actually doing

Whats the difference between me ,the mythical Chad thunder c0ck and you who approach the same woman by saying the infamous words "HI MAM'"?

I'll "beat" the blackpill outta ya boi...I won't accept such answers. Not today. Today and forward you're going to do shyte different bruh.

S.L.A.T.H (stop lusting after these h***)

Stop Lusting After These H0es = SLATH Is what I'm telling my self while I'm on my journey of sexual discipline and self improvement. I REFUSE to facilitate women's shytty attitude and behavior any longer. I'll only "lust" after one after she lusts after me...and yes ofcourse I'm doing all I...

www.sosuave.net

Its for men like YOU why i make these "vague" threads.

Why don't you go for a bigger purpose in life than just chasing p00sy?? You got the fundamentals to make either your own or other people's dreams come true. Why dont you focus on adding value to this world?

Feck these stupid azz h0es. Get a bigger goal.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

You are most likely shooting well above your rank brother, improve yourself however you can, become your own worst critic and fix the areas of your life that need it, you’ve been asked many rhetorical questions and many direct ones you have not chosen to answer.
The first step in improving is being self aware and realistic in your goals.

With that I mean there are no women who are single and around my age. By dateable I mean women that I could and would date. The only women there when I attend religious lectures are over 40 and married

 

[needimprovement250]

I like Aaron’s content. I saw this video of his the other day that I thought was a good take, he talks about how taking a girl out for dinner and a movie is a thing of the past in the modern dating scene. And I gotta say that I agree with him because in the present day with OLD, women have a never ending selection of men to choose from and its so easy for them to just agree to a date with a man that they have no interest in to just use him as a meal/drink ticket and then never see him again. She might not even stick around for the movie part of the date since she got her free food and instead just make an excuse to end the date early before going to the movies and then ghost the guy. This is why Aaron said that today, men have to be cheaper and buy nothing more than a cup of coffee early on and save dinner and a movie until you get further with a girl to where you know she wants to keep seeing you. It does seem like most guys have been doing that in today’s dating scene and it does prevent you from being a meal/drink ticket and allows you to more easily filter out women who want to use you for that.

 

[BadBoy89]

I think the distinction is women won't mate with a beta. I suspect many women will date betas because they want to have the control over them for narcissistic supply.

+1. Excellent point.

This is the problem, the mating. When women mate with the Alpha male quickly and don't mate with the Beta male unless certain conditions are met, everything gets thrown out of wack. Betas get angry because the women are not virgins and won't put out quickly like they did for the Alphas when they were younger and hotter, women get angry the Alpha's are gone and Betas refuse to commit because of the woman's sexual past.

Nothing will change unless the laws change and you take back the rights you gave women. Good luck with that happening.

 

[Solomon]

How do you know they're never complaining or having negative feelings towards women? Even pro athletes and rappers ect complain about dating.

How do you know they never read about game? Imo that's bs, to believe such statements by default. Before the internet game was thaught in the barbershop ect. EVERY man has his channels where he talks and learns about game.

The trick is to make it LOOK effortless..

I've hung around professional athletes and the stuff they complain about women is not the same stuff that average guys complain about. Average guys complain about flaking and girls not texting them back. Athletes complain about girls being needy and not wanting to have 3somes

 

[Gamisch]

OP you want sex? Dm me. In my region you can feck for 30/40 euros a pop, hb6 and up. Fly to this place with a thousand bucks on standby and...you can feck 25 pretty women..

Then your dkck is empty, you get a "respectable notch count " ,and you can start chasing bigger goals in life.

I've hung around professional athletes and the stuff they complain about women is not the same stuff that average guys complain about. Average guys complain about flaking and girls not texting them back. Athletes complain about girls being needy and not wanting to have 3somes

That does makes sense. Yet there was a video going viral from a pro athlete saying what everyone is saying; these h0es aint loyal.


You make it look like every pro athlete is a player who doesn't wants to build a family/legacy. Thats simply NOT true.

Soon as ANY man needs loyalty from women he'll struggle like the next man. Just facts.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

ForcedToShareRoomMaxxing?

Just don't fart

 

[CornbreadFed]

If there's SJWs intrigued by Hinduism, then they know nothing of what Hinduism is all about, and they don't deserve to know. Real Hindus want to put a stop to stupid leftists trying to shoehorn new age mindset into Hindusim. I'm not looking for a Republican Christian woman either. Like I said I'm so niche that almost all women have nothing in common with me

Everything makes sense now lol. Op, you are an incel. That is your major problem with women. You need some incel rehab.

 

[SW15]

The phenomenon of attractive women going out with these beta nerdy pipsqueak guys really doesn't make any sense no matter how I look at it. I don't think I'm overestimating my attractiveness either

This can happen. My photos all rated between 6.8 and 7.4 on Photofeeler. I am an upper range normie. I have good hair.

There was one woman that I had a first date with as a result of a swipe app. It was a "one date, no sex, no second date" type interaction. I did want to see her again. She didn't reply to a text.

I did check her Instagram after the fact and found out she ended up in an LTR with a soy-ish looking, balding beta male. She also has posted some hardcore SJW stuff on her Instagram, including many pro-BLM messages. It seems like I didn't miss anything there.

I could be quite offended and insulted by that occurrence but I ignore it and laugh it off. I would not have been a good fit for a hardcore SJW and pro-BLM White woman.

I don’t do online dating anymore but when I did I actually got decent matches. I do notice what you’re talking about though.

You had a lot of crap interactions too. Although it seems like you had fewer "one date, no sex, no second date" interactions in which you wanted to see the woman again, you seemed to have more 2-3 date, no sex type interactions. You have made the correct choice in avoiding online dating. Most normie range males are better off by not using swipe apps or sending DMs on Instagram.

keep in mind that the women who are online dating are the ones that nobody else wants. So you’ll be double frustrated.

This is mostly true. The most desirable women can arrange dates and find relationships without using a tech-based method. With later Millennials and Gen Z, social skills are quite impaired so more and more of them have resorted to the tech-based methods. Instagram is considered less sketch than Tinder/Bumble/Hitch.

The frustration you describe is real.

Most women settle... I don’t find many single 40 something females saying f the beta male... I’m dying alone.

they will marry the beta... play house with the beta... post pictures all over social media with the beta... and if the opportunity presents itself to branch swing even a mm up the tree they will take it. Then blame the beta for everything and society will side with her.

Feminism has been telling women to "Never Settle!" since the 1970s. Most of the Baby Boomer generation got that message, all Gen X and Millennial females got that message, and Gen Z is now starting to get that message.

Most Boomer women ended up settling for the beta male. Unlike subsequent generations, a lot of Boomer women were at least somewhat content settling for the beta male.

More Gen X'ers and Millennials have taken "Never Settle!" to heart, though most have ended up settling. In the next 5-10 years, there are going to be more and more women turning 40 who are never married and childless. Are they going to settle? Women turning 40 right now are Millennials. Millennials have the reputation of thinking of themselves as special snowflakes.

You're correct about what happens when Gen X and Millennial women marry the beta. Unlike Boomer women who could at least be somewhat content with their betas, Gen X and Millennial women have been more prone to monkey branch from their betas even after hyping their family lives on social media.

Every single girl I’ve ever dated has hit me up at some point.... and asked to meet up and catch up. They were all married... i never took them up on it but am pretty sure that’s the norm in today’s society.

I guess they had you in an Oort Cloud orbit. Now that I think about it, a friend of mine was getting a lot of "2nd chance" setups with women that had been set up with him many years later, and they were all divorcees by then. He considered the ones that had kids to be booty calls (until the chicks figured out he wasn't budging), and the ones that were still childless to be truly dateable; he ended up marrying one of the latter.

I have not had the experience of women hitting me up later for the most part. I think most of this has to do with my relocations. I'm not the same places as where I attended high school and college. I think men that are geographically fixed in the same area for a longer time tend to experience this more.

Also, Oort Cloud? Top tier guys who get laid never talk about Oort Clouds.

I'm not looking for a Republican Christian woman either.

That's a tough niche to find in most big US metro areas. Most Millennial women have been moderate to liberal and a declining number have been practitioners of Christian (both Protestant and Catholic) religions. It doesn't seem like Gen Z is going to be much different on that.

Over the last 15-20 years, most women I've run into have been occasional at most church attendees and moderate to liberal on their political philosophy.

I saw far more women on apps say "Swipe left if conservative" than express any sort of right wing political ideology.

I said I'm so niche that almost all women have nothing in common with me

That's amazing. Is that because your city is too small for your niche? It's difficult to imagine someone so niche like that but it is possible.

I saw this video of his the other day that I thought was a good take, he talks about how taking a girl out for dinner and a movie is a thing of the past in the modern dating scene. And I gotta say that I agree with him because in the present day with OLD, women have a never ending selection of men to choose from and its so easy for them to just agree to a date with a man that they have no interest in to just use him as a meal/drink ticket and then never see him again. She might not even stick around for the movie part of the date since she got her free food and instead just make an excuse to end the date early before going to the movies and then ghost the guy. This is why Aaron said that today, men have to be cheaper and buy nothing more than a cup of coffee early on and save dinner and a movie until you get further with a girl to where you know she wants to keep seeing you. It does seem like most guys have been doing that in today’s dating scene and it does prevent you from being a meal/drink ticket and allows you to more easily filter out women who want to use you for that.

I keep thinking that the dinner in a restaurant, early stage date is dead in 2023. I started reading in the early 2010s how about early stage dinner dates in restaurants were a bad idea and stopped doing them. I wasn't on the forefront of this idea. However, I still hear about men on swipe apps using dinner in restaurants first dates.

Men have to do inexpensive first dates, but coffee is a bad date. Most coffee dates are neutral because coffee shops are not conducive to escalation. When a woman has a neutral time, there is no second date. Alcoholic drinks in bars are a better idea than coffee. Bars and alcohol can help with escalation, even 1-2 drinks. Going over 2 drinks on a first date isn't that good of an idea for a lot of reasons. Men can still lose a lot of money doing drinks-only in bars dates.

No dinner dates in restaurants prior to sex is a very good idea. Dinner dates are better for established couples.

As for the movie theater, it's a holdover from another era. TV set technology has improved a lot in the last 20 years, so the home viewing experience is better than it was with tube TV sets, VCRs, and movie rental stores in the 1980s-1990s. Netflix's original DVD by mail feature was better than movie theaters and TV set technology was starting to get better then. Streaming has been the evolution of the DVD/Blu-ray by mail concept. The combination of better home hardware technology and better content delivery (discs then streaming) makes the movie theater obsolete.

Netflix & chill > any movie theater date in the past

Movie theater dates in the late 20th century and even into the 2000s were overrated dates. It was both silent and public, which is a bad combination. The older guys on this forum might have gone on more movie theater dates a long time ago. I doubt anyone on this forum would give good feedback about them.

The death of the dinner date

Online daters are too busy or too cheap to eat out when they first meet.

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[SW15]

I've hung around professional athletes and the stuff they complain about women is not the same stuff that average guys complain about. Average guys complain about flaking and girls not texting them back. Athletes complain about girls being needy and not wanting to have 3somes

The stereotype of the clingy woman is not applicable for most men. Most normie range men do not experience female clinginess at all.

Pro athletes and some other top tier men are more likely to experience female clinginess.

Getting a threesome is easier for a pro athlete or another kind of top tier man. Normies are often less concerned about getting threesome though some normies desire them.

 

[CornbreadFed]

The stereotype of the clingy woman is not applicable for most men. Most normie range men do not experience female clinginess at all.

Pro athletes and some other top tier men are more likely to experience female clinginess.

Getting a threesome is easier for a pro athlete or another kind of top tier man. Normies are often less concerned about getting threesome though some normies desire them.

I have been in 4 threesomes and they are overrated IMHO.