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And the moral of the story is have more plates for those dates which i dont It isnt that easy for some of us to easily get 3-4 dates so they are on tap. Tbh i am having such a bad time going on dates with obnoxious attention seekers whoss life revolves around posting pics on instagram it has...

We only just met 3 times playing sport she agreed to my date idea then suddenly did a 180 over the weekend When things were going well i told her to clear her schedule for saturday night as i was taking her out on a proper date. She laughed and agreed. (Prior to this she suggested to go coffee...

What if she is travelling abroad next week?

As a rule of thumb the 2 strikes rule seems to work well when dealing with HB's but have any of you had varying degrees of success depending how long you waited in between strikes? Say you ask a girl out and she flakes, when do you try again to apply the second strike? Is 1 week or 2 weeks too...

No more so asking the question for those who have experienced going out with someone who ended up falling with you later on down the line

What if i just want sex until the wheels fall off

But lots of guys have gotten into relationships with girls later on in the process.. all be it they dont work out but still it happens. Also if your game isnt 100% tight how do you expect her to like you from the off?

Can you give more examples of incidents of the woman lashing out and what to say without looking psycho Because the example you gave above is really really good, a thread on various sh*t tests and what to say and why could be very useful for myself and others who dont always navigaye these...

Im starting to see this despite having relationships where they fell in love with me after but because it didn't last it probably tells me why

Yeah i sense this. In my mind she is short term at best. It is 50/50 whether anything happens probably less but might as well carry on and see where it goes in a couple weeks before giving up. The messages to her are still c+f but i dont like sudden turn from her, she was all for the date over...

Your last paragraph resonates well with me i keep repeating it in my head Long story short she agreed to the date i made arrangements she aired it and tells me she is going out of town for the weekend to clear her thoughts for her appraisal meeting next week then flies away weekend after No...

She said yes more than once but now is going away airing my date idea tryna fob me off with her work **** Frame grab. Friend zone. Im nexting her.

No it definitely isnt that

I guess in your situation they already were in relationships so you were biding your time doing your own thing For me the times i gotten into relationships they werent interested from the start but became interested like i won them over but didnt actively try to But again when i do actively...

Yes and noticing them from the off and not letting them slide. Just because she ticks boxes doesn't mean she is someone you are compatible with long term Also can you even really trust a girl who wasn't attracted to you from the off. None of us have 10/10 game but if you are operating at a...

My question is more pondering whether i should really bother with women who have mid IL anymore regardless of my past relationships or them falling in love. The fundamental rules are high IL from the off + no flaking I mean it really tells you whether she really liked you rather than trying to...

Have any of you guys been in long term relationships with HB's who weren't that interested in you in the beginning but you won her over and she eventually fell in love with you? How much do you overlook in the beginning? Ignoring red flags? If your game isnt 10/10 tight how much do you let her...

She does want to see me the issue is more what is she seeing me for? A shoulder to cry on, someone to work out with? Like i said it doesn't help that i offered to help and now im regretting the mistake i made tryna shut it down before it is too late. All i can do is arrange a date for next...

This HB i just met recently is going through emotional turmoil at work, promotion wasnt given even though promised, boss taking credit for her work, not taken on important managers meeting abroad, marginalised and upset crying for days complete mess I made suggestion we'll go for a proper date...

More she plays netball here in europe which is a pure womens sport quite feminine she just wants to try her hand at basketball as similar skillset