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Interceptor said:
What is intriguing to me is that you knew him 3 years PIOR to your Marriage.
You also stated that you 'left your country with him."

You knew what you were doing, Frustrada.
That's ok, perhaps there were little to no options in your country.

You must look back and be responsible for your actions. Assume your side of the deal , your responsibility.
This is the mature thing to do.

I will say that if there is not Love, or at the very least , AFFECTION, you have little to work with.Little to inspire you and motivate you.

You need to stop threatening him, but begin to explain how you would like the relationship to be.
Give him clear examples of what woudl make you happy, beyond the material and financial.
Also, if you don't have any hobbies, go and start some. Now.
You cannot rely on another person to be responsible for your happiness and your personal entertainment.
A husband is not a magician and not a clown or stand up comedian.

Your happiness comes from inside you.

You must make peace that you may eventually divorce anyway.
Be prepared , but stay positve and hopeful.

If you at least have some affection and still respect him, you owe it to him.

You need to state to him clearly what your NEEDs are. And state to him that certain NEEDs are not being met.

And he does need to understand your needs as a Wife.

Give him the opportunity, not an ultimatum.

You can't just say :Change ! Or I'll divorce you!"

Encourage him to work on addressing what you want out of the relationship, and encourage him and motivate him to move ahead in this way.
It is ok to compliment him on what he does right for you.And it is important to be thankful and appreciative of him and the material things he gives you.

But truth be told, you knew what you were getting into.
Let's not kid ourselves.
It didn't work out that way, now you have resentment and bitterness that you project onto him, when you shoudl be looking at yourself too.
You could talk to him about Masculinity, an what it means to you.
You could direct him to this site.
Give him books to read, and give him opportunites to explore himself and masculinty, and give him a chance to experiment in finding himself as a Man, and feel good that he will be encouraged and supported by you.
Talk to him and encourage him for change, positive change that will benefit you and him.

You must be mature about this, and while you should assert what you want , you cannot do this in a Win/Lose manner.
Show him how it will benefit the both of you, how you can both get what you want. and have a happy marriage together, and make it work and LAST.
Also, remember that men also disconnect emotionally and intimately when their partners constantly Nag and never give praise or appreciation.
Men hate coming home to women who nag, Eveantually men just shut off and tune them out.
And this makes women even more mad, and they nag even more and demand even more time and attention.
Sometimes women go up to their partner while he may be busy and immediatley demand his attention, but he cannot devote his time and attention 100% and this only 'reconfirms" the woman's negative attitude "You see, I know you never listen to me or pay me any attention."
But they approach their men in inopportune times, and don't respect the man's time or whatever activity he may be doing.


So think of the things that you are personally doing wrong, and get straight to the point in examining the ways in which you sabotage the relationship and affect his confidence and intimacy.


Start like this first, before projecting any failure or imagining that he won't do it.
Thank you very much for your advice,
You really have a point there, I know I should help him , and do all you said above, and must of all, look at myself.
I have not experiment a lot with men since I just had one boyfriend before him and then I have been with him all the time.
Then, for me , he has flaws, and when I talk to him about it he gets angry and dose not recognize any and tells me all my flaws, I try to work on mines, I think he dose not.
There is another guy who has asked me out several times and I refused because I am married, But I wish I could said yes he looks interested in me , my husband, does not
 

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make him read "the book of pook" like as someone said on the first page. Do It. He should learn how to be a man.
 

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micon said:
make him read "the book of pook" like as someone said on the first page. Do It. He should learn how to be a man.
ahahha he might start cheating on her...
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Why would you want another man's throwaway? Regardless whether or not she's unhappy you shouldn't play in his yard. You could get your ass shot and it leads you to immature boy-man living.
Yeah I'm facing this temptation right now. At first I just said "hell no I won't do that". I asked my friends, just to see if I'm behind the times. They say "always take it as far as you can". No one seems to think marriage means much anymore. It's almost looked at as living together. The way I hear my friends talk about what their married female co-workers do to them, and for them, makes me wonder if I'm missing out. What's the point if the woman is throwing herself at you. You're supposed to turn that down?

I guess it's not the mature thing though.
 

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Prodigy746 said:
ahahha he might start cheating on her...
hahah it might be. but at least he would discover what being a man is..

another recommendation to her is make him read the post "Gav's Guide to Motivation". maybe it will encourage him to be ambitious in life and make him try to win or earn something and have a target in life..
 

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j0n024 said:
I totally agree with gorgon....he's providing you with everything and you dont "Love" him...how pathetic on your part. The only way I see you actually making it on your own.......well I dont think you'll be able to, you will probably move back in with your parents or divorce him and steal half his sh1t dont feel bad it's a womens way.
But on topic...maybe you should see what's important in your life.....have everything given to you or one night of d1ck your choice. Plus you just made everything I thought about women true...Like a famous comedian said "No respect...No respect at all."
If she is a typical woman, she will take the dcik.
 

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frustrada said:
I fear leaving him at my age since this is the only man I have been with in my life. I am not fat, nor ugly. Now here where I am guys ask me out, but i have to decline (sadly) i though it was that i like one of the guys who asked me out, but not, this has been depressing for several years now.

Thanks:(
yeeahhh...looks like were going to have to see a pic to prove that..
 

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frustrada said:
Thank you very much for your advice,
You really have a point there, I know I should help him , and do all you said above, and must of all, look at myself.
I have not experiment a lot with men since I just had one boyfriend before him and then I have been with him all the time.
Then, for me , he has flaws, and when I talk to him about it he gets angry and dose not recognize any and tells me all my flaws, I try to work on mines, I think he dose not.
There is another guy who has asked me out several times and I refused because I am married, But I wish I could said yes he looks interested in me , my husband, does not
This is what happens what you rush "marriage".
 

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I haven't read anyone elses posts, but i think you should leave him right now.

this has been depressing for several years now.
...and will for many years to come, unless you actually take charge and leave him. Sure he'll be very upset about it, but you sound upset about being with him, your happiness comes first so don't put this off any longer. Good luck.
 

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Hey Iqqi,
good point, and couple other things ive noticed:

1. These guys are blaming and judging women simply for being women, and
2. lol it seems to me like guys who are most chump-ish are ALSO most misogynistic. Minus the boriqua (LMS) cuz he's prolly been around b/c his age.
 

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Look, I don't care if you leave this guy or stay with him. Whatever you do, don't live in his house and benefit from his money while cheating on him. Over the past few years my morals have degraded but not to the point where I'd consider that acceptable behavior.
 

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This broad still hasn't explained SPECIFICALLY what wussy actions her man has taken -- except for giving her flowers. This story is not particularly consistent. First, the husband was a "lazy" AFC who provides for her. Now he is an obnoxious, flawed jerk who leeches off the money that she makes and refuses to care for her grievances. Which is it?

Give us some specific examples of your problems. Right now your whining is way too unspecific to substantiate.
 

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DonGorgon said:
LOL... men who do that always get screwed over by women cause women dont appreciate good treatment... They consider a man who treats them like that to be lame week etc... but they have an inexplicable attraction to the jerk who dissrespects them till they cry...LOL Good luck...
This is what you guys do not understand about women. The man is not treating her good, because if he was treating her good, she would be happy. You are looking at being happy from your perspective when deciding what should be done to make her happy. You cannot be so egocentric in seduction/relationships.

She doesn't get treated how she wants to be treated, she does not feel how she wants to feel. Is she supposed to suck it up and endure a crappy relationship because he put food on the table and keeps her in good clothes? Like Western Philosophies, you guys overemphasize the rational and overlook the emotional and misconstrue the human experience.
 

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Come to Tennessee we both will go to the barn and sit on bails of hay and talk this over and make it right for you oh heres some :flowers: I think I am in love.

Just kidding of coarse.

LoneSilver :wave:
 
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Divore him. What's the big deal? You r still young and can find other men. Truth is though there are men to have fun with and men to marry. ANd honestly it works both ways. I get laid pretty regullary because the girls think that i'm such a fun guy to be around (or i make them "feel like a woman" -- said by a girl that's about to get married that i slept with 2 weeks ago)... That said i'm not a marriage matterial. I get bored easily (with girls too). I can be uber sensitive and make u feel like an 8th wonder of the world but i can be also very distant and not give a rat's ass about how u feel. In that sense i don't present any stability.

There is no in between. Period. Either accept it and learn to live with all the shorcomings the guy has to offer, or dump his ass looking for exciting guys (but not necessary marriage material).
 

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What's the point if the woman is throwing herself at you. You're supposed to turn that down?

I guess it's not the mature thing though.
It's these times when you have to look inward and decide what is best for YOU. If a slice of pie is there for the taking and you understand and acknowledge the consequences it's acceptable to indulge.

But know there is quite a distinction between a good time and a long time.
 

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Yeah maybe that's scarcity thinking. I can get single chicks. I can't do to others what I wouldn't want done to me down the road. I can't predict the consequences so it's probably a bad investment. I don't think that's the man I want to be. I don't understand why my buddies would do different but they are them, I'm me.
 

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Microphone Fiend said:
This is what you guys do not understand about women. The man is not treating her good, because if he was treating her good, she would be happy. You are looking at being happy from your perspective when deciding what should be done to make her happy. You cannot be so egocentric in seduction/relationships.

She doesn't get treated how she wants to be treated, she does not feel how she wants to feel. Is she supposed to suck it up and endure a crappy relationship because he put food on the table and keeps her in good clothes? Like Western Philosophies, you guys overemphasize the rational and overlook the emotional and misconstrue the human experience.
You are the one that understands what I am trying to say:cheer:
 
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