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Logged in just to agree with what everyone before had said: excellent advice. Thinking with this kind of mindset will really help the notion of thinking we are the "catch".

I wouldn't mind hooking up with a girl that has a bf, but never if its a friend. Even some pots are blacker than some kettles.

^lmao thats beautiful.

Why not kino? It does wonders for me, even women in relationship become more 'receptive' and reciprocate it. I even have problems keeping women as friends by becoming so touchy and sexual to them. This is all after learning about ss and becoming a DJ.

Great thanks. I always knew I needed to escalate but didnt quite know how to transition between the different types of kino.

Ah I see, so each time I touch her I gradually increase the amount of time my hand is on her?

How should I go with the more overt kino such as holding my hand on her arm/hand/thigh?

Say I do escalate up to the kiss but get rejected, would it not make it awkward between us in the future?

Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated. Is there a more subtly way of doing this? The thing is, she's a part of my social circle in school since we have classes everyday and spend a good amount of time studying together. I'm more worried about burning bridges if the kiss test fails. But if...

Purpose: Plant sexual seeds in her mind about me and MAYBE undermine her current relationship. But please don't argue ethics with me. Even though she has a bf, she is VERY receptive to my kino and she even initiates it herself. I've known her for a bit over a month and the first two weeks...

Nicely said. I already understand she's not gf material and I'm already unattaching myself as I can feel one-itis creeping in. Hopefully the next time we have another 1on1 day, I'll do something to escalate. But in the meantime, I'll continue kino. However, I'm worried about the potential...

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There are risks that come with the territory, like everything else in life. I've already considered what might happen. Thanks, I'll try to have a more laid-back approach at this and let her push the envelope while I escalate in baby steps. Do you mind explaining what frame? I'm new to...

Well written and I really appreciate your insight. I don't expect a relationship from her and at the most - fooling around/or a fling. I'm trying to emotionally un-attach myself incase of a fallout and a major reason why I choose to pursue this chick is because its helping me get over my ex.

I forgot to mention 2 separate incidents where: - she asked our mutual friend if I ever had a gf. The friend told her I had an ex that I broke up with a while ago and she sounded surprised. This was all relayed to me when I saw the friend again. - another one where I got her number, I told her...

Yeah that would be the logical way to see if she's really interested. I'll try to increase kino and isolate her for some 1on1 time because I see her everyday as we have all the same classes.

You have a point. But I've never dealt with a girl with a bf before, so this is uncharted territory for me.

This chick I've been gaming for the past 2 weeks finally mentioned her bf. We were in a discussion about people we know who have a sickness/disease when she subtly mentioned "my boyfriend's friend had a tumor...". I almost didnt hear it but I kept the conversation flowing. She only mentioned...

What does it mean when she asks a mutual friend if i ever had a gf? She asked her when i went to class instead of asking when i was there. The friend told her i broke up with the ex and she sounded surprised. This is the same girl in a relationship

Excellent advice.