A Woman Can't Flake On You; If You Do This...MODE ONE!!! Part 1

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A lion also respects fellow lions to some degree. I bet there are tons of things you could learn from me ,just like I might learn some from you. Do you see the difference ?
I am willing to listen, if you can teach me something I don't know.

As far as I can tell this whole mode 1 thing about being assertive is common sense, but oke.
Common sense aint too common.

You could at least be somewhat realistic and admit that your are tied with both hands because of your marriage and you have THEORIES and IDEAS. I have them too, next right is sparring about them and trying to implement them in REAL LIFE.
You are correct. I am being a good boy now, since my wife has come crawling back to me after I had to render her some tough love.

My experiences come from before I got married, and during our year of separation of which I was COMPLETELY active out there in the field.

Not to mention the choosing signals I've gotten and continue to get, even during present day occurrences.

There is such a thing as nuance. There are millions of ways to formulate that sentence in a different way.

You are just living vicariously through the theory from a datingcoach you admire , one that devolped his theory years ago.
Yeah, and many martial artists day live vicariously through the great Bruce Lee.

Bruce Lee is your favorite martial artist, favorite martial artist.

But that doesn't make the great martial artists of the world any less great of martial artists, just because they were inspired by someone else.

And I hardly ever offer opinions, unless they are opinions based upon facts.

Throughout my tenure on this forum, I've offered FACTS through real life experiences...which is why I get so angry and frown upon those who dare to offer their opinions towards offerings of facts.

The world develops every day and there is no dating coach with all the answers. They all have good and bad sides. just like us members .
I agree. But do you have the qualifications to critique them? Do you have any real life experiences which goes contrary to what they are teaching?

I do.

As far as receipts go mannnnnn". Show and proof. Put your money where your mouth is. Its bs to claim this is the best way to attract or seduce women.
Ya know, I was actually thinking of doing a real, in field report.

Having a hidden camera on me as I did some cold approaching so you guys can see how I get busy.

I still might.

Just for show.

You come across as an extremely stubborn dude.
You people made me this way.
 

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I had a email consultation one time with Alan Roger Currie. I asked him how he would do Mode One in the daytime. He stated he would say this. "When do you want to share each others time one on one?" so in other words he would sub-communicate his intentions. and set a sexual frame to the interaction

I tried sub-communicating it and keeping the conversation very short. It worked very well for me. I am 1 for 1 using that style of game infield. Meaning it worked the first time and only time I ever used it. Shortly after I quit game and never tried it again. Due to just life changes and overrall just becoming more and more unmotivated to do game.

It went something like this:

Me: Excuse me?
(get eye contact from her)
Her: Yes?
Me: You are the hottest women I have ever seen.
Her: Thank you
Me: How about hanging out sometime? (holding eye contact with a calm demeanor)
Her: (with a long pause holding eye contact)(I take a step back as if I am going to walk away) Sure let's hangout some time.

I get her phone number. It was the easiest lay I ever had.

I respect everyone's game here. And have a very open mind to other people styles of game. And would love to here about your indirect style of approaching in more depth. But couldn't help to share this story.
 
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No that's not what I'm about at all Venom, that's an assumption. And an incorrect one.

As I said earlier on a different thread, or may have been this thread, I prefer a man take a few minutes to talk to me, to build rapport so I can determine whether there's more to him than his looks.

Becauae that's what it takes for ME to have sex with a man. An energy, a chemistry that goes beyond just looks.

Even then, I would not fvck a man from the street or whom I just met at the market or wherever.

I'm not into being a fcvk buddy, hell I've never even been a FWB! Lol

I've always been a "relationship girl" and men have respected me for that.



Well, I'm not one to never say never, but our energy/chemistry (beyond looks) would have be something very special and unique for any of those things to happen.

And flipping it around, you make take a look at ME and NOT see me as simply a fvck buddy.

And thus say to yourself "dang, she looks like is a classy chick with style, I'm gonna take some time building rapport and try to get her number, ask her out."

It goes both ways.

Happy New Year! :lol:
Every girl has room in their life for their mistake; they’re bad boy. You included.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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This “mode one” garbage is a horrible idea.
Isn’t it crazy how a man in their late 30’s can be so much in their own bubble? The inability to provide any insightful responses to other forum members should be a red flag to others on here
 

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No that's not what I'm about at all Venom, that's an assumption. And an incorrect one.
Well, that's what I got out of it.

As I said earlier on a different thread, or may have been this thread, I prefer a man take a few minutes to talk to me, to build rapport so I can determine whether there's more to him than his looks.
You already know my stance on that, so no need to beat a dead horse.

Because that's what it takes for ME to have sex with a man. An energy, a chemistry that goes beyond just looks. Which requires conversation and a bit of rapport building.
Then you are incompatible with MOH guys.

Nothing beta or simpish, a brief convo displaying interest. And I'm doing same in response.

Even then, I would not fvck a man from the street or whom I just met at the market or wherever.
Gotcha.

I'm not into being a fcvk buddy, hell I've never even been a FWB! Lol

I've always been a "relationship girl" and men have respected me for that.
Understood.

Well, I'm not one to never say never, but our energy/chemistry (beyond looks) would have to be something very special and unique for any of those things to happen.

And flipping it around, you may take a look at ME and NOT see me as simply a fvck buddy.
Certainly possible.

And thus say to yourself "dang, she looks like is a classy chick with style, I'm gonna take some time and chat with her, try to get her number, ask her out."

It goes both ways.

I mean as ARC said himself and you agreed, he only MOH's women he sees as fvck buddies.

Happy New Year! :lol:
Happy New Year.
 

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I forgot to include this^ in my previous post.

Which is a huge distinction.

1. Women you deem worthy to get to know and possibly date and have relationship with?

2. Or women you view as strictly fvck buddies?
Fuk buddies: Women of whom you do not spend any non sexual time with nor any emotional bonding.

FWB: Women you are sexually active with of whom also share your non sexual attention, yet you also not in committed relationships with.

Ive always been a FWB kind of guy, to say the least.
 

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Oh I used to love bad boys!! And got involved with my fair share.

But a man cold approaching me and telling me before any conversation has been had, that he wants to fvck me is NOT my idea of a bad boy.

YOU strike me as being a bit of a bad boy!
LOL

Reading the text exchanges you shared and specifically the one where you met the 21 year old at a bar and Mode One'd her by saying, "you wanna be bad with me later?" after having a brief conversation with her.

I told you then and will admit now, I found that hilarious and endearing and yes I could see myself falling for that approach at a bar or club.
I’m a house cat
 

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I am willing to listen, if you can teach me something I don't know.



Common sense aint too common.



You are correct. I am being a good boy now, since my wife has come crawling back to me after I had to render her some tough love.

My experiences come from before I got married, and during our year of separation of which I was COMPLETELY active out there in the field.

Not to mention the choosing signals I've gotten and continue to get, even during present day occurrences.



Yeah, and many martial artists day live vicariously through the great Bruce Lee.

Bruce Lee is your favorite martial artist, favorite martial artist.

But that doesn't make the great martial artists of the world any less great of martial artists, just because they were inspired by someone else.

And I hardly ever offer opinions, unless they are opinions based upon facts.

Throughout my tenure on this forum, I've offered FACTS through real life experiences...which is why I get so angry and frown upon those who dare to offer their opinions towards offerings of facts.



I agree. But do you have the qualifications to critique them? Do you have any real life experiences which goes contrary to what they are teaching?

I do.



Ya know, I was actually thinking of doing a real, in field report.

Having a hidden camera on me as I did some cold approaching so you guys can see how I get busy.

I still might.

Just for show.



You people made me this way.
This advice is great for young men(minors) who need to learn how to escalate with women. "Hey stacy wanna kiss?".

You tell men to say to a grown woman (translated).

" hey miss, looking like a cheap hooker, wanna feck? "

The reason why @catsmeow2 is active in this thread is because she'll subconsciously feels the need to go against this( just like women in real life). You activate her biatch shield , she'll put it up instinctively . Like running from a apex predator will trigger a hunt response, she'll trigger her shield response.

Woman: " what makes you think I am a slvt like that ??? What did I do wear, say or anything that makes you think I just met you and I IMMEDIATELY know I wanna feck you and actually will do it???"

I bet that the biggest players with the most abundance of poosy dont operate like this. A Leo d. Carpio doesn't need to say this ahyte to a woman. Yeah , yeah, leo is a unfair example, but the moment he engages in a conversation with a woman ain't much different from you or me doing it. The real player is a smooth operator, one that oozes sexuality.

The moment I APPROACH a woman , let her know I am interested she'll know enough. Just asking her number tell her I wanna feck. Her giving her number confirms she might also wanna feck. No need to go neanderthal and mess up a perhaps otherwise certified "notch " .

Your mode 1 thing is something that happened to me quite a lot when I went to parties a lot. I met and slept with women without properly exchanging names. Or you know, that situation where you introduce yourself and dont even catch her name or forget it 2 seconds later. Little bump and grind , make out session , let's leave this club and "walk " a bit. I also had many women going mode 1 on ME by the way.

Mode 1 might be good to implement for men who struggle to escalate with women. Someting to keep in the back of your mind. NOT going "mode 1 " might make a man end up I a friend zone situation he could avoid by being direct , but ..here we go venom..TIMING is crucial. You might first wanna lure her in to create an opportunity to go mode 1. You can thank later, mate.
 

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Woman: " what makes you think I am a slvt like that ??? What did I do wear, say or anything that makes you think I just met you and I IMMEDIATELY know I wanna feck you???"
While I don't disagree with your post... The same women says "I don't know what came over me, he was so cute and smooth and it just happened!"

Of course women will talk out of one side of their mouths on what makes them look best socially... Then on the other side "it just happened"...
 

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While I don't disagree with your post... The same women says "I don't know what came over me, he was so cute and smooth and it just happened!"

Of course women will talk out of one side of their mouths on what makes them look best socially... Then on the other side "it just happened"...
That's why I said I went out a lot. In that scenery it's more likely something like mode 1 will be just perfect. Lowered inhibitions will help a lot ik that case .

I wouldn't be surprised if MOST women used your line at least once . Just like most of have a story two where it happened to us. But these experiences aren't the norm, nor something you can use a "tactic".

Real life is (most of the time) not a porn movie.
 

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That's why I said I went out a lot. In that scenery it's more likely something like mode 1 will be just perfect. Lowered inhibitions will help a lot ik that case .

I wouldn't be surprised if MOST women used your line at least once . Just like most of have a story two where it happened to us. But these experiences aren't the norm, nor something you can use a "tactic".

Real life is (most of the time) not a porn movie.
My whole point was; take any statements from females on this site with a grain of salt.... They are valuable for knowledge, but one has to know when to read between the lines, and take what's stated at face value.... Like cats previous statement of how women look for a guys' fingernail cleanliness to see whether they can picture his fingers in their vagina.... Take that at face value.
 

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DH, I am trying to picture a scenario wherein a man cold approaches me and immediately launches into how he wants to "bend me over and fvck my ass" (or any variation thereof) before any conversation has been had, like ARC said to the chick at her place of work (or anywhere) could be considered by any woman as "cute and smooth."
My response to him wasn't based on this statement being the precursor.... Just that in general:
I've been very forthright in saying that generally speaking most women don't know what they want most of the time.
Due to your acknowledgement ^^^, you don't know what effect a MOH advance towards you may have at any particular time. So, take what you say about that with a grain of salt.... Because, as you know, coming from the right guy, in the right way at the right time and place, it just may result in you saying "I don't know what came over me. He was so cute and smooth, it just happened".... How can you say otherwise as "most women dont know what they want most of the time."
 

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Because I am not "most" women. And I've done a lot of self-reflection and internal work to not be "most" women.

I also stated before I'm not averse to cold approach and even Mode One.

Just not Mode One Hardcore, I know myself well enough to know I would not respond positively to that.

Take or leave DJ.
Due to being such an alien of a woman, and so different. No point in speaking on behalf of women then. And also, since you're married, and most don juans on the site are not trying to have you as a fvck buddy, gf, or wife, there's no point in speaking about your perspective since they're not representative of women...
 

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DJ, with due respect, before I deactivated my DM feature, I had many men messaging me telling me to continue posting as I bring a lot of value to the forum, a different perspective.

As does @BeExcellent who is also not representative of most women.

I also have 250 likes, out of 310 posts, a ratio larger than many men on this forum.

If you don't find my perspective valuable, I can respect that

In which case SS has an ignore feature, it's quite easy to use.
Since you're a self admitted alien of a woman that's so different, how is your perspective valuable to men looking to fvck any other woman other than you?

I don't believe this to be the case, which is why I say take what any female says on here with a grain of salt, and try to decipher if it's worthy of being accepted at face value.

Like I already stated you do bring value. The fingernails bit was gold in my opinion...
 

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This advice is great for young men(minors) who need to learn how to escalate with women. "Hey stacy wanna kiss?".

You tell men to say to a grown woman (translated).

" hey miss, looking like a cheap hooker, wanna feck? "
Um, no.

No one said anything about the woman "looking like a cheap hooker". You added that in there to boost up your fallacious, non-equivalent argument.

The reason why @catsmeow2 is active in this thread is because she'll subconsciously feels the need to go against this( just like women in real life). You activate her biatch shield , she'll put it up instinctively . Like running from a apex predator will trigger a hunt response, she'll trigger her shield response.
She is entitled to her wrong opinions, just as you are.

Woman: " what makes you think I am a slvt like that ??? What did I do wear, say or anything that makes you think I just met you and I IMMEDIATELY know I wanna feck you and actually will do it???"
If the woman is attracted to you and actually wants to fuk you, then you wouldn't get that kind of response, would you?

No, you won't.

Increase your sexual market value, so that your chances of such harsh responses may be limited.

I bet that the biggest players with the most abundance of poosy dont operate like this.
ARC stated that most men (particularly, dating coaches) don't have the balls to be MOH, which is what ultimately separates him, from THEM.

Second, I can care less how the biggest players with the most abundance of puzzy operate.

As an alpha male (reaching Apex predator status), I stand on my own ten toes.

A Leo d. Carpio doesn't need to say this ahyte to a woman. Yeah , yeah, leo is a unfair example, but the moment he engages in a conversation with a woman ain't much different from you or me doing it. The real player is a smooth operator, one that oozes sexuality.
I agree.

The moment I APPROACH a woman , let her know I am interested she'll know enough. Just asking her number tell her I wanna feck. Her giving her number confirms she might also wanna feck. No need to go neanderthal and mess up a perhaps otherwise certified "notch " .
Keyword: "might".

The woman who gave you her number might be what ARC called a "manipulative timewaster".

He stated that most (mainly indirect game dating coaches) overlook that archetype of a woman.

There are women out there who are timewasters and are bent on using guys for their time, money, or resources.

Getting a woman's number may definitely be a step in the right direction, but you still may be a LONG way from the puzzy.

Most guys who are out there in the field can vouch for this; how many times have you gotten a woman's number, but for some reason or another, never got around to smashing, although you tried?

More than most would like to admit.

That is why, when you go standard Mode One or MOH, you aren't placing yourself in a position to whereas a woman can waste your time/flake on you...which was the point of the entire thread.

Your mode 1 thing is something that happened to me quite a lot when I went to parties a lot. I met and slept with women without properly exchanging names.
Good stuff :up:.

Or you know, that situation where you introduce yourself and dont even catch her name or forget it 2 seconds later. Little bump and grind , make out session , let's leave this club and "walk " a bit. I also had many women going mode 1 on ME by the way.
Again, good stuff :up:.

Now, here is a challenge...try to get that same kind of attention from women when you aren't in those environments.

I've also had my club successes, and they are great.

But when you've found yourself in the skins of a woman of whom you just met at a grocery store or library, without alcohol, music, or dancing involved...you might appreciate it much more.

Mode 1 might be good to implement for men who struggle to escalate with women.
So if they are scared to escalate with a woman, why in the hell would they have the balls to go Mode One?

Makes no sense.

Someting to keep in the back of your mind. NOT going "mode 1 " might make a man end up I a friend zone situation he could avoid by being direct , but ..here we go venom..TIMING is crucial. You might first wanna lure her in to create an opportunity to go mode 1. You can thank later, mate.
Yeah, thanks for nothing.
 
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