Aaron Clarey: Women Would Choose Extinction Over Beta Males

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I just noticed that you said you could lose a bit of bodyfat. Try aiming for 10% BF since you are single.
I don't think 10% is attainable in my case. Between 15 and 18 percent is more attainable and realistic, I don't think there's ever been a time in my life when my bodyfat percentage was under 20 percent. I would have to starve myself for a really long time to reach 10% and there's no way I could sustain that low of a percentage
 

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I don't think 10% is attainable in my case. Between 15 and 18 percent is more attainable and realistic, I don't think there's ever been a time in my life when my bodyfat percentage was under 20 percent. I would have to starve myself for a really long time to reach 10% and there's no way I could sustain that low of a percentage
Eat less calories-

You can either do this by Internment Fasting, converting to the anabolic diet (eating lower calorie foods in high volumes), or eating as clean as possible.
 

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Eat less calories-

You can either do this by Internment Fasting, converting to the anabolic diet (eating lower calorie foods in high volumes), or eating as clean as possible.
I'm eating clean and I haven't eaten as many calories these past few months. Also I've seen some improvement in fat loss since I started going almost everywhere by bicycle instead of by car. Still I have belly fat that I've had all my life and it's always been resistant to my efforts. In the past whenever I lost weight I would lose pounds, but not inches, and the same deficits in my physique haven't budged. Lately I've gained a few pounds but I've lost fat, idk why. Sometimes I think the only way to get rid of that stubborn fat once and for all is get liposuction or something. Honestly I believe that even if I got down to 15% bodyfat and was really jacked I would still have the problems with meeting women that I've talked about. I would be more attractive, but in the same situation. At the end of the day girls don't care if you lift
 

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I'm eating clean and I haven't eaten as many calories these past few months. Also I've seen some improvement in fat loss since I started going almost everywhere by bicycle instead of by car. Still I have belly fat that I've had all my life and it's always been resistant to my efforts. In the past whenever I lost weight I would lose pounds, but not inches, and the same deficits in my physique haven't budged. Lately I've gained a few pounds but I've lost fat, idk why. Sometimes I think the only way to get rid of that stubborn fat once and for all is get liposuction or something. Honestly I believe that even if I got down to 15% bodyfat and was really jacked I would still have the problems with meeting women that I've talked about. I would be more attractive, but in the same situation. At the end of the day girls don't care if you lift
I was 25-30% bodyfat because I just ate a lot, but I was buff though. It took me like 3-4 years to get to 10% with a lot of adaptations and mess-ups on the way. OLD started becoming easier once I hit 16% BF. I say 10% because once you start dating you will go up a few points.
 

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I was 25-30% bodyfat because I just ate a lot, but I was buff though. It took me like 3-4 years to get to 10% with a lot of adaptations and mess-ups on the way. OLD started becoming easier once I hit 16% BF. I say 10% because once you start dating you will go up a few points.
I'd say right now I'm about 25-27 percent. How did you go about getting that low? I'd say my goal should be 15 percent
 

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Most women settle... I don’t find many single 40 something females saying f the beta male... I’m dying alone.

they will marry the beta... play house with the beta... post pictures all over social media with the beta... and if the opportunity presents itself to branch swing even a mm up the tree they will take it. Then blame the beta for everything and society will side with her.

Every single girl I’ve ever dated has hit me up at some point.... and asked to meet up and catch up. They were all married... i never took them up on it but am pretty sure that’s the norm in today’s society.
I guess they had you in an Oort Cloud orbit. Now that I think about it, a friend of mine was getting a lot of "2nd chance" setups with women that had been set up with him many years later, and they were all divorcees by then. :rolleyes: He considered the ones that had kids to be booty calls (until the chicks figured out he wasn't budging), and the ones that were still childless to be truly dateable; he ended up marrying one of the latter.
 

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I read a study once that said if 2 people are forced to be in a room together for 24 hours, there is a high chance of them having sex, this was in the 90s but I've always carried that sentiment forward.

Women are option-driven, they'll choose what the best option at any given time is, most men have a disdain for this because when we do the same and find a better option, we're led to be disdained by society where as most women would not be or would even be celebrated.

Commitment is a burden for the women with better options in the peripheral; men as well but we can't just flagrantly act upon those options like women can.
ForcedToShareRoomMaxxing?
 

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I started out by doing calories in vs calories out and monitoring my caloric intake.
I have ADHD so I’m unable to really stick to counting calories and having to weigh out portions like that. Any time I’ve tried I’ve fallen off the wagon within a week. I try to not eat concentrated carbs at least, but like I said it’s like my body won’t let me get below 20%. I might actually need liposuction but it’s expensive, invasive, and the thought of getting it makes me feel vain. I’ve at least gotten my activity levels up and even though that’s helped I think there’s a genetic or metabolic cause for why I’m not able to get below 20%
 

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I have ADHD so I’m unable to really stick to counting calories and having to weigh out portions like that. Any time I’ve tried I’ve fallen off the wagon within a week. I try to not eat concentrated carbs at least, but like I said it’s like my body won’t let me get below 20%. I might actually need liposuction but it’s expensive, invasive, and the thought of getting it makes me feel vain. I’ve at least gotten my activity levels up and even though that’s helped I think there’s a genetic or metabolic cause for why I’m not able to get below 20%
This is why you aren't losing weight and I the only food I have ever weighed was ingredients for recipes. I don't even need a calculator anymore and can just estimate the amount of calories in my head. Again, this from several years of doing this, so I would not expect to pick this up right away. I used to think the same thing about the slow metabolism excuse until I realized I ATE a lot and was routinley about it. Your naturally skinny people just don't eat as much consistently as you do.
 

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This is why you aren't losing weight and I the only food I have ever weighed was ingredients for recipes. I don't even need a calculator anymore and can just estimate the amount of calories in my head. Again, this from several years of doing this, so I would not expect to pick this up right away. I used to think the same thing about the slow metabolism excuse until I realized I ATE a lot and was routinley about it. Your naturally skinny people just don't eat as much consistently as you do.
So basically due to my condition I'm fkd?
 

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So basically due to my condition I'm fkd?
No lol because I am a borderline alcoholic, and I can still maintain a decent frame lol. TBH, just do the anabolic diet because you can eat a lot of food and still lose weight. You will have to adjust to the tastes and most women will not like your food though lol. Look up Greg Doucette or Remmington James. This was back in 2018-2020 though so Idk how they are now. I looked like a God off of the Remmington James Diet lol.
 

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This is the part that kills me on this site, before I knew about "Redpill" and these terms, I saw this first hand by going out with Naturals who most would consider "Alphas" on this site but guess what, they never read "The Game" or "Mystery method" never logged on pua website or Redpill website. Matter fact when I use to ask those guys to explain it to me they would just say be confident bro. There are some guys who just figure the shyt out an early age and run on autopilot to the point that it's in their DNA.

Not saying they don't talk about how to get women but a naturals problem isn't "oooh I got flaked on by 3rd girl in a row" their problem is "shyt I got 3 girls that wanna hook up tonight, which one should I pick?" there's levels to this, and the guys who figure it out just understand it is what it is and accept it. Do you think guys who do well with women are complaining about them? hell no lmfao
How do you know they're never complaining or having negative feelings towards women? Even pro athletes and rappers ect complain about dating.

How do you know they never read about game? Imo that's bs, to believe such statements by default. Before the internet game was thaught in the barbershop ect. EVERY man has his channels where he talks and learns about game.

The trick is to make it LOOK effortless..
 
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This has given me a whole new perspective when i read the posts of some users here. Think about it for a second. I’m just marginally pissed that Solomon sorted this out before i did and got it into words…:p

Wow brother WHAT YOU JUST SAID BELOW IS PLATINUM.

For others reading this: stop and read that to yourselves a few times. Either the light bulb will flicker or not.

Thank you Solomon.
 

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I had a super attractive female friend most guys would probably say 9/10 look at my profile once. She immediately deleted 3-4 pics and reduced my profile to 2 sentences. I was like wtf!!?

Her words “you’re giving women too much information, and therefore too many reasons to reject you. We have too many options and are looking for reasons to disqualify you. Carry the mystery, it they’re interested they’ll ask.”

Easily the best OLD advice I’ve ever gotten.

Being useful here, @BergischerLöwe would have to restart his profile to reset his ELO, make it as *broadly* attractive as possible, and then niche it down (change back to the old bio/pics) once his new ELO (or whatever algo the app uses) is established.
 
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No lol because I am a borderline alcoholic, and I can still maintain a decent frame lol. TBH, just do the anabolic diet because you can eat a lot of food and still lose weight. You will have to adjust to the tastes and most women will not like your food though lol. Look up Greg Doucette or Remmington James. This was back in 2018-2020 though so Idk how they are now. I looked like a God off of the Remmington James Diet lol.
I tried the vertical diet for a while and it kinda worked, but since then I've almost entirely stopped eating meat for religious reasons. Most of the protein that I get comes from milk and dairy, which is good except for the fact that vegetarian protein sources tend to have more carbs and are more calorie dense. I still occasionally eat meat but consuming it tends to be discouraged in my religion, and I don't eat beef since my religion explicitly prohibits it. Like I said I have lost fat recently, and I like my "dairy and vegetables" diet, but I still need to adjust it a bit. Earlier this year I gained some weight and fat but it was mainly because I was drinking too many protein shakes and eating concentrated carbs, so I cut both of those out.
 

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So how can I find more attractive women that I can actually date? Mind you I'm not going for instagram models. I'm fine with girls that are a seven in the face, not fat, and with a nice rack. But it seems like most of the women who want anything to do with me are a tier below me in looks. Maybe they perceive me as more attainable for some reason?
*warning!!!tough love and possible beef incoming!!!*

Apparently I'm the only one who can't read this bs thread due to your moaning and complaining. God damn your annoying at times bro.

You REFUSE to approach lol.

Yet you are here complaining you get bad results. People are actually really nive to you, I'd be and will be much ,much harder on you bro ...i HATE excuses and victimization of one self.

You are unaware of how dating apps work? Its NOT MADE TO DATE SINCERELY BUT TO MILK YOU DRY FINANCIALLY! C'mon bruh...you wanna sit in your underwear at home while you ain't doing shyte due to your trust fund and then complain life brings you nothing...gtfo.


You'll probably get mad, get personal and agrue back and forth with me and somehow make this about me. Instead of simply admitting that you are a lazy man who wants things the easiest way and most risk free way possible , one who always picks the path of least resistance .

Perhaps those "inferior men" actually make shyte happen, do things they enjoy and project that energy into the world. Perhaps they tale risks, talk to women and work on their social skills and mouthpieces.Thats ATTRACTIVE magnetic energy. A man who went from zero to 10 is happier than a man who got 20 without putting in any effort.

I am giving you tough love,because you are bytching like a damn woman but you refuse to take manly steps to improve and uou shootdown EVERY DAMN SOLUTION. Lifting some weights isn't enough, as you can tell now..

You refuse every option giving to you.
- approach
-post pictures( wipe out your face like anyone will know who you are)
- stop defining insanity by doing what you did but expecting different results
-get off your lazy azz and make something happen
-stop focusing on other men you dont know and stop being so damn judgmental
- get of your high horse, put some respect on other men instead of yelling your are btter looking yadiya . If you were you would have better results.

Now I am curious how you'll take this post. Like a bytch, or like a man who wants to improve. Whatever you wanna do I am ready for both.
 
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