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This is one of the most accurate statements I ever read about forums like this one. Even in the Mature Man forum, one can sometimes see some people taking DJ philosophy to a misinterpreted extreme that ultimately results in the embracing of pubescent values. If you've set out to take a big...

And that's why you're on a internet forum carrying on with the thought process and values commonly seen in high school boys...

:crackup: The statement quoted above has got to be one of the biggest loads of horse $hit I've seen shoveled on this forum yet. :crackup: Oh man...

I share that same exact position, which is the root of the somewhat militant tone in my first post on this thread. As I've mentioned before, a father who cheats on his wife is also cheating on his kids. I can accept the notion of temptation; but as a father, I gladly accept avoiding situations...

DjVelvet, what kind of response were you hoping to get when you posted your issue here? Were you looking for people to tell you it's ok? Dude, you pissed all over your wife and kids for the sake of an orgasm. They may never find out, but you'll always know. You can lie to everyone except for...

^^^^ That. Not everyone has the same values. Zuck has his own values...and he seems to be content being a "regular guy" and having a "regular life." And that's okay.

Maybe not in your school. As someone who lost his virginity to his 10th grade English teacher at age 15 in 1988 (she was 37 then), I can honestly tell you those kinds of teachers were around even before you got to high school. In my case, I was smart enough to not tell a soul (no matter how...

Those status updates were painful to read. Even at my worst and lowest AFC moments, and despite getting involved to varying degrees with a couple of single moms when I was younger, I still always felt deep down inside that the stepdad role was definitely NOT for me, and knew there was NO future...

My wife's last time is hyphenated (we've been married almost a year and a half). Once married, I gave her my reasons for why it's important to me that she not hyphenate, but she said she'd feel like she's losing part of herself. I've since realized it's not that big a deal to me. It's not as...

Well that goes without saying. I wasn't referring to going to an AFC extent...I was referring to a healthy change of priorities required of a mature married man/father, ie. being a great, available dad who provides and protects, plays a big role in the child's life, looks out for his children's...

It's been reported that fatherhood can result in a decline of testosterone. If that's the case, then I'm blessed to be able to pay such a tiny price for something so awesome. ;) Like I said...a reshuffling of priorities and values. ;)

As zekko mentioned, it's common to have the point of view you have about marriage at age 27. I basically had that point of view until I met my wife at age 33. As for raising children "seeming" like fun: it didn't "seem" fun to me when I was 27; but then again, I was focused on other things in...

I don't dwell on it, but since the prom issue was brought up...looking back, I sometimes wish I would've gone. Just to have been a more "normal" type of dude for at least that event, which would've at least involved having some kind of a rapport with chicks, rather than being the socially...

I do base it on that. Having a child changes you in ways you wouldn't believe, and one doesn't understand this until one goes through it. Reading about it or hearing about it from those who have gone through it are no substitutes. If having a child doesn't change a person, that person just...

That was my point all along. Thank you Captain Obvious. If you weren't a guy in his 50s who says "thank heaven for little girls" and claims that ALL men check out junior high girls who developed early, your comment above might carry some weight.

More like argument from experience. I don't expect to convince or persuade here. People's minds are made up, and people always find a way to rationalize and try to normalize their deviance. But like I said before...when I was 22 and childless, I wouldn't have even cared about such a topic...

That's an alternative to getting "Awww you're so sweet" with that certain tone that flat out tells you that you're not getting anywhere with her, even before she fires off the rest of her explanation. Those of us here who've gotten that before know what I'm talking about. With this letter...

Come back and talk to me about this when you have a daughter of your own. If you end up never having one, you'll just never understand.

Right, because there is such a world of difference between ages 13 and 14. :rolleyes: To the mods: Isn't the MM forum is for those aged 25+...?

I've thought the same exact thing about Sosuave. If all that constant rhetoric about biological imperatives and spreading one's seed is to mean anything at all, it is for the actual propagation of the species, not tossing one's seed into a condom or a woman's mouth. I do see a lot of convenient...