7 dates until I found her inner b i t c h

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Yeah Bonhomme, she is getting a bit more comfortable. On our 4th date she really hit me with some skeletons in her closet.

Then the 5th date was good and the 6th date was date (really good sex that night).

I was gone for a week out of town and really looking forward to her for this 7th date. I show up a bit too early for her liking and the stage was set for a crappy date.

I am retreating for a few days at least. Hopefully she will contact me first.

The thing that sucks a bit more about this is I have Christmas plans and New Years (out of town plans with hotel, dinner and some other reservations). I need to know whats going on so I can figure out whether or not to cancel it soon.
 
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Originally posted by Ricky
Yeah Bonhomme, she is getting a bit more comfortable. On our 4th date she really hit me with some skeletons in her closet.

Then the 5th date was good and the 6th date was date (really good sex that night).

I was gone for a week out of town and really looking forward to her for this 7th date. I show up a bit too early for her liking and the stage was set for a crappy date.

I am retreating for a few days at least. Hopefully she will contact me first.

The thing that sucks a bit more about this is I have Christmas plans and New Years (out of town plans with hotel, dinner and some other reservations). I need to know whats going on so I can figure out whether or not to cancel it soon.

What do you mean by hopefully she will contact you?

Contact you for what purpose? Just cause the sex was good? Just for that one little moment that you release yourself...cause that is all it is.

There is more to a relationship than good sex bruh. There's respect and trust and love.

Of which she has shown NONE!!!

Why are you

WAISTING YOUR TIME WITH THIS HIZZOR???

Let her ass go. Don't sit back and wait for her to call you. This is a prime example of why she disrepects you. GROW some nutz and get out and start meeting new women...and not just one or two.

I will now post something that I've put up on this site again and again and again and again....and hopefully for the last time:

"When you date only a few women you will fall prey to misconceptions and bitter downward spirals of attitudes which will block your ability to meet other women. When you date a lot of women you have the ability to learn more about what does and doesn’t work for you. You have the option of finding those traits that you desire vs those that don’t work for you. Thereby you learn to take control of your whole dating life."--THE DATING TRUTH , EBOOK

Read this shyt and commit it to your mind. Date lots of women so that you have control over YOUR dating life and experiences so you don't have to sit back and take **** from NO HO's.
 

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Fortunately I do have a plan B in this case. Your words are advice well taken. When you only have one option it gets magnified.

My purpose in this post was to learn some things so I can handle situations better in the future. My interest in this girl had been dropping anyways.
 

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Originally posted by Player_Supreme
Which is why your on a mens dating site looking for answers to fix what's wrong in your own personal life right!

Maybe, Maybe not my way wouldn't work on you because you hang out here and your exposed to mens game level now. But you and I have never met. My energy tends to be over powering.

Abnoxious girls I don't put up with...as I did with the Pathologist last night. She had the nerve to ask me to buy her a drink...so I said to her:

What? You buy me a drink...you make more money than I do.

She responded with:

You know what that's rude and insulting.

I interupted her with:

Well consider yourself insulted then.

She bought her own drink and proceeded to give me her life story....boyfriend bought her a $75,000.00 ingagement ring and she rejected it... cause she isn't in love with him and he thinks materialistic just cause he owns a very large company...blah blah blah...

Until I got rid of her. If your anything half as Chicago type as she was you wouldn't last a minute either...lol@ya
I'm not here to get answers...I give advice. I'm a woman who essentially thinks more like a man. That's shown to be somewhat helpful to a lot of guys on here. The methods used on here aren't effective on me and never have been. Heck, before I ever heard of speed seduction it had been tried on me by a guy I was attracted to and even liked his personality. It didn't work. I guess most of it is because I can spot "games" a mile away and am turned off by them. I just don't have the patience for them...but it's cool because I don't play them, either.

Oh, and I've never asked anyone to buy me a drink. That's cheesy. I don't usually allow others to buy me drinks, either unless I return the favor the next round. I always buy my own unless I'm on a date, and in that case I usually offer to pay my half unless I'm out with a guy I know would be bothered by a woman paying.
 

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UPDATE GUYS.

YEAH SHE CALLED ME, AND CANCELLED OUR CHRISTMAS AND NEW YEARS PLANS.

I'm relieved because she cancelled it and now I don't look like the bad guy. It feels great.

I can't remember a time when I was actually happy about a girl flaking on me. She was such a total HOR B I T C H, that I am relieved.
 

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GREAT NEWS TOO.

Other than a few very small items, I hadn't bought her anything for Christmas of significance. Now I'm off the hook!
 

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haha... screw that man, you shouldn't have bought her anything anyways. You don't win a girl's respect by buying her presents. If she really respected you, taking time out of your "busy" schedual to be with her should have been enough. Don't feel obligated because you've known her for 2 months that you have to buy her something.

I personally wouldn't buy anything till I've been with a girl for over a year... then MAYBE they might get something.
 
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Originally posted by Wyldfire
I'm not here to get answers...I give advice. I'm a woman who essentially thinks more like a man. That's shown to be somewhat helpful to a lot of guys on here. The methods used on here aren't effective on me and never have been. Heck, before I ever heard of speed seduction it had been tried on me by a guy I was attracted to and even liked his personality. It didn't work. I guess most of it is because I can spot "games" a mile away and am turned off by them. I just don't have the patience for them...but it's cool because I don't play them, either.

Oh, and I've never asked anyone to buy me a drink. That's cheesy. I don't usually allow others to buy me drinks, either unless I return the favor the next round. I always buy my own unless I'm on a date, and in that case I usually offer to pay my half unless I'm out with a guy I know would be bothered by a woman paying.
1. I'm sorry Wyldfire but I don't really know anything about the speed seduction techniques. What I've heard I don't think that crap would work on any woman of intelligence or as intelligent as you appear to be.

2. I'm glad you would never ask a man to buy you a drink. I agree that is cheesy. You seem like a good woman, why are you single?
 

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I'm in agreement with Player Supreme here.

Tolerating disrespect from a woman shows a lack of respect for yourself.

I consider myself to be an extremely patient person and while I will not tolerate b*tchiness I will usually give them a chance to realize their error and I may even help them figure it out. However, if it continues then I am out.

Here's what I usually do:

If she's being a beatch then I will just stare right at her silently. Many chicks will try to drag you into their drama. They want you to get worked up. By silently staring you really get her attention.

I wait for her to blow off her steam and then just leave that silent pause hanging there till its almost uncomfortable.

Then I'll say, "Are you finished?"

When she is I'll say, "Good cuz I don't want to hear anymore of that attitude."

She'll ask "What attitude?"

Then I just explain that she is being disrespectful and I won't tolerate it.

That's it plain and simple. Do not let a chick pull you into her little dramatic b*tchy episodes. EVER. I see guys doing this all the time and it is so weak.

If you do as Player says and put her in her place the 1st time she acts up then you will be alot better off in the future.

I once bought a chick a teddy bear out of the blue because she was acting like a beatch. She thought I was being nice and trying to cheer her up. I told her that if she was going to act like a baby then I'd treat her like one. She was quiet for a while but smartened up afterwards.
 

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Just find a non-***** woman! After 7 dates this **** is being pulled? Ive been dating a girl for over 8 months and there has never been an once of *****iness directed towards me. I would definately not put up with crap like that. Do yourself a favor and look for another woman.
 

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OK, that settled it

So, she is a b i t c h, and you're free. Better luck with the next one, and good thing you didn't buy her any expensive gifts :).

My philosophy about gifts is that they're just that. Gifts. Something you want to give somebody because you feel they deserve it and you want them to feel good, not something you give somebody to try to impress them and make them like you more.

If you ever regret giving a gift, you've obviously given it insincerely or for the wrong reason.

This deserves its own thread, given the time of the season.
 

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Guys I have to admit I'm kind of pissed that I didn't tell her off. Part of it is because it's my friends wifes sister. I don't want to be a total jerk (even though I feel it is well within my right to give her hell for what she did) because I don't want my friends wife to get upset and make it uncomfortable for me.

So I have to bite my lip. I'm out some money for new years too, the hotel charged me a cancellation fee and I've yet to find out if the tickets for a band that night will be refunded. I certainly hope so.
 

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Any of you young guys thinking of entering a relationship better read all of Player Supreme's advice if you want that relationship to last.

My AFCness cost me my LTR, frankly, becuase this woman that was supposed to love me had zero respect for me.

Her bytchiness and her understanding that I would put up with it destroyed us. She was so manipulative with this sh*t. Always playing the sweet, nice young girl.

It got to the point that when I did actually call her on her sh*t, that it was too late. She was very good at calling the 'abuse' card. So good, in fact, that I was rendered neutered.

Her mentality got to this point:

"Don't like what I'm saying?" Too bad, if you protest, and even ever so slightly raise your voice, I will call the "Abuse" card.

I have never laid a finger on a woman in my life.

In fact, she would try to tell me what to do, would disrespect me in front of friends and family, and if I got mad, she would bring out the 'abuse' card.

She constantly would accuse me of being 'abusive', when in fact, it was she who was the abuser - she got b*tchier and b*tchier all the time - dripping with sarcasm, pushing my buttons, trying to goad me into anger, so that she could pull out - you guessed it - the 'abuse' card.

The extent that I was an abuser was to call her a f*cking b*tch when she was, indeed, being one. This was out of frustration because of my own wimpiness.

I wouldn't have had to deal with this crap had I been on this site, and it cost me a relationship that I invested YEARS in.

And if you don't listen to Playa's advice - it will only get worse as the relationship progresses. She will try to get away with more and more sh*t until she OWNS you.

She will constantly MAGNIFY your transgressions, however slight they may be, and MINIMISE her own - even if hers are ten times worse. This is how they will get the power - even the nice sweet innocent ones. Guaranteed. This is how they employ this system that feminism has created for them.

It got to the point of being so unbearable, that I had no choice but to launch her (meaning, end the relationship, not physically 'launch' her, although the thought crossed my mind).

I mean, who wants a relationship like that? I have no doubt she loved me, but there was never any real respect on her part, and that is so paramount, and if she is abusive by nature, well, all I can say is - look out.

You will become nothing but an angry, frustrated man and it will take a toll on your entire life if you don't start out having a spine. - and if she plays the abuse card alot, who knows, it could even become a self-fulfilling prophecy, as you will get more and more fed up with her.

The little game got so twisted on her part, that the argument that ended it all was her buying big ticket items without consulting me, and when I got mad and gave her sh*t for it I got a left hook to the face so hard I thought Mike Tyson himself popped me one.

Nope, Playa Supreme ain't wrong on this sh*t, he is so spot on the money, it's scary.
 
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As an addendum: In the 8 or so months that I've been on this site I have done an almost 180 degree turnaround from my WBAFC days.

I learned how to weed out women like this, and have avoided potential relationships with women who have serious problems whom I otherwise would have involved myself with.

I am now seeing a fine woman who loves to please me in every way. It is a big adjustment being treated so well - cooked for, having my place cleaned, regular blow jobs and she buys me stuff - I was just given a very expensive leather jacket.

This is from following the advice of guys like Player_Supreme and further evidence that he is someone who's advice should be heeded. Personal thanks to Player and other guys like Puerto Rican Lover and everyone else who made me see the error of my ways , helped me grow a set, and helped me improve my love life. All the best in the New Year guys. I'd say Merry Christmas, but the politically correct homo supporting feminazi man hating leftist crowd might jump all my evil Hetero sexual male - Christian arse.
 

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I have to tell everyone that there is some golden advice in this thread. First off I really appreciate it.

Second, I can't advise everyone strongly enough that dating more than one woman is a good idea, at least until you find one that's more compatible.

Because I have been dating a few women, I was able to completely change my plans. Now I am spending New Years in a place that is alot warmer, with a girl that is alot more affectionate, better in bed and with a much better attitude. Did I mention she is better looking too?

After cancelling a few reservations I booked new ones with a girl that has high interest in me and I have high interest in her.

My problem sometimes is I take too long to find out what I want and I am too willing to compromise at times. The b i t c h y girl this time was even a bit more of a problem since we were setup by friends.

I told her last night I'd tell her when I had everything cancelled I'm not sure now if I will ever even give her a courtesy e-mail or phone call. It feels great.

And I only had about $30 worth of gifts so far for her, so that's not a big deal at all. I can dump that stuff off on someone else.

Ricky
 
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Originally posted by Don Juanabbe
As an addendum: In the 8 or so months that I've been on this site I have done an almost 180 degree turnaround from my WBAFC days.

I learned how to weed out women like this, and have avoided potential relationships with women who have serious problems whom I otherwise would have involved myself with.

I am now seeing a fine woman who loves to please me in every way. It is a big adjustment being treated so well - cooked for, having my place cleaned, regular blow jobs and she buys me stuff - I was just given a very expensive leather jacket.

This is from following the advice of guys like Player_Supreme and further evidence that he is someone who's advice should be heeded. Personal thanks to Player and other guys like Puerto Rican Lover and everyone else who made me see the error of my ways , helped me grow a set, and helped me improve my love life. All the best in the New Year guys. I'd say Merry Christmas, but the politically correct homo supporting feminazi man hating leftist crowd might jump all my evil Hetero sexual male - Christian arse.
Your very welcome!
 

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Any ideas on a good parting shot e-mail?

I'd like to give her a bit of the medicine back. Here's kind of what I thought about sending to her.

But this is way too classy and nice to send, although it does tell her I moved on.

Susan,

I cancelled out the New Years plans yesterday. With the exception of the tickets to see the band, I think I’m ok minus a small penalty charge that hotel.com gave me. I hope I get a refund on the band tickets but they haven’t returned my phone call or e-mail. No big deal though.

I’m glad we both decided to cancel it out with several days to go before New Years rather than the last minute. It gave me enough time to book an airplane ticket to someplace warm (think out West) where I can celebrate New Years with some of my friends.

I hope there are no hard feelings between us. I have no problem being friends and feel free to give me a call or e-mail me any time. I enjoyed going out with you and think you are a great girl in many ways. I can really say I had a lot of fun most of the time we were together. On some things we didn’t see eye to eye but that’s to be expected, (heck you are only 5 ft 3 anyways).

Have a great Christmas and New Years,

Ricky
 

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Originally posted by Player_Supreme
1. I'm sorry Wyldfire but I don't really know anything about the speed seduction techniques. What I've heard I don't think that crap would work on any woman of intelligence or as intelligent as you appear to be.

2. I'm glad you would never ask a man to buy you a drink. I agree that is cheesy. You seem like a good woman, why are you single?
Telling me that I'm intelligent won't make me agree with you. Nice try, though.

I'm single because I haven't met a man I deem to be good enough to warrant investing the time and effort to have a relationship with. I do have a friend who is worth the effort, but he lives too far away. I'm not one to be with someone just for the sake of not being alone. I don't settle.
 

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Wyldfire, how far is too far away for you? I know this is a side issue, but most people on this board are so anti Long Distance Relationship. I think there are some obvious reasons for that.

On the other hand, I met a girl that lives far away that really seems to be alot more of what I'm looking for than any of the multitude of girls I've gone out with recently.
 
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