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Due to automation in the home, processes are simplified. Washers are automated. Fridges reliable, bigger, colder. Food, cheaper, easier to make. Fast food IS available. TV's, programmed to precisely what we want. Computers, enable us to pay bills online, and to automate bill payment so that wives don't have to.
Yard work? That's a toss up. Men, for the most part still do it, but lawnmowers simplify it somewhat, or people just get a lawnservice. That hasn't changed either.
MEN...we still work, get degrees, fight in wars, play politics, invest, watch sports, try to raise our kids best as we can, fix cars, fix the electrical circuitry of our house, fix our computers, save for the kids college, etc, etc, etc. Right?
I mean, my Dad worked for his father, and his father worked for his father. Our family business went out of business in 1989 or so, but still, my dad worked, and was married in his mid 20's, much like his parents before him, his before him, and so on.
Right?
Most guys are like this...our time hasn't changed. We are only afforded a few time saving devices to make more money, which has only kept up with inflation, competition, and so forth. We're more interconnected than ever, so we can work anywhere in the world, and be found anywhere in the world, which is both good and bad. BUT...for men, we're still vanilla.
WOMEN...who formerly had the primary occupation of being housewives because householding WAS so tough without any automated devices, without any computers, without washers, dryers, ovens, fridges, etc...are now FREE.
They were freed through OUR devices and inventions, they were FREED through our laws, voted by politicians, yet pushed by bra burners and feminists. WE freed their TIME and their autonomy...and one would have a feeling that the LEAST we'd get is a THANKS!
BUT no, we are seen as thugs, criminals, as holding them back. HARDLY! Even before the revolution that freed women up, did they even WANT the jobs we had? Would they go over seas and fight? Would they go to the automotive factories and work? (some did, but nowhere near the % that we did)Would they slave in sales jobs, on wall street, etc??
Some might say...well if they could, they would. HARDLY. Men, would you honestly take the role of househusband? Cook. Clean. Take care of the kids.
51% of you WILL say no. I enjoy cooking, to try it out, but i'm not chef, and I don't know many men, who posed the option would COOK over FIXING a car, selling, building, or running a business unless they're a CHEF by trade. yes, I have uncles that love to love, but so do their wives, and their primary occupation is SALES, BUSINESS, etc. They have a few CHOICE recipes they make for holidays or PATS games, but they don't cook 7 days a week.
So by inherent nature we wouldn't do it. On the flip side, women gravitate toward the delights and delicacies of food preparation, of the social aspects, of the creativity, and sensuous delights
to cooking and the like.
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So roles have only changed for WOMEN. Not for men. We ARE the bedrock of society.
It's funny, guys here say things about success...and typically...they come to a conclusion...
"We start doing what works and do you know why we stopped? Because it works...things get messed up and the reason they are, is because we stopped doing what works. That's why."
I believe that. On Wall Street, they try to pitch new investment schemes all the time, but there's no NEW way to invest. They invent new ways to APPROACH it, to capture returns, but there's no NEW, NEW way. That's just the allure, the call of the sirens.
I mean...look @ DJing...or PUAing...they're all hybrids or variations. Any guru selling some EBOOK is ripping of NLP, or DAVID D, or ROBERT GREENE or ROBERT CIALDINI, some guy who's insight into women supposedly unlock the mysterys of their thights, but there's no NEW, NEW fundamentals. It's all smokescreen for the egos out there.
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The fundamentals don't change, but the society we operate within has. The relationships don't change, we or women have more freedoms. They're not tied to the home as much as they are required to be, so in turn, they can be working part-time, or full if they choose.
Because of freedoms and the right to vote, they have some control over their destiny, rather than looping it around 1 man. But in the end, the EXPECTATION is still there for there to be only 1 man to give them everything they ever dreamed of just like their father did.
I don't say this to be a misogynist, but to be a realist.
1. Invention.
2. Politics.
= Changes in Socity that freed women and altered the home.
Male roles' have not changed, but we're asking to change now, by who?
Women...yes, that's right. AHA! Because before, the only ones dictating what was seen or not, was men. Women had little say. They weren't in board rooms. They weren't in companies. They didn't start companies. They couldn't vote. So society was shaped mostly by men.
Now, it's an equal to or greater match by women shaping men.
Metrosexuals. Weaker laws. Accceptance of homosexuality and obesity. Pornography EVERYWHERE. Slvtty attitudes. Girls are better than boys shirts. Women want to be on the PGA tour, but they don't want men on the LPGA tour. Women want to bring little babies to sports games, where cussing and beer guzzling occurs.
The PC element introduced into society like a vicious disease is done to DUMB down the grotesqueness of life. It's a knock down on a movie rating, from R to PG13, to eventually G. Stop men from being mean, hostile, etc, especially in the work place, yet open up society to NEW ideas, to femininity or sexuality.
Many of the vices snuck behind the feminist movement because some clever profiteers saw the potential and were thinking "damn, we can do something here!"
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Have we men changed?
INwardly...NO.
Externally...YES.
We're not fighting back...
A guy has options. He can do his desires, or say fvck it, and just accept what is, use women, be a professional, travel, fvck hoes, and MAYBE have a family, which is unlikely given the obstacles right now. Those are the BASIC options at 2 extremes.
OR, he fights back. Claims the last remants of the free world, or not so free as his that he, and his forefathers fought for.
Heck, Jesse Ventura is LEAVING the country. He doesn't believe our laws are fair, that we are in fact free and can't stand it. He said this while Ted Nugent was being interviewed. Honestly, I have respect for both of them because they are out there doing something different. They're not some paid-for politician lobbying for corporations, taking his free health care and awaiting their fat pensions. They're in the midst of it, speaking out, good or bad. And taking a position and a stand. The rest are just floating in a pool in the middle going with the tide.
So my answer?
Roles have not changed. Not for men. We accept what roles we choose, we are not forced to accept them. We're given more personal freedom, which is being squandered.
A-Unit
I do not believe roles have changed, opportunity has been brought forth.
Due to automation in the home, processes are simplified. Washers are automated. Fridges reliable, bigger, colder. Food, cheaper, easier to make. Fast food IS available. TV's, programmed to precisely what we want. Computers, enable us to pay bills online, and to automate bill payment so that wives don't have to.
Yard work? That's a toss up. Men, for the most part still do it, but lawnmowers simplify it somewhat, or people just get a lawnservice. That hasn't changed either.
MEN...we still work, get degrees, fight in wars, play politics, invest, watch sports, try to raise our kids best as we can, fix cars, fix the electrical circuitry of our house, fix our computers, save for the kids college, etc, etc, etc. Right?
I mean, my Dad worked for his father, and his father worked for his father. Our family business went out of business in 1989 or so, but still, my dad worked, and was married in his mid 20's, much like his parents before him, his before him, and so on.
Right?
Most guys are like this...our time hasn't changed. We are only afforded a few time saving devices to make more money, which has only kept up with inflation, competition, and so forth. We're more interconnected than ever, so we can work anywhere in the world, and be found anywhere in the world, which is both good and bad. BUT...for men, we're still vanilla.
WOMEN...who formerly had the primary occupation of being housewives because householding WAS so tough without any automated devices, without any computers, without washers, dryers, ovens, fridges, etc...are now FREE.
They were freed through OUR devices and inventions, they were FREED through our laws, voted by politicians, yet pushed by bra burners and feminists. WE freed their TIME and their autonomy...and one would have a feeling that the LEAST we'd get is a THANKS!
BUT no, we are seen as thugs, criminals, as holding them back. HARDLY! Even before the revolution that freed women up, did they even WANT the jobs we had? Would they go over seas and fight? Would they go to the automotive factories and work? (some did, but nowhere near the % that we did)Would they slave in sales jobs, on wall street, etc??
Some might say...well if they could, they would. HARDLY. Men, would you honestly take the role of househusband? Cook. Clean. Take care of the kids.
51% of you WILL say no. I enjoy cooking, to try it out, but i'm not chef, and I don't know many men, who posed the option would COOK over FIXING a car, selling, building, or running a business unless they're a CHEF by trade. yes, I have uncles that love to love, but so do their wives, and their primary occupation is SALES, BUSINESS, etc. They have a few CHOICE recipes they make for holidays or PATS games, but they don't cook 7 days a week.
So by inherent nature we wouldn't do it. On the flip side, women gravitate toward the delights and delicacies of food preparation, of the social aspects, of the creativity, and sensuous delights
to cooking and the like.
-------------------------
So roles have only changed for WOMEN. Not for men. We ARE the bedrock of society.
It's funny, guys here say things about success...and typically...they come to a conclusion...
"We start doing what works and do you know why we stopped? Because it works...things get messed up and the reason they are, is because we stopped doing what works. That's why."
I believe that. On Wall Street, they try to pitch new investment schemes all the time, but there's no NEW way to invest. They invent new ways to APPROACH it, to capture returns, but there's no NEW, NEW way. That's just the allure, the call of the sirens.
I mean...look @ DJing...or PUAing...they're all hybrids or variations. Any guru selling some EBOOK is ripping of NLP, or DAVID D, or ROBERT GREENE or ROBERT CIALDINI, some guy who's insight into women supposedly unlock the mysterys of their thights, but there's no NEW, NEW fundamentals. It's all smokescreen for the egos out there.
--------------------------
The fundamentals don't change, but the society we operate within has. The relationships don't change, we or women have more freedoms. They're not tied to the home as much as they are required to be, so in turn, they can be working part-time, or full if they choose.
Because of freedoms and the right to vote, they have some control over their destiny, rather than looping it around 1 man. But in the end, the EXPECTATION is still there for there to be only 1 man to give them everything they ever dreamed of just like their father did.
I don't say this to be a misogynist, but to be a realist.
1. Invention.
2. Politics.
= Changes in Socity that freed women and altered the home.
Male roles' have not changed, but we're asking to change now, by who?
Women...yes, that's right. AHA! Because before, the only ones dictating what was seen or not, was men. Women had little say. They weren't in board rooms. They weren't in companies. They didn't start companies. They couldn't vote. So society was shaped mostly by men.
Now, it's an equal to or greater match by women shaping men.
Metrosexuals. Weaker laws. Accceptance of homosexuality and obesity. Pornography EVERYWHERE. Slvtty attitudes. Girls are better than boys shirts. Women want to be on the PGA tour, but they don't want men on the LPGA tour. Women want to bring little babies to sports games, where cussing and beer guzzling occurs.
The PC element introduced into society like a vicious disease is done to DUMB down the grotesqueness of life. It's a knock down on a movie rating, from R to PG13, to eventually G. Stop men from being mean, hostile, etc, especially in the work place, yet open up society to NEW ideas, to femininity or sexuality.
Many of the vices snuck behind the feminist movement because some clever profiteers saw the potential and were thinking "damn, we can do something here!"
------------------------------
Have we men changed?
INwardly...NO.
Externally...YES.
We're not fighting back...
A guy has options. He can do his desires, or say fvck it, and just accept what is, use women, be a professional, travel, fvck hoes, and MAYBE have a family, which is unlikely given the obstacles right now. Those are the BASIC options at 2 extremes.
OR, he fights back. Claims the last remants of the free world, or not so free as his that he, and his forefathers fought for.
Heck, Jesse Ventura is LEAVING the country. He doesn't believe our laws are fair, that we are in fact free and can't stand it. He said this while Ted Nugent was being interviewed. Honestly, I have respect for both of them because they are out there doing something different. They're not some paid-for politician lobbying for corporations, taking his free health care and awaiting their fat pensions. They're in the midst of it, speaking out, good or bad. And taking a position and a stand. The rest are just floating in a pool in the middle going with the tide.
So my answer?
Roles have not changed. Not for men. We accept what roles we choose, we are not forced to accept them. We're given more personal freedom, which is being squandered.
A-Unit
