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I just used stalluproar's method and I'll see how it goes. I think tit's ((.)(.)) position is too extreme. I've received calls back from women with higher interest levels.

This is like the female equivalent of a sub-AFC. She's not so socially adept that she can even handle herself alone. NEXT her.

Your perspective doesn't belong here. This is a site for straight men to talk about strategies for attracting and having sex with women. It's necessary because the society you're supporting has actually weakened men in a way that both men and women don't like.

Re: Re: Re: I still don't understand this.. Ok, so you're not really saying that there's no emotion. You're saying that you're delaying gratification during the pickup phase. There's still some emotion driving it.

Shezzler, For all this theory you're mentioning here, are you getting any results? Can you relate a specific battle plan you created to a positive outcome?

Re: I still don't understand this.. Is this state actually desirable? If you don't feel anything for women, why even bother? Seems like you'd just take up a hobby like stamp collecting or something. That's the thing for me. It seems like, unemotionality is emphasized to the point that...

Hey, let me give you another way to look at it. Don't worry about being "a man". You have two testicles and a penis, so you're a man. Heck you'd be one with only one, look at lance armstrong. What this site and these ideas are really all about are strategies that are effective in...

No, if she was that specific, something must have come up. Don't get worried about it, but assume the best, make sure that you have something important to do adn then either catch up with her later or move on to the next chick.

I don't think they want emotional stimulation. If that were true, they'd go after the more sensitive, emotional men. They want power. And something else, but I'm not sure what that is. I did come up with a slightly different perspective. We're talking about HB8-10s on this board. UG5s aren't...

no, don't do that. I don't want overzealous moderation, I just want to come to the board and discuss and get information. overzealous moderation is bad moderation.

If you consider the way this whole tihng is set up, a woman can have no personality, no redeeming characteristics, and still get laid and get attention from men at least initially. On the other hand, a man has to have looks, skills, and possibly property to get women. do the math real...

A follow up question: Do you think LBJFing women are worth the effort? I think it might be better to just play the odds.

Hold on, hold on. Women aren't thinking this deeply when they LBJF a guy, they're just scared so they push away. that's all there is too it.

Are you good at sticking to programs? I'm not, but what has helped is that I'll do a practice session at home, and then when I run errands I'll try to use what I've learned on the women I meet. If you do have a lot of discipline, you're set.

I thought I'd mention that it seems that most successful people aren't that philosophical. They're just driven workaholics. The rest of us either don't care, or we sit around thinking about what drives the driven ones. I've got a platonic friend who's very successful, your standard...

I've got to the point where a couple of days a week, I go into town and work the field. I've actually approached women, and even secured their names on occasion. I've gotten much better at the initial smile and at managing the 'playfulness', ie, the C&F that is so important. So I've...