A Woman Can't Flake On You; If You Do This...MODE ONE!!! Part 1

[Divorced w 3]

No that's not what I'm about at all Venom, that's an assumption. And an incorrect one.

As I said earlier on a different thread, or may have been this thread, I prefer a man take a few minutes to talk to me, to build rapport so I can determine whether there's more to him than his looks.

Becauae that's what it takes for ME to have sex with a man. An energy, a chemistry that goes beyond just looks.

Even then, I would not fvck a man from the street or whom I just met at the market or wherever.

I'm not into being a fcvk buddy, hell I've never even been a FWB! Lol

I've always been a "relationship girl" and men have respected me for that.



Well, I'm not one to never say never, but our energy/chemistry (beyond looks) would have be something very special and unique for any of those things to happen.

And flipping it around, you make take a look at ME and NOT see me as simply a fvck buddy.

And thus say to yourself "dang, she looks like is a classy chick with style, I'm gonna take some time building rapport and try to get her number, ask her out."

It goes both ways.

Happy New Year!

Every girl has room in their life for their mistake; they’re bad boy. You included.

 

[Don of the north]

I wonder how hardcore mode one would work in small towns in the UK?

 

[corsica]

This guy should do M0dE oNE!

 

[EyeBRollin]

This “mode one” garbage is a horrible idea.

 

[member160292]

This “mode one” garbage is a horrible idea.

Isn’t it crazy how a man in their late 30’s can be so much in their own bubble? The inability to provide any insightful responses to other forum members should be a red flag to others on here

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

No that's not what I'm about at all Venom, that's an assumption. And an incorrect one.

Well, that's what I got out of it.

As I said earlier on a different thread, or may have been this thread, I prefer a man take a few minutes to talk to me, to build rapport so I can determine whether there's more to him than his looks.

You already know my stance on that, so no need to beat a dead horse.

Because that's what it takes for ME to have sex with a man. An energy, a chemistry that goes beyond just looks. Which requires conversation and a bit of rapport building.

Then you are incompatible with MOH guys.

Nothing beta or simpish, a brief convo displaying interest. And I'm doing same in response.

Even then, I would not fvck a man from the street or whom I just met at the market or wherever.

Gotcha.

I'm not into being a fcvk buddy, hell I've never even been a FWB! Lol

I've always been a "relationship girl" and men have respected me for that.

Understood.

Well, I'm not one to never say never, but our energy/chemistry (beyond looks) would have to be something very special and unique for any of those things to happen.

And flipping it around, you may take a look at ME and NOT see me as simply a fvck buddy.

Certainly possible.

And thus say to yourself "dang, she looks like is a classy chick with style, I'm gonna take some time and chat with her, try to get her number, ask her out."

It goes both ways.

I mean as ARC said himself and you agreed, he only MOH's women he sees as fvck buddies.

Happy New Year!

Happy New Year.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I forgot to include this^ in my previous post.

Which is a huge distinction.

1. Women you deem worthy to get to know and possibly date and have relationship with?

2. Or women you view as strictly fvck buddies?

Fuk buddies: Women of whom you do not spend any non sexual time with nor any emotional bonding.

FWB: Women you are sexually active with of whom also share your non sexual attention, yet you also not in committed relationships with.

Ive always been a FWB kind of guy, to say the least.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Oh I used to love bad boys!! And got involved with my fair share.

But a man cold approaching me and telling me before any conversation has been had, that he wants to fvck me is NOT my idea of a bad boy.

YOU strike me as being a bit of a bad boy!
LOL

Reading the text exchanges you shared and specifically the one where you met the 21 year old at a bar and Mode One'd her by saying, "you wanna be bad with me later?" after having a brief conversation with her.

I told you then and will admit now, I found that hilarious and endearing and yes I could see myself falling for that approach at a bar or club.

I’m a house cat

 

[Gamisch]

I am willing to listen, if you can teach me something I don't know.



Common sense aint too common.



You are correct. I am being a good boy now, since my wife has come crawling back to me after I had to render her some tough love.

My experiences come from before I got married, and during our year of separation of which I was COMPLETELY active out there in the field.

Not to mention the choosing signals I've gotten and continue to get, even during present day occurrences.



Yeah, and many martial artists day live vicariously through the great Bruce Lee.

Bruce Lee is your favorite martial artist, favorite martial artist.

But that doesn't make the great martial artists of the world any less great of martial artists, just because they were inspired by someone else.

And I hardly ever offer opinions, unless they are opinions based upon facts.

Throughout my tenure on this forum, I've offered FACTS through real life experiences...which is why I get so angry and frown upon those who dare to offer their opinions towards offerings of facts.



I agree. But do you have the qualifications to critique them? Do you have any real life experiences which goes contrary to what they are teaching?

I do.



Ya know, I was actually thinking of doing a real, in field report.

Having a hidden camera on me as I did some cold approaching so you guys can see how I get busy.

I still might.

Just for show.



You people made me this way.

This advice is great for young men(minors) who need to learn how to escalate with women. "Hey stacy wanna kiss?".

You tell men to say to a grown woman (translated).

" hey miss, looking like a cheap hooker, wanna feck? "

The reason why @catsmeow2 is active in this thread is because she'll subconsciously feels the need to go against this( just like women in real life). You activate her biatch shield , she'll put it up instinctively . Like running from a apex predator will trigger a hunt response, she'll trigger her shield response.

Woman: " what makes you think I am a slvt like that ??? What did I do wear, say or anything that makes you think I just met you and I IMMEDIATELY know I wanna feck you and actually will do it???"

I bet that the biggest players with the most abundance of poosy dont operate like this. A Leo d. Carpio doesn't need to say this ahyte to a woman. Yeah , yeah, leo is a unfair example, but the moment he engages in a conversation with a woman ain't much different from you or me doing it. The real player is a smooth operator, one that oozes sexuality.

The moment I APPROACH a woman , let her know I am interested she'll know enough. Just asking her number tell her I wanna feck. Her giving her number confirms she might also wanna feck. No need to go neanderthal and mess up a perhaps otherwise certified "notch " .

Your mode 1 thing is something that happened to me quite a lot when I went to parties a lot. I met and slept with women without properly exchanging names. Or you know, that situation where you introduce yourself and dont even catch her name or forget it 2 seconds later. Little bump and grind , make out session , let's leave this club and "walk " a bit. I also had many women going mode 1 on ME by the way.

Mode 1 might be good to implement for men who struggle to escalate with women. Someting to keep in the back of your mind. NOT going "mode 1 " might make a man end up I a friend zone situation he could avoid by being direct , but ..here we go venom..TIMING is crucial. You might first wanna lure her in to create an opportunity to go mode 1. You can thank later, mate.

 

[Gamisch]

While I don't disagree with your post... The same women says "I don't know what came over me, he was so cute and smooth and it just happened!"

Of course women will talk out of one side of their mouths on what makes them look best socially... Then on the other side "it just happened"...

That's why I said I went out a lot. In that scenery it's more likely something like mode 1 will be just perfect. Lowered inhibitions will help a lot ik that case .

I wouldn't be surprised if MOST women used your line at least once . Just like most of have a story two where it happened to us. But these experiences aren't the norm, nor something you can use a "tactic".

Real life is (most of the time) not a porn movie.

 

[Jor-El]

DJ, with due respect, before I deactivated my DM feature,

You deactivated you say,were you getting hassled of some forum members ? Just wondered...

 

[Jor-El]

I'd rather not reveal that; there were a few reasons.

I simply thought it best to deactivate and will leave it there.

Aha ok, no worries

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

This advice is great for young men(minors) who need to learn how to escalate with women. "Hey stacy wanna kiss?".

You tell men to say to a grown woman (translated).

" hey miss, looking like a cheap hooker, wanna feck? "

Um, no.

No one said anything about the woman "looking like a cheap hooker". You added that in there to boost up your fallacious, non-equivalent argument.

The reason why @catsmeow2 is active in this thread is because she'll subconsciously feels the need to go against this( just like women in real life). You activate her biatch shield , she'll put it up instinctively . Like running from a apex predator will trigger a hunt response, she'll trigger her shield response.

She is entitled to her wrong opinions, just as you are.

Woman: " what makes you think I am a slvt like that ??? What did I do wear, say or anything that makes you think I just met you and I IMMEDIATELY know I wanna feck you and actually will do it???"

If the woman is attracted to you and actually wants to fuk you, then you wouldn't get that kind of response, would you?

No, you won't.

Increase your sexual market value, so that your chances of such harsh responses may be limited.

I bet that the biggest players with the most abundance of poosy dont operate like this.

ARC stated that most men (particularly, dating coaches) don't have the balls to be MOH, which is what ultimately separates him, from THEM.

Second, I can care less how the biggest players with the most abundance of puzzy operate.

As an alpha male (reaching Apex predator status), I stand on my own ten toes.

A Leo d. Carpio doesn't need to say this ahyte to a woman. Yeah , yeah, leo is a unfair example, but the moment he engages in a conversation with a woman ain't much different from you or me doing it. The real player is a smooth operator, one that oozes sexuality.

I agree.

The moment I APPROACH a woman , let her know I am interested she'll know enough. Just asking her number tell her I wanna feck. Her giving her number confirms she might also wanna feck. No need to go neanderthal and mess up a perhaps otherwise certified "notch " .

Keyword: "might".

The woman who gave you her number might be what ARC called a "manipulative timewaster".

He stated that most (mainly indirect game dating coaches) overlook that archetype of a woman.

There are women out there who are timewasters and are bent on using guys for their time, money, or resources.

Getting a woman's number may definitely be a step in the right direction, but you still may be a LONG way from the puzzy.

Most guys who are out there in the field can vouch for this; how many times have you gotten a woman's number, but for some reason or another, never got around to smashing, although you tried?

More than most would like to admit.

That is why, when you go standard Mode One or MOH, you aren't placing yourself in a position to whereas a woman can waste your time/flake on you...which was the point of the entire thread.

Your mode 1 thing is something that happened to me quite a lot when I went to parties a lot. I met and slept with women without properly exchanging names.

Good stuff .

Or you know, that situation where you introduce yourself and dont even catch her name or forget it 2 seconds later. Little bump and grind , make out session , let's leave this club and "walk " a bit. I also had many women going mode 1 on ME by the way.

Again, good stuff .

Now, here is a challenge...try to get that same kind of attention from women when you aren't in those environments.

I've also had my club successes, and they are great.

But when you've found yourself in the skins of a woman of whom you just met at a grocery store or library, without alcohol, music, or dancing involved...you might appreciate it much more.

Mode 1 might be good to implement for men who struggle to escalate with women.

So if they are scared to escalate with a woman, why in the hell would they have the balls to go Mode One?

Makes no sense.

Someting to keep in the back of your mind. NOT going "mode 1 " might make a man end up I a friend zone situation he could avoid by being direct , but ..here we go venom..TIMING is crucial. You might first wanna lure her in to create an opportunity to go mode 1. You can thank later, mate.

Yeah, thanks for nothing.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I had a email consultation one time with Alan Roger Currie. I asked him how he would do Mode One in the daytime. He stated he would say this. "When do you want to share each others time one on one?" so in other words he would sub-communicate his intentions. and set a sexual frame to the interaction

I tried sub-communicating it and keeping the conversation very short. It worked very well for me. I am 1 for 1 using that style of game infield. Meaning it worked the first time and only time I ever used it. Shortly after I quit game and never tried it again. Due to just life changes and overrall just becoming more and more unmotivated to do game.

It went something like this:

Me: Excuse me?
(get eye contact from her)
Her: Yes?
Me: You are the hottest women I have ever seen.
Her: Thank you
Me: How about hanging out sometime? (holding eye contact with a calm demeanor)
Her: (with a long pause holding eye contact)(I take a step back as if I am going to walk away) Sure let's hangout some time.

I get her phone number. It was the easiest lay I ever had.

Which is pretty much the same sh!t I do.

Good stuff.

You did not have to build any rapport or perform any magical tricks, did you?

She looked at you, as you held your masculine frame...and she picked up on your confidence and did not mind your direct approach.

Like you said, it was EASY, right?

Now, who knows how much ass-kissing you probably did after your first encounter; by hey, you got the approach down lol.

I respect everyone's game here. And have a very open mind to other people styles of game. And would love to here about your indirect style of approaching in more depth. But couldn't help to share this story.

No more indirect game over here, all DIRECT this way.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

DJ, I am trying to picture a scenario wherein a man cold approaching me and immediately launching into how he wants to "bend me over and fvck my ass" (or any variation thereof) before any conversation has been had, like ARC said to the chick at her place of work (or anywhere) could be considered by any woman as "cute and smooth."

You cannot speak for all women, catz.

And you clearly cannot speak for the chick he said it to, which it apparently worked on.

ARC's presentation of that experience and how the woman reacted does not sound real, I'm sorry guys, it just doesn't.

It doesn't sound real because it goes far beyond the social norms.

And he had stated in the video, a man has to excel at reading/picking up on women's body language (which most men aren't)...and the man also has to be oozing with confidence and masculine energy in order to go MOH (which most men aren't).

When you combine those two things, and add on the bonus feature of the woman actually being attracted to the man, then it becomes clear that such an approach can work on some women, even if it wont work particular women such as yourself.

He ALSO stated in another video that he was never a man who cared much about rejection, which meant he was going to make whatever approach he needed to make, and was fine with the results either way.

He was at her place of work for chrissskes! No way would that comment have gone down well in that environment. Unless he was in the ghetto or something.

Again, he stated that the majority of all the women he banged in his life where NOT from the ghetto.

You (and many others) have false misconceptions of what kind of women Mode One works on, which is why the method gets so much flak.

He didn't get the bang either, just some texting and phone sex (or so he claims). I realize he was visiting Orlando but if Mode One Hardcore were so successful, she would have been banging him that night!

Nonsense. There could of been a whole host of reasons why he didn't smash that night.

First of all, he didn't state how long he was in Orlando. He could have been there on a quick, two day weekend on business...and two days is not long considering your current engagements and not to mention the woman's prior engagements.

The woman could have been married and unable to get away from the house for all we know.

Yeah, I am speculating, but with so little information, that doesn't change the fact that..

1. She gave him the number despite him going MOH on her...

2. They had phone sex.

All steps in the right direction for a future sexual encounter.

Second, the fact that he admitted that he did not smash her (when he could have easily lied and said he did, to boost up the story), shows genuine honesty on his part.

 

[ManlyMan]

Now, who knows how much ass-kissing you probably did after your first encounter; by hey, you got the approach down lol.

I probably did ass kiss too much. What do you do after your first encounter just out of curiosity?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I probably did ass kiss too much. What do you do after your first encounter just out of curiosity?

I would have went Mode X on her (my version of Mode One).

I will have a thread on that, hopefully soon.

But regardless of whatever ass-kissing you did, perhaps you should have asked yourself the following questions...

1. Was the ass-kissing worth the end result?

2. Could you have gotten the end result, WITHOUT the ass-kissing?

Think of it this way...imagine...

You meet a chick, and you immediately take her to dinner, and spend 80 on dinner at an expensive restaurant.

And in the end, you wound up smashing.

Not bad, right?

Now, think to yourself..could you have still smashed, but instead of taking her to the expensive restaurant, you too her to Denny's or to IHOP?

Now sure, taking her to the expensive restaurant certainly can't hurt your chances....but at the same time, was it necessarily a requirement?

Probably not, right?

Or, think to yourself...suppose you took her to the expensive restaurant, and you did not smash (if that was your intention)?

You probably wouldn't count that as a success, would you?

So, why put yourself in a position where you could wind up disappointed?

See, the good thing about Mode One is, it forces the woman to tell you where she stands with you.

Because, check this out...when you said..

You: How about hanging out sometime?

Now sure, she agreed...but hanging out is very ambiguous and vague. Why?

Because your hanging out, and her hanging out can be two completely different things.

Your hanging out could be dinner and her coming to your crib for some smashing action after dinner.

But her hanging out could be "dinner and that's it, because anything beyond dinner is moving too fast".

See?

When you go Mode One, you directly tell her how you envision hanging out to be, and it forces her to decide on whether she is with the program, or not.

If she isn't, then now you know, and you didn't have to spend $80 on dinner to find out, either.

See?

 

[ManlyMan]

I would have went Mode X on her (my version of Mode One).

I will have a thread on that, hopefully soon.

But regardless of whatever ass-kissing you did, perhaps you should have asked yourself the following questions...

1. Was the ass-kissing worth the end result?

2. Could you have gotten the end result, WITHOUT the ass-kissing?

Think of it this way...imagine...

You meet a chick, and you immediately take her to dinner, and spend 80 on dinner at an expensive restaurant.

And in the end, you wound up smashing.

Not bad, right?

Now, think to yourself..could you have still smashed, but instead of taking her to the expensive restaurant, you too her to Denny's or to IHOP?

Now sure, taking her to the expensive restaurant certainly can't hurt your chances....but at the same time, was it necessarily a requirement?

Probably not, right?

Or, think to yourself...suppose you took her to the expensive restaurant, and you did not smash (if that was your intention)?

You probably wouldn't count that as a success, would you?

So, why put yourself in a position where you could wind up disappointed?

See, the good thing about Mode One is, it forces the woman to tell you where she stands with you.

Because, check this out...when you said..

You: How about hanging out sometime?

Now sure, she agreed...but hanging out is very ambiguous and vague. Why?

Because your hanging out, and her hanging out can be two completely different things.

Your hanging out could be dinner and her coming to your crib for some smashing action after dinner.

But her hanging out could be "dinner and that's it, because anything beyond dinner is moving too fast".

See?

When you go Mode One, you directly tell her how you envision hanging out to be, and it forces her to decide on whether she is with the program, or not.

If she isn't, then now you know, and you didn't have to spend $80 on dinner to find out, either.

See?

Thanks. Looking for forward to your post on Mode X.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Thanks. Looking for forward to your post on Mode X.

Indeed.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Since you're a self admitted alien of a woman that's so different, how is your perspective valuable to men looking to fvck any other woman other than you?

Because everyone needs that chick in the office that isn’t afraid to say bl0wj0b at the happy hour.