A Woman Can't Flake On You; If You Do This...MODE ONE!!! Part 1

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I had a email consultation one time with Alan Roger Currie. I asked him how he would do Mode One in the daytime. He stated he would say this. "When do you want to share each others time one on one?" so in other words he would sub-communicate his intentions. and set a sexual frame to the interaction

I tried sub-communicating it and keeping the conversation very short. It worked very well for me. I am 1 for 1 using that style of game infield. Meaning it worked the first time and only time I ever used it. Shortly after I quit game and never tried it again. Due to just life changes and overrall just becoming more and more unmotivated to do game.

It went something like this:

Me: Excuse me?
(get eye contact from her)
Her: Yes?
Me: You are the hottest women I have ever seen.
Her: Thank you
Me: How about hanging out sometime? (holding eye contact with a calm demeanor)
Her: (with a long pause holding eye contact)(I take a step back as if I am going to walk away) Sure let's hangout some time.

I get her phone number. It was the easiest lay I ever had.

Which is pretty much the same sh!t I do.

Good stuff.

You did not have to build any rapport or perform any magical tricks, did you?

She looked at you, as you held your masculine frame...and she picked up on your confidence and did not mind your direct approach.

Like you said, it was EASY, right?

Now, who knows how much ass-kissing you probably did after your first encounter; by hey, you got the approach down lol.

I respect everyone's game here. And have a very open mind to other people styles of game. And would love to here about your indirect style of approaching in more depth. But couldn't help to share this story.

No more indirect game over here, all DIRECT this way.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

DJ, I am trying to picture a scenario wherein a man cold approaching me and immediately launching into how he wants to "bend me over and fvck my ass" (or any variation thereof) before any conversation has been had, like ARC said to the chick at her place of work (or anywhere) could be considered by any woman as "cute and smooth."

You cannot speak for all women, catz.

And you clearly cannot speak for the chick he said it to, which it apparently worked on.

ARC's presentation of that experience and how the woman reacted does not sound real, I'm sorry guys, it just doesn't.

It doesn't sound real because it goes far beyond the social norms.

And he had stated in the video, a man has to excel at reading/picking up on women's body language (which most men aren't)...and the man also has to be oozing with confidence and masculine energy in order to go MOH (which most men aren't).

When you combine those two things, and add on the bonus feature of the woman actually being attracted to the man, then it becomes clear that such an approach can work on some women, even if it wont work particular women such as yourself.

He ALSO stated in another video that he was never a man who cared much about rejection, which meant he was going to make whatever approach he needed to make, and was fine with the results either way.

He was at her place of work for chrissskes! No way would that comment have gone down well in that environment. Unless he was in the ghetto or something.

Again, he stated that the majority of all the women he banged in his life where NOT from the ghetto.

You (and many others) have false misconceptions of what kind of women Mode One works on, which is why the method gets so much flak.

He didn't get the bang either, just some texting and phone sex (or so he claims). I realize he was visiting Orlando but if Mode One Hardcore were so successful, she would have been banging him that night!

Nonsense. There could of been a whole host of reasons why he didn't smash that night.

First of all, he didn't state how long he was in Orlando. He could have been there on a quick, two day weekend on business...and two days is not long considering your current engagements and not to mention the woman's prior engagements.

The woman could have been married and unable to get away from the house for all we know.

Yeah, I am speculating, but with so little information, that doesn't change the fact that..

1. She gave him the number despite him going MOH on her...

2. They had phone sex.

All steps in the right direction for a future sexual encounter.

Second, the fact that he admitted that he did not smash her (when he could have easily lied and said he did, to boost up the story), shows genuine honesty on his part.

 

[ManlyMan]

Now, who knows how much ass-kissing you probably did after your first encounter; by hey, you got the approach down lol.

I probably did ass kiss too much. What do you do after your first encounter just out of curiosity?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I probably did ass kiss too much. What do you do after your first encounter just out of curiosity?

I would have went Mode X on her (my version of Mode One).

I will have a thread on that, hopefully soon.

But regardless of whatever ass-kissing you did, perhaps you should have asked yourself the following questions...

1. Was the ass-kissing worth the end result?

2. Could you have gotten the end result, WITHOUT the ass-kissing?

Think of it this way...imagine...

You meet a chick, and you immediately take her to dinner, and spend 80 on dinner at an expensive restaurant.

And in the end, you wound up smashing.

Not bad, right?

Now, think to yourself..could you have still smashed, but instead of taking her to the expensive restaurant, you too her to Denny's or to IHOP?

Now sure, taking her to the expensive restaurant certainly can't hurt your chances....but at the same time, was it necessarily a requirement?

Probably not, right?

Or, think to yourself...suppose you took her to the expensive restaurant, and you did not smash (if that was your intention)?

You probably wouldn't count that as a success, would you?

So, why put yourself in a position where you could wind up disappointed?

See, the good thing about Mode One is, it forces the woman to tell you where she stands with you.

Because, check this out...when you said..

You: How about hanging out sometime?

Now sure, she agreed...but hanging out is very ambiguous and vague. Why?

Because your hanging out, and her hanging out can be two completely different things.

Your hanging out could be dinner and her coming to your crib for some smashing action after dinner.

But her hanging out could be "dinner and that's it, because anything beyond dinner is moving too fast".

See?

When you go Mode One, you directly tell her how you envision hanging out to be, and it forces her to decide on whether she is with the program, or not.

If she isn't, then now you know, and you didn't have to spend $80 on dinner to find out, either.

See?

 

[ManlyMan]

I would have went Mode X on her (my version of Mode One).

I will have a thread on that, hopefully soon.

But regardless of whatever ass-kissing you did, perhaps you should have asked yourself the following questions...

1. Was the ass-kissing worth the end result?

2. Could you have gotten the end result, WITHOUT the ass-kissing?

Think of it this way...imagine...

You meet a chick, and you immediately take her to dinner, and spend 80 on dinner at an expensive restaurant.

And in the end, you wound up smashing.

Not bad, right?

Now, think to yourself..could you have still smashed, but instead of taking her to the expensive restaurant, you too her to Denny's or to IHOP?

Now sure, taking her to the expensive restaurant certainly can't hurt your chances....but at the same time, was it necessarily a requirement?

Probably not, right?

Or, think to yourself...suppose you took her to the expensive restaurant, and you did not smash (if that was your intention)?

You probably wouldn't count that as a success, would you?

So, why put yourself in a position where you could wind up disappointed?

See, the good thing about Mode One is, it forces the woman to tell you where she stands with you.

Because, check this out...when you said..

You: How about hanging out sometime?

Now sure, she agreed...but hanging out is very ambiguous and vague. Why?

Because your hanging out, and her hanging out can be two completely different things.

Your hanging out could be dinner and her coming to your crib for some smashing action after dinner.

But her hanging out could be "dinner and that's it, because anything beyond dinner is moving too fast".

See?

When you go Mode One, you directly tell her how you envision hanging out to be, and it forces her to decide on whether she is with the program, or not.

If she isn't, then now you know, and you didn't have to spend $80 on dinner to find out, either.

See?

Thanks. Looking for forward to your post on Mode X.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Thanks. Looking for forward to your post on Mode X.

Indeed.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Since you're a self admitted alien of a woman that's so different, how is your perspective valuable to men looking to fvck any other woman other than you?

Because everyone needs that chick in the office that isn’t afraid to say bl0wj0b at the happy hour.

 

[member160292]

I'd rather not reveal that; there were a few reasons.

I simply thought it best to deactivate and will leave it there.

Ha ha. This is men in general who have to seek validation, Cat. They seek to know more, but you aren’t wanting to provide the info, drives them nuts.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

"No one" had to say anything, but that is certainly the implication. For me anyway, and many women I know.

Words are not always necessary Venom to get the message across. And opening with "I wanna fvck that ass" certainly does send that message, even if that wasn't your intention.

Well, that message is sent to YOU, but not sent to the vast majority of the women on ARC's hit list.

They apparently got the message of, "this attractive man just revealed to me that he wants to fuk me, and now that I think about it, I want to fuk him too".

Luckily, you and those women you know aren't the only women on this planet.

And I would appreciate your not arguing with this or telling me "I'm wrong." It's how I feel when Mode One Hardcored, standard Mode One I have no issue with.

Just don't go around saying that stuff don't work (in general), just because it won't work on you, specifically.

That said, I'm gonna modify my opinion somewhat based on a woman I used to be friendly with around 10 years ago.

She was extremely overweight (okay, fat) most of her life. I mean like obese. 300 lbs or so.

When she turned 30 (approx) she had bypass surgery and lost 150+ pounds. Then had surgery to remove excess skin.

Even after the weight loss, she had extremely low self-esteen and sought validation from men wherever she couid. She craved it, was desperate for it, like a dog in heat.

She used her sexuality to get it, and yes when men Mode One Hardcored her both on-line and in real, she ate it up, she was flattered!

The fact that a man, any man, even one off the streets, wanted to fvck her was a huge ego boost and validation for her.

So yes you're absolutely right, there are women who would NOT be offended or put off by it.

Which was kinda the point.

I have no doubt there are many women like my old friend who crave validation and attention and who wouid respond positively to being Mode One Hardcored.

So forgive me, I was wrong about that initially.

Me? Not a brag but when I was single, I had so much abundance and received so much attention without even looking for it (just like on this forum, lol just teasing)

Yup, which is why you've become so accustomed to 5-10 minutes of flattering conversation with beta males who stroke that ego of yours...and why you shun my quick, simple direct approach.

, that a man approaching me in that manner (MOH), I viewed as desperate and overly thirsty. Again, my feelings. My opinion.

See, that is where you are WRONG.

As I EXPLAINED to you weeks ago..

Thirsty = begging, and yes, desperation.

But if a man approaches you and requests for the two of you to slap skins together, and you decline and he simply walks away...

There is NOTHING desperate or thirsty about that.

Now, what part of that you don't understand, I don't know.

There is nothing about Mode One that suggests thirstiness or desperation.

In fact, it is the exact opposite.

Like I said, words are NOT always necessary to get the message across. And especially crude sexually explicit language that is Mode One Hardcore.

Case in point:

I recall meeting and dating a man I met at a breakfast cafe in Brooklyn a couple of years ago.

He was sitting at a table across from me and we "eye fvcked" each other for around 20 minutes.

I knew he wanted to fvck me and he didn't have to say a damn word. In fact, it was more exciting and intriguing NOT speaking about it. We both just knew.

Anyway, we all got up and we ended up taking a walk. He invited me to a party that night, I accepted and we dated for several months.

Congratulations, catz.

You've just CLEARLY contradicted yourself.

You just provided a real life example of you and a guy eye fuking each other...and you state that you KNEW the guy wanted to fuk you.

So, basically, his eyes went Mode One Hardcore on you (your implication of the story).

However, you weren't offended or disgusted by it, as you are on this forum.

No, you weren't offended at all.

Not only weren't you offended, but you ended up leaving with the guy the same night, went to a party at his invitation (same night), and dated him for several months which undoubtedly led to sex.

You've been acting as if you are so disgusted by MOH and it is soooo beneath you..yet you share a story of a guy that basically went MOH on you and he didn't even have to say a word!!!

And you accepted his date, dated him for several months, and more than likely wound of having sex with him!!

Smh.

Tsk, tsk.

One positive thing I will say about Mode One Hardcore. That when a man uses that approach, a woman knows straight away he views her as a sex object/fvck buddy (as you admitted) and has no desire to actually date her. Or even talk to her! Lol

So if she responds positively, she knows what's up and has no delusions about it.

In that sense, it's a good thing.

That is the WHOLE FUKIN POINT!!!

Am I in the twilight zone?

From now on, catz...just say "I agree" in response to everything I post.

Because this is the second or third time you've taken me down a rabbit hole, just to agree with me in the long run.

Plus, I think you got a crush on me.

So open back up your inbox and lets discuss.

 

[Gamisch]

Um, no.

No one said anything about the woman "looking like a cheap hooker". You added that in there to boost up your fallacious, non-equivalent argument.



She is entitled to her wrong opinions, just as you are.



If the woman is attracted to you and actually wants to fuk you, then you wouldn't get that kind of response, would you?

No, you won't.

Increase your sexual market value, so that your chances of such harsh responses may be limited.



ARC stated that most men (particularly, dating coaches) don't have the balls to be MOH, which is what ultimately separates him, from THEM.

Second, I can care less how the biggest players with the most abundance of puzzy operate.

As an alpha male (reaching Apex predator status), I stand on my own ten toes.



I agree.



Keyword: "might".

The woman who gave you her number might be what ARC called a "manipulative timewaster".

He stated that most (mainly indirect game dating coaches) overlook that archetype of a woman.

There are women out there who are timewasters and are bent on using guys for their time, money, or resources.

Getting a woman's number may definitely be a step in the right direction, but you still may be a LONG way from the puzzy.

Most guys who are out there in the field can vouch for this; how many times have you gotten a woman's number, but for some reason or another, never got around to smashing, although you tried?

More than most would like to admit.

That is why, when you go standard Mode One or MOH, you aren't placing yourself in a position to whereas a woman can waste your time/flake on you...which was the point of the entire thread.



Good stuff .



Again, good stuff .

Now, here is a challenge...try to get that same kind of attention from women when you aren't in those environments.

I've also had my club successes, and they are great.

But when you've found yourself in the skins of a woman of whom you just met at a grocery store or library, without alcohol, music, or dancing involved...you might appreciate it much more.



So if they are scared to escalate with a woman, why in the hell would they have the balls to go Mode One?

Makes no sense.



Yeah, thanks for nothing.

You dont get it do ya? You say WITHOUT WORDS that she is a cheap hooker,because that's how you treat her by coming at her like that. But they, well seen the pictures with the type of women you chase. Pure garbage. So I can somehow imagine this might've worked for you in the past.

Its not rocketsciense by the way. This whole mode 1 bs is a nattemp to "be different" unfortunately its being different in the wrong way. Unless you are in a environment with low class people, or where inhibitions are lowered this WONT work.

Your fixation and fangirl cheerleading of A. Curry is pathetic by the way; do you have posters of him above your bed as well? Lord christ, he was just another semi hoodlum dude spreading game that all of my cousins could have told you. If I put a colorful sticker on a turd i bet you would buy it. Can you now think for yourself, without a datingcoach holding your hand and telling you what to do and what to think? Form your own philosophy, and take from each coach AND each member what you need to " build your own castle of knowledge ". Newsflash, Curry might've also made mistakes or might've had wrong ideas...

I say that this mode 1 bs COULD work if a man has trouble escalating with women. So he gets the dates, women like him but he is " too friendly ". Mode 1 is nothing but primitive and instinctive behavior. Its within every man. Just like everyman can punch to some degree if needed. Some do it better than others..


Until you come up with evidence I'll take your posts with a grain of salt . Nothing personal but, you are not a troll, just a unhappily married man who has no affinity with game anymore and shouts from the couch . Is normal. I've been in LTR'S, its might make your game stiff and dull.

The fact you try to " teach " men this utter bs, and are insulted when you get feedback tells me enough about your character . You are a charlatan at best. An imposter that goes crazy when he feels like his mask is about to be taking off. Field reports homie. It's easy talking alotta crap without any evidence.

 

[RangerMIke]

Be yourself. If you are just a guy that just wants sex without attachment, then make what you want clear... then let women figure out if that is what she wants too.

Women do not have to wait for a man that is overtly sexual to get sex. If a woman wants sex, she just goes and gets it. She'll get on Tinder and line up a stranger and go fvck him. Women do not have to work for sex... it is one of the easiest things in the world for a woman to get.

If a man wants sex without attachment the only things you need is to be in good physical shape, not be the type of man that gets attached, and not be anyone that judges other people. Be good looking and get busy with other things, not care so much about getting laid, and be open minded. The more you care about getting sex the less likely you will have casual sex.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You dont get it do ya? You say WITHOUT WORDS that she is a cheap hooker,because that's how you treat her by coming at her like that.

No, I don't get it..and never will.

Mode One just aint for you, buddy.

Mode One is for guys with confidence, balls, and masculine energy.

It is not for white knight beta males, such as some people on this very forum.

But they, well seen the pictures with the type of women you chase. Pure garbage. So I can somehow imagine this might've worked for you in the past.

What you saw was a picture I shared with the forum, of a woman with BIG ASS TITTIES...which is what I am attracted to.

I can care less what YOU (or anyone else) are attracted to.

Mode One isn't catered towards any particular woman, but rather ANY particular woman of whom YOU are attracted to, and vice versa.

Its not rocketsciense by the way. This whole mode 1 bs is a nattemp to "be different" unfortunately its being different in the wrong way. Unless you are in a environment with low class people, or where inhibitions are lowered this WONT work.

Well, you already proved to me that..

1. You dont have to heart to go Mode One.

2. You have low levels of game understanding.

So right now, I am just having fun with you at this point.

Your fixation and fangirl cheerleading of A. Curry is pathetic by the way

Well, we are talking about Mode One, ain't we?

Kinda difficult to talk about MO and its philosophy, without mentioning the man behind the theory.

Now, if we were discussing archery and I insist on mentioning ARC, then perhaps you'd have a point.

But we are talkin Mode One..and you gotta give props where its due.

; do you have posters of him above your bed as well?

No, but Im thinking about posting the Mode One logo poster on my wall .

Lord christ, he was just another semi hoodlum dude spreading game that all of my cousins could have told you.

Hypothetically, they could have.

But in reality, they didn't.

If I put a colorful sticker on a turd i bet you would buy it.

Put a Mode One sticker on it, and I might buy it.

Can you now think for yourself, without a datingcoach holding your hand and telling you what to do and what to think?

Form your own philosophy, and take from each coach AND each member what you need to " build your own castle of knowledge ".

My version of Mode One is my philosophy and my sh!t.

My ignoring strategy is my philosophy and my sh!t.

My cold approaching (bank robbery method) is my philosophy and my sh!t.

Been there and done that.

Sounds like the only way you can get a woman is via club environments...which is why those were the only examples you provided.

Which is also why you ignored my challenge for you to see if you can pull a chick beyond those environments.

The level that you are on, I pasted 15 years ago...pimpin.

Newsflash, Curry might've also made mistakes or might've had wrong ideas...

Worthless point.

I say that this mode 1 bs COULD work if a man has trouble escalating with women.

I addressed this nonsense the last time you said it.

My point stands.

Until you come up with evidence I'll take your posts with a grain of salt .

Your priorities are misplaced.

Instead of focusing on my posts, what you should focus on is leveling up as a man.

Your game is terrible and you lack heart, experience, and wisdom...so for you to suggest that I can ever learn anything from you, is more insulting to me.

Nothing personal but, you are not a troll, just a unhappily married man

Happily*

Get it right .

who has no affinity with game anymore and shouts from the couch . Is normal. I've been in LTR'S, its might make your game stiff and dull.

Oh, you've been in LTR's??

I dont believe you.

Show some receipts.

The fact you try to " teach " men this utter bs, and are insulted when you get feedback tells me enough about your character . You are a charlatan at best. An imposter that goes crazy when he feels like his mask is about to be taking off. Field reports homie. It's easy talking alotta crap without any evidence.

Mode One aint for beta males.

You aint built for it.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I'm not gonna call anyone garbage but @Gamisch makes a good point.

Perhaps it's about demographics.

I'm a white, blonde, green-eyed, 117 lbs female who was born and raised in an upper-middle class area outside NYC.

The men there including my five brothers were raised to be gentlemen. Polite and respectful.

It was unheard of for a man to cold approach saying " damn u hot, lemme fvck that ass." NOT gonna happen.

There is no incompatibility between telling a woman what's on your mind, and being a gentleman.

You can tell a woman you want to have sex with her, while at the same time holding open the door for her.

Currently, I live in a similar environment in SoCal.

I always knew when a man wanted to fvck me. Through his body language even if no words were spoken about it. Like I said, words are often unnecessary to get the message across.

I never considered it "beta" or "alpha" I never thought of it in those terms. Nor did my friends or other women I associated with.

So what?

@Venom, my sense is you were raised and perhaps even now live in a completely different environment.

The woman whose pic you uploaded is reflective of that.

Catz. You sound like a DAMN fool.

The woman whose pic I uploaded wasn't even the same women who I dated.

The women in the pic is unknown to me, I only uploaded it to show the BODY frame of the woman I took on the date..and it was only meant to show how big her titties were.

I clearly explained this in the post.

Right back to your apparent lack of reading comprehension skills, are we?

As is frequenting Walmart and Burger King to find and MOH approach women.

Women shop at Walmart, and eat or work at Burger King.

Women in your area were/are responsive as reflected in the stories you shared.

Wherever area I find myself, I find myself in the presence of women.

For example, the woman allowing you to suck her breasts for two hours in the parking lot and giving you a BJ.

Her titties were HUGE.

I'm not gonna judge you for the type of woman who attracts you, nor will I judge them.

Neither shall I judge you for the type of men who attracts you.

We're just different that's all, and we attract different types of people and different styles and approaches.

Yeah, no sh!t.

Truism.

Truism - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

For some reason you want to argue with me about this, accusing me and what I personally like and respond to as "wrong."

There IS no right or wrong, again just different and I think it's important to respect that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Lol, so now Mode One Hardcore includes non-verbal flirting?

Dude, you're hilarious, truly. Changing definitions, rewriting history to fit your particular narrative at any given time.

If non-verbal flirting like eye-fcking were considered MOH, then any time a man approached a woman, even to say "excuse me miss, I saw you walking past and thought you had a nice style" (which you consider cringe) he'd be Mode One Hardcoring her because that also indicates he wants to fvck her.

Even a simple "hi" indicates he wants to fvck her!

Locking eyes at a bar or party or anywhere indicates he wants to fvck her.

Approaching her and engaging in a 5 minute conversation indicates he wants to fvck her!

When a man sees an attractive woman, he wants to fvck her, that's a given. Most women know this.

It's all about how he chooses to convey that. His style, his approach.

According to your earlier definition and the example ARC demonstrated in the video, MOH is boldly approaching a woman and verbally telling her (with actual words) before any conversation has been had, he wants to fvck her.

You can't change definitions to suit your narrative. I'm not one to toss insults but you look like an idiot doing so.

And no, the man I met at the Cafe and I did NOT fvck that night. We went to the party, talked and flirted till 3:00 a.m. and went home separately.

Dated for several months.

Broke up because as it turned out, he was still mourning his late wife who had died just prior to having met me. Very long story.

Not that that has any relevance but thought I'd mention it.

And sorry, but no I'm not re-opening my inbox. In fact, I've spent way much too much time on this thread already.

Ciao.

Nonsense. You cannot wiggle yourself out of this one.

You said yourself that you BOTH were eye-fukin each other for 20 minutes, and that you KNEW he wanted to fuk you based on this 20 minute staredown.

So how is a eye-suggestive "I wanna fuk you" any different than a verbal "I wanna fuk you".

Either way, you get the same message.

So why would you be disgusted by one, while welcoming the other?

Inconsistent, contradicting logic.

However, it makes my point that direct game (verbal or non verbal) is never offensive if the woman is sexually attracted to the guy.

And that was clearly the case in your situation.

Since you were attracted to the guy, all of that "this is beneath me" sh!t went out the window.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I find it repulsive and demeaning.

What's demeaning about being fwb with a guy?

Edit: Forget it. I see you said "fvck buddy" not "fwb"? I use the terms interchageablly, but I forgot about the distinction made a couple pages back.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I did not say FWB was demeaning. I said fvck buddy was demeaning which @We_ArE_VeNOM admitted to viewing the women he Mode One Hardcore approaches.

It takes two to tangle, catz.

A fuk buddy relationship is something that is understood between both parties (just like any relationship).

So how is it demeaning, if the woman is down for it?

Makes no sense and comes across as judgmental on your part.

Friends with Benefits is a different thing altogether and I have no problem with it, in fact all relationships essentially begin that way anyway.

You're fvcking and spending time together, until you decide to be exclusive after which you're in a relationship.

Pretty much all my relationships started out that way.

Ummm what if the man doesn't want to spend time with the woman outside of the bedroom?

What if the man doesn't want to be her friend?

Fuk buddies.

 

[Gamisch]

No, I don't get it..and never will.

Mode One just aint for you, buddy.

Mode One is for guys with confidence, balls, and masculine energy.

It is not for white knight beta males, such as some people on this very forum.



What you saw was a picture I shared with the forum, of a woman with BIG ASS TITTIES...which is what I am attracted to.

I can care less what YOU (or anyone else) are attracted to.

Mode One isn't catered towards any particular woman, but rather ANY particular woman of whom YOU are attracted to, and vice versa.



Well, you already proved to me that..

1. You dont have to heart to go Mode One.

2. You have low levels of game understanding.

So right now, I am just having fun with you at this point.



Well, we are talking about Mode One, ain't we?

Kinda difficult to talk about MO and its philosophy, without mentioning the man behind the theory.

Now, if we were discussing archery and I insist on mentioning ARC, then perhaps you'd have a point.

But we are talkin Mode One..and you gotta give props where its due.



No, but Im thinking about posting the Mode One logo poster on my wall .



Hypothetically, they could have.

But in reality, they didn't.



Put a Mode One sticker on it, and I might buy it.



My version of Mode One is my philosophy and my sh!t.

My ignoring strategy is my philosophy and my sh!t.

My cold approaching (bank robbery method) is my philosophy and my sh!t.

Been there and done that.

Sounds like the only way you can get a woman is via club environments...which is why those were the only examples you provided.

Which is also why you ignored my challenge for you to see if you can pull a chick beyond those environments.

The level that you are on, I pasted 15 years ago...pimpin.



Worthless point.



I addressed this nonsense the last time you said it.

My point stands.



Your priorities are misplaced.

Instead of focusing on my posts, what you should focus on is leveling up as a man.

Your game is terrible and you lack heart, experience, and wisdom...so for you to suggest that I can ever learn anything from you, is more insulting to me.



Happily*

Get it right .



Oh, you've been in LTR's??

I dont believe you.

Show some receipts.



Mode One aint for beta males.

You aint built for it.

If there is one thing I couldn't understand it's why so called RP guys are married. John Anthony is a douchebag ,but at least he keeps showing receipts. Nowedays I do feel like a RP guy can get married but only when he is such a manly man man, that he forces the woman to show best behavior at all times, thus forcing himself to ultimately reward her and perhaps marry her. And that NOT your case. You married out of scarcity and got results accordingly to that mindset. Let's get that out of the way first.

So that makes your advice sus at best. Similar like I am not married, so it would be strange if I would give advice about marriage. Same thing with you, you ain't in the trenches. So your theoretical advice is untested. We all seen how you " guided " Divorced and made him say stupid shyte and how he basically lost some opportunities by listening to you.

"Mode One just aint for you, buddy.

Mode One is for guys with confidence, balls, and masculine energy."
I said before, that the biggest players are also men with class. You basically say that the L di Caprio's of this world are " men with no balls and confidence " ,because they'll approach a woman with a million times more class and wit than you do. C'mon..

I am a NATURAL in mode 1. No dating coach neccessary to learn this. As I said before ,common sense. I am confrontational with everything I do. I dont shy away from any confrontation, whether that's about women or money ect.

There is such a thing as having balls bigger than what's good for you. To clearify, you don't have those big balls neither. Otherwise you would be like me , divorced or even that John Anthony dude ,in the trenches getting your boots dirty. You are sitting at home being overweight clinging on to a failed marriage yet try to PREPARE yourself for when you also gotta pick up a weapon and go out there. I can already tell you that this method will fail. Pick another one sir.

"Hypothetically, they could have.

But in reality, they didn't."

How can my cousins in Europe and south America teach YOU shyte when they dont know you? I am just saying that this " mode 1 " thing is just common sense where I am from. Shyte you supposed to learn at the kitchen table when you're 13. Ofcourse it's good for men to pick this up later in life, but at least be freaking honest about it. If you think this is "revolutionary knowledge " as a grown man, than I dont know what to tell you..

"Sounds like the only way you can get a woman is via club environments...which is why those were the only examples you provided.

Which is also why you ignored my challenge for you to see if you can pull a chick beyond those environments."

Haha you are funny my brother. I pulled women from ALL environments. Work, street, grocery store ,OLD,gym. I've NEVER felt the need to say stupid lines like yours. The moment I introduce myself and she is receptive, I know its game on. But hey , there is such a thing called CLASS, and if you don't have it..then I geuss you need another grown man telling you what to do and it makes you vulnerable to be open to the wrk6ng advice. Perhaps 15 years ago you had some game, your failed marriage obviously killed every last bit of game that was in you. Cant blame ya, that's what bad LTR'S do..they take you out of the game and you get stiff!

"Your priorities are misplaced.

Instead of focusing on my posts, what you should focus on is leveling up as a man.

Your game is terrible and you lack heart, experience, and wisdom...so for you to suggest that I can ever learn anything from you, is more insulting to me."

Had me spitting out my thea once AGAIN. You are hilarious, like a clown in the circus. I am here to both learn and teach. To spar with fellow lions . Never will I think mor claim I have all the answers . I'll repeat, I bet I can learn anything or two from you and vice versa. Big difference in attitude. That's why you respond like a angry teenage girl on her period . Your insecurities tell you to put your fingers in your ears and rant on without ever looking back if someone else might have something useful to add to to convo. I bet your wife LOVES to argue with a stubborn ,stiff mr know it all like you....let's just wait and see how your field reports will go shall we? So you can put your money where your mouth is? Remember "hey miss wanna feck?" Is the reason why we argue right now.


EDIT: removed picture from me and my daughter. I like to keep a certain amount of anonymity and privacy. But I did that to to "proof " I am a LTR guy. I am more of a Alpha simp, just like you. A Pookie rayray that doesnt like to be just a feckboy. Different topic.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Because cold approaching a woman and announcing you wanna "fvck her ass" is disrespectful, crude and gross. It reflects a complete lack of class and social awareness.

Your opinion.

It also reflects that you view her as a sex object/fvck buddy (which you admitted) and perhaps the woman YOU approach in that manner have no issue with being a fvck buddy but I do. I find it repulsive and demeaning.

Your feelings.

I have higher standards than that, and men respect me for it and treat me with respect.

Cool.

The man I met at the café, yes I knew he wanted to fvck me, I'm not stupid.

But he was respectful enough to not hit me with it like a bull charging out of the gate.

No, but instead he probably stood there undressing you with his eyes and licking his lips.

No issues with that though, huh?

He approached, we walked, talked, he asked me to meet him at a party where we flirted and kissed until 3:00 am. And like I said we dated for several months.

Yall could have cut the chatter and got right to business.

I was NOT just a sex object/fvck buddy to him. THAT's the difference.

Ok.

There is also something called TENSION that is quite intoxicating.

There is something called MODE ONE, which is also quite intoxicating...when you are bold/direct with a woman about your sexual desires with her....and the adrenaline that pumps as you anticipate her response.

Yes. Intoxicating.

Tension is built when both people feel an attraction but nothing is said, it's silent. We both know we're attracted, we both know we want to fvck and we flirt, tease and express desire through other non-verbal communication until the tension reaches it's piqué and we both explode in raw wild intoxicating passionate sex.

This is not to say I'm averse to a man I am dating and sexually involved with telling me he wants to "fvck my ass," hardly! But we're dating or in a relationship, I'm NOT just a piece of ass. It's A LOT different from being cold approached and a man saying that.

Anyway, I have said my piece, you've said yours. It's a futile waste of energy continuing this conversation.

You and I are so far from being on the same wavelength about this, there is really no point.

You do YOU.

Peace.

Aight catz.

Like I said, un-ass your DM'z, and holla at me.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I have on final question @We_ArE_VeNOM , or a couple, I was thinking about this last night.

Since you hold Mold One Hardcore in such high regard; you don't find cold approaching a woman telling her you want to "fvck that ass" (or any variation thereof) disrespectful or demeaning, why is it you only use that approach on women you view as fvck buddies? Which you admitted to?

Why not use on all women? Women you view as fvck buddies, women you'd like to be FWBs with or women you'd actually like to date and have a relationship with?

What's your thought process about that?

Why only fvck buddies? Do you view them with less value, not worthy enough to give them the respect of a less crass approach (say standard Mode One)?

Or maybe even a 2-minute conversation before announcing your intention to fvck them?

And how upon looking at a chick, can you determine she's only good for fvck buddy and not something more?

Is there something about her look or style that you consider to be only fvck buddy material?

And as such, you immediately launch into sexually explicit language telling her you'd like her "fvck her ass"?

This is a serious question BTW, I'd really like to know.

It seems to me you could get the same message across without the crass, sexually explicit and frankly disrespectful language which you must consider to be as well otherwise you'd use MOH on all women, NOT just women you view as fvck buddy.

I'm curious, how did you/do you approach women you don't view as fvck buddies? Why differentiate?

You either hold true to your style of MOH and use on ALL women you find attractive and want to fvck regardless of whether or not you view her as fvck buddy or something more, or don't use at all, opt for the direct but less crass style of standard Mode One.

I dunno, MOH seems unnecessary, especially in today's climate where women are actually being abducted off the street, sexually assaulted and even killed in some cases.

In my neck of the woods, a man, a stranger, cold approaching a woman on the street telling her he'd like to "fvck her a$$" could be considered harassment and a woman might even call the police if she feels threatened enough by it

It's just not something a socially aware man would ever do.

And I gotta question a woman's own thought process as well for responding positively to it.

I mean that's just plain dumb, given like I said all that's happening with women today, being abducted, raped and murdered and no I am not exaggerating, it's happening.

I have absolutely no problem with standard Mode One, I prefer a man be direct.

And if he only wants a fvck buddy arrangement, that's fine. Not my cuppa tea but to each his own

But there is a more respectful and less crass way of telling a woman that imo.

And less risky, for both

Nuff said from me. Interesting discussion.

Ciao.

Cats, Venom is a black guy from Detroit who thinks his context is 100% exportable to other contexts. It may work for him, but with a very necessary disclaimer.

And I'm not taking anyone's side here, you're both attention ho's. Lol.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I have on final question @We_ArE_VeNOM , or a couple, I was thinking about this last night.

Correction, you were thinking about ME last night.

Since you hold Mold One Hardcore in such high regard; you don't find cold approaching a woman telling her you want to "fvck that ass" (or any variation thereof) disrespectful or demeaning, why is it you only use that approach on women you view as fvck buddies? Which you admitted to?

Why not use on all women? Women you view as fvck buddies, women you'd like to be FWBs with or women you'd actually like to date and have a relationship with?

What's your thought process about that?

Why only fvck buddies? Do you view them with less value, not worthy enough to give them the respect of a less crass approach (say standard Mode One)?

Great questions.

To be honest, I do not like the concept of fuk buddies, as ARC defines it.

Will I accept it, yes.

But do I ever seek it, no.

I prefer friends with benefits (FWB) because I rather enjoy the companionship of a cool-azz female..and I value the non-sexual bonding with a woman.

That, followed by the fact that I seek to, not only take a woman's body, but her mind as well.

FWB is perfect because it provides a balance (middle ground) between fuk buddies, and monogamy.

Or maybe even a 2-minute conversation before announcing your intention to fvck them?

And how upon looking at a chick, can you determine she's only good for fvck buddy and not something more?

She would have to be a VERY SPECIAL woman for there to be something more than FWB.

Is there something about her look or style that you consider to be only fvck buddy material?

*Replacing fuk buddy with FWB..*

My initial interest in the woman would be physical.

After that, comes the get to know her process.

That process will determine where she fits on my rotational hierarchy.

Do not get the wrong idea though.

Wow, sounds like another thread idea!!

And as such, you immediately launch into sexually explicit language telling her you'd like her "fvck her ass"?

This is a serious question BTW, I'd really like to know.

Please keep this in mind..

While I am a strong advocate of both MOH and MOS (standard), ARC and I tend to go different routes when it comes to certain nuances of the method (and game, in general).

Which is why I have a version of Mode One, which fits me.

It seems to me you could get the same message across without the crass, sexually explicit and frankly disrespectful language which you must consider to be as well otherwise you'd use MOH on all women, NOT just women you view as fvck buddy.

Very perceptive, and you are correct .

With my version Mode One, I DO/WILL use it all ALL women.

Not a single woman is exempt from it because I treat all women the same (initially).

The only variance is when/where I use Mode One Hardcore...but all women are subjected to it.

I'm curious, how did you/do you approach women you don't view as fvck buddies? Why differentiate?

Every woman starts off as a FWB, by default.

Now, if things progress from there, that is a different story. But FWB by default.

Even my wife started off as a FWB.

I do not have platonic friends.

You either hold true to your style of MOH and use on ALL women you find attractive and want to fvck regardless of whether or not you view her as fvck buddy or something more, or don't use at all, opt for the direct but less crass style of standard Mode One.

I agree 100%.

I dunno, MOH seems unnecessary, especially in today's climate where women are actually being abducted off the street, sexually assaulted and even killed in some cases.

In my neck of the woods, a man, a stranger, cold approaching a woman on the street telling her he'd like to "fvck her a$$" could be considered harassment and a woman might even call the police if she feels threatened enough by it

*For the 10th time*

Women are not offended or feel harassed when they are receive sexual advances from men of whom they are sexually attracted to.

It's just not something a socially aware man would ever do.

As ARC once said..

"I've always been the exception to the rule".

And I gotta question a woman's own thought process as well for responding positively to it.

The way I look at it is this...I do not believe the average woman would jump the bones of every man who approaches her for sex.

So, if she does (for me), then there must be something about me that had her step out of her comfort zone.

So, what does that say about me?

That is how I look at it.

I mean that's just plain dumb, given like I said all that's happening with women today, being abducted, raped and murdered and no I am not exaggerating, it's happening.

I have absolutely no problem with standard Mode One, I prefer a man be direct.

And if he only wants a fvck buddy arrangement, that's fine. Not my cuppa tea but to each his own

But there is a more respectful and less crass way of telling a woman that imo.

And less risky, for both

Nuff said from me. Interesting discussion.

Ciao.

Gotcha.