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Rollo Tomassi, Interesting take you've presented on this. It sounds like you're saying a single older woman reaches an age when she starts to "settle for the next best thing", her nice guy friend. The only thing I'm curious about is, once her mental paradigm shifts, can she have genuine...

Ricky, What adler321 said. Get involved in other things so that you're not thinking about women so much. Until you find the one (or ones) that are suitable for you, you'll necessarily have to go through many. Think of it like this. Many tons of rock & dirt have to be dug up and sifted...

don_bozo, The cat's out of the bag now. NEXT THIS CHICK IMMEDIATELY. No waiting. No thinking. NEXT HER RIGHT NOW. If you don't clear this chick out of your life you're really going to be miserable if you continue seeing her. She's want you to be that "nice guy friend" in her life...

seanjohn, This girl didn't have any problem being alone with you, asked you to give her a massage and then proceeded to give you one AFTER REQUESTING IT FROM YOU. All indications point to interest in you. Now that you've gotten that validation...go for it. By the way, welcome to the...

DJD, If you don't want to hook-up with the other chick, just run interference for your buddy. That's it. Cheers, Mav

subsonic, Welcome to the forum. Remember, try to implement as much of what the DJ Bible espouses as you can instead of just reading about it. There's nothing like field experience. Yeah, I would also say NEXT this chick. Cheers, Mav

Guys, Don't get hung up on the statistics. So what if you've approached x numbers of times and the girls ponied up their digits x number of times and then they ALL flaked when it came time to setup a date? Keep going, learning and polishing your game. YOU WILL HOOK UP WITH A GIRL THAT...

DJ_Dud, LTR's entail a somewhat different dynamic than when you're first hooking up with a chick. In my opinion, this is what has to be in place, generally, for a LTR to work: 1) Compatibility --- mental, emotion, spiritual, physical (sexual) 2) Coincidence of major life values and...

Kaine, I have to say that I disagree with your proposed option 4 because don_bozo has unwittingly placed himself in the unenviable position of asking "where is this relationship going" first. He's played his hand and now, in my opinion, he has to conduct damage control. don_bozo's far...

Blackstar, Your questions --- 1) sex in your van --- just take a step back for every two crank up steps forward. For example, kissing, deep kissing and then light touching of her boobs going back to deep kissing only. Then deep kissing, light touching of her boobs to heavier groping and...

the hottest sex? That's easy...in a sauna that was about 40 degress celsius with about 90 percent humidity. It was steaming hot sex. Don't complain now seabreeze, you started this...:cool: No, that's totally wrong and I'm extremely offended that a woman should be addressed in this way...

don_bozo, Buddy, you're killing me over here...:p Seriously, you shouldn't have asked the chick this: You've only been going out for a few weeks my friend. Any "relationship" type questions should only be coming squarely from her because she should be concerned if you want to keep her...

Egocontrol, If you want to see this girl then see her, but play it cool. Call her and since she's interested in seeing you, you can now set the pace. Crank her up a little by saying, in your first conversation that you might be able to fit her in your social schedule in about 3 or 4...

LOL. Yeah Ladiesssman did your friend pay up? Ladiesssman, major props on having the balls to make the approach and get the digits. Don't concern yourself about the flakiness of that girl who gave you her number. We've all had that happen to us at one time or another. You'll pull...

And now on to other matters... Of course men do the choosing and not women. Men choose and women accept. That's why guys are concerned about their advances being received. When a girl's advances are not received she thinks the guy is either gay or thinks of her as a friend. There...

Lordlaxative, Bud it seems like your original thread has been sidetracked, so to answer your question --- ignore the target girl and act cool & aloof while all the other guys are fawning over her. This will make her think,"Why isn't he interested in me while all these other guys are?"...

OceanWindRider, Welcome. You're in good company with the sosuavers. If you haven't already, read the DJ Bible. Props for starting the BC. I hope that your BC doesn't go easy and it challenges your perceptions and especially your comfort limits. The only way to explore those mental...

BlackDragon, Of course make a move if you're interested in this girl. If she does feel uncomfortable around you, just make sure that you don't. As long as you're at ease, she'll relax too. Use her discomfort as an opportunity to crank her up and then run with it. Just my 2 cents...

Dayr0n, You got the response you wanted from this chick so don't sweat over the technicalities of it. It doesn't need to be perfect - the execution, the "time on station", and the exit. If you feel that you need to polish your game then by all means do so. There's always room for...

40quid, I agree and echo the thinking you've presented in your post, almost in it's entirety but with the following exception: That is so not true. Why? I'll elaborate in a moment. Take a look at what you alluded to in your first post: That woman was attracted to you but you...