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Once I was an AFC, all great DJs were AFCs. But once you have your heart broken for good you will never again be an AFC.

Why, because you have tasted the medicine of a broken heart, you realize that women are not worth more than you.

Only fools ask: Is she interested in me? Did, I blew it with her? Does she like me?

DJs know better, if it happens happens, otherwise NEXT!

-Sapiens
 

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Over the summer I was with this girl, but she had a boyfriend. So, I didn't want to take things further. I seriously know I could've got with her and I really liked her a lot. Short story...go through all summer, she starts losing interest, breaks up with boyfriend, and guess out with a kid who I had the up hand of about a month before. It's bothered me for monthes and I've dwelled on it. Only know am I realizing my lack of taking risk ended up being my downfall. I stop seeing myself as the prize, and started seeing her as the prize. Stupid mistake. I should have excepted reality and moved on.
 

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sapiens that is not true for 99% of AFC's!

that is horrible advice, and that is what produces... there is something that creates a natural DJ, but it is controversial. Controversy is the reason the world takes time to grow. When you realize that life is more than just being lucky, getting lucky, and making others feel lucky than you will see that hard woork, hard games, and hard times are necessary.

You can't inspire people to seek hard times, but you can teach them to know when they have overcome.

Teach the frustrated ones not to fear women, teach them not to love for the sake of loving. When you get into a mindset(ie I love you) you begin to look for the little things, than you blow them wayyyy out of proportion. Like one girl I worked with, I was AFC and I took her being an AW as a lovely trait, probably what every other guy that fell for her thought. mindsets are poisonous, they are addictive, but they are not forever, that is what brings the hard times, when the girl leaves you, and you believed the both of you would be together forever.

I am an evil man, I have tested the waters of love, I have talked to girls on MSN, friends of friends, the girls who've probably never been with a guy. The ug's the girls no man that weighs under 300 pounds would go for(well there are always genetic acceptions). Just imagine what you can do when you have free reign without a chance of mixing up your words.

Love is fickle, you may believe you have learned a lesson, but the next girl who comes along could snap her hip while holding your eye.... and your gone. Take the ride again and you resurface again gasping for air screaming what a ride, I'm not getting on there again. Kind of like drinking:p I love the momentum of being drunk, it brings out so many interactions, living in the bar is addictive everybody seemingly knows everybody. Nobody really falls in love there, but every night you can sit at a table and watch the lovebirds going at it, you can also find the girls with 5 guys twirled around one finger, and the guys like I used to be who can string along most any girl.

I ask all the time, does she like ME? For who I am, not what I say, or do, or work towards? I was me when I was AFC I am still me now that I am a DJ. What is me? and can she help me...

It's not against the rules of society to hope for more, if she loves you, so be it, but make sure the love is true.

For all you NEXTer's out there, what is your goal when you next? I know and have read of many a DJ who has forsaken the boards due to fear of unknown. They see AFC after AFC regardsing the board flooding it with BS tactics that do nothing for the soul. indirect game is what a DJ was initially supposed to possess. There were no SS methods squeaking their way in. health and fitness is probably the best place to look for a real DJ, but even than they are looking in the wrong place.

I really don't know where I am going with this, asll I know is that your topic is AFC.

Sapiens your topic is no secret, and it is horrible to be touted as one.
 

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Boner da Stoner, you are a chump.

I hate to be rude. You just wasted a lot of electrons. Grow up.

-Sapiens
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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well i can relate to sapiens point from personal experience. although i would never admit this to girls, i am severely damaged from a past relationship and because of this it is very hard for me to take a girl 'seriously'. to be honest its been years and i dont think it will ever happen again. but i think the point boner is trying to make is that a big heartbreak is not related to becoming a DJ. a big car accident would not make you a better driver, but it would make you more alert.

in my situation i experienced the works with just one girl over 5 years. online buddies, just friends, f'buddies, more than friends, boyfriend/girlfriend, possible marriage, f'buddies, 'experimental' meaning more than one person and ultimatley she left me for the other person. shes come back multiple times and i came back to her until one day i just couldn't handle it and cut it all off. it never went anywhere. ever since then, i have not been able to keep interest in a girl longer than a few months. i just can't justify investing the time in a female that potential could waste another 5 years of my life for a dumbass!

however this action only triggered it & i try to advise my bros on everything they can do so they dont have to experience. the only reason guys go thru heartbreaks is because we let the girl in control in the first place. true a DJ doesn't get his heartbroken often, but thats because a DJ doesn't tolerate something that isn't going for him.

when i was AFC, i played the role of a girl. i waited for something good to come my way and tried to take advantage of it. theres no need for you to know a guy and let him be an AFC. just think of the heartbreak a DJ would of saved you had he told you what to do.
 

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I am a chump, there ya go, I just supplicated, does my message now go down easier? Or is it still a cold lump of coal that youve got to swallow sometime in your life?
 

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jhs, that't the irony of the secret. Once you have been truly heartbroken I don't think it would happen to you again.

Yes, you may fall in love, but nothing will be like that crazy first time.

The dark part of the secret is that you will not ever again love 100%.

Although you will love unconditionally, you will NEVER give 100%.

Because human nature is fickle, and you know that if you show and give 100% of you; you will not be valued. Law of supply and demand. The more you give of you, the less you are valued.

-Sapiens
 

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Originally posted by Boner da Stoner
I am a chump, there ya go, I just supplicated, does my message now go down easier? Or is it still a cold lump of coal that youve got to swallow sometime in your life?
What is your message? What is the fundamental axiom in your message? Go ahead teach me something, so I may learn.

-Sapiens
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Once I was an AFC, all great DJs were AFCs. But once you have your heart broken for good you will never again be an AFC.

Why, because you have tasted the medicine of a broken heart, you realize that women are not worth more than you.

Only fools ask: Is she interested in me? Did, I blew it with her? Does she like me?

DJs know better, if it happens happens, otherwise NEXT!

-Sapiens

Im going to have to disagree not everyone falls in love,some people just wanna be loved and if they fell in love before then they still wanna be loved and they will keep looking till they find the right one.those people are ussually loners because they feel theyre not good enough for anyone.which is sad but true.
 

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there you go sapiens I couldn't have said it better
 

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I'd have to say I agree with Sapiens.

Now I know my opinions don't mean diddlysquat right now when it comes to talk of broken hearts, but I've heard something along the same lines that works out the same way.

Someone who's just learned to drive a car, they start out confident though reluctant, even vunerable. They drive slowly, do all the right proceedures. For a while it goes great, until one day when they think they've got it down, they really open here up and they hit something. A tree, lamp post, they end up writing the car off, just a crumpled, smouldering wreck.

But you know what? The next car they buy, when they drive it, they know what they're doing, they understand the dangers.
And for that one bad crush, the impact and the pain, they become better for it.

Electro.
 

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Originally posted by mroriginal Im going to have to disagree not everyone falls in love,some people just wanna be loved and if they fell in love before then they still wanna be loved and theyle will keep looking till they find the right one.those people are ussually loners because they feel theyre not good enopugh for anyone.which is sad but true. [/B]
You have a point, there are people that are ONLY takers; and they KNOW they only take but do not give.

WARNING THE FOLLOWING ONLY APPLIES TO LTRs.

I learned that to be loved you must love.

You do not ask: Do you love me?

You say: I love you

If the object of your love, also loves you, he/she will respond in kind.

May the Creator grant you the wisdom to discern those whom are only takers. May He also grant you the ability to appreciate yourself and give you humility to treat others with dignity.

-Sapiens
 

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May the Creator grant you the wisdom to discern those whom are only takers. May He also grant you the ability to appreciate yourself and give you humility to treat others with dignity.
Amen.
 

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Just cause you had your heartbrocken doesnt automatically mean your going to be banging chicks from left to right.you misunderstood what I wrote, somepeople fall in love and yes they have their heartbroken and they get depressed.but later on they feel as if they want someone to fall in love with them so they can fall right back.these people are ususally the ones who apreciate the little things people do for them because they feel that they are company and feel that they will go throught the same phase as they did with first person they fell in love with,which is sad because the other person is just trying to be generouse and not really caring for them.
But yes most people will probably be stronger after theyve loved but not all. I maybe 17 but im pretty smart for my age.
 

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Originally posted by mroriginal
I maybe 17 but im pretty smart for my age.
:crackup:

Electro Amen.
Electro, LOL :crackup: I didn't mean it to come out as a prayer, but just the same. :crackup: :rock:
 

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ahh!!you SOB I knew someone would laugh atr me for saying that afc sh*t :trouble: :box: :crackup:

Too late to edit
who cares
 

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sapiens, i have to admit i know these facts like the back of my hand and for whatever reason, i try to ignore them. i've always had a theory that girls dont take guys seriously until they're older and guys START by taking girls seriously. by the time a guy is 21, a few things are possible. he's in a LTR, hes just out of one, or hes never had one. if hes never had one, true, he simply can not under stand what this **** is about and will probably give himself away. however if hes been in a LTR and has been severely heart broken, he's pretty much done. like you said, theres no 100%. its not going to be like that one time. girls on the other hand... at one point, maybe when they're 30 or something (actually haven't reached this point myself.. theory) they realize in order to get the guy they want they've gotta determine who loves because they've got love to offer and who loves because theres a :cheer: 'special connection' :cheer: by being a guy who has no love to offer, you appear to be a lifelong challenge to a female who is constantly approached by AFCs who dont necessarily have to be persuaded to give out the loving.

i was banking on these feelings changing by the time i'm 30.. but at the rate things are going now, my mind is far too programmed to need whatever is in my best interests in any situation no matter who gets hurt behind it. i definently do not ever see myself falling in love 100% but at the same time i long for the day a girl completely swoons me and i'm 101%.

(will never happen. never.)



(never)

Originally posted by Sapiens
Yes, you may fall in love, but nothing will be like that crazy first time.

The dark part of the secret is that you will not ever again love 100%.

Although you will love unconditionally, you will NEVER give 100%.
 

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Originally posted by Sapiens
Once I was an AFC, all great DJs were AFCs. But once you have your heart broken for good you will never again be an AFC.

Why, because you have tasted the medicine of a broken heart, you realize that women are not worth more than you.

Only fools ask: Is she interested in me? Did, I blew it with her? Does she like me?

DJs know better, if it happens happens, otherwise NEXT!

-Sapiens
i completely disagree

but hey, that's just me.
 
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