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    Some how I messed up two dates

    But I wasn't. very light touches, not all the time and not that often. Never went near any taboo areas. Hell, we played two truths and a lie. I do not remember what the first two were, but the third was she has 10 piercings and she smirked. This was towards the end of the date, after the book...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    So what do I do? Just walk away, forget about her 100% and focus on the other two I am seeing?
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    I am thinking of just walking away. If she comes, she comes.
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    Was she wearing makeup? Yes Did she reveal any skin? No but her top was form fitting and was wearing a cardigan and jumper pants (I do not know what girls call them, but J-Lo wears them) on the second date. Black skirt with stockings and a cardigan on the first. Did she wear perfume? First...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    The later. I am replaying in my mind. I didn't say you were difficult to read. I only said that good time question when she wanted to go out again. Usually, if I do not hear from a woman after the first date via text, I think it's a dud and move on. One of my friends I've texted about this and...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    I don't believe I was giving off the please accept me vibe. If I am mistaken, please let me know. I'm still learning I guess.
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    Wasn't over eager, but I did do so aggressive kino. I reached out to her a week or so later as I was doing other things. I am not needy, as I didn't ask her for anything. Make her my GF? We didn't even kiss. Again, I do not see how seeing if she had a good time a week or so later in person when...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    Maybe when I come back. I'm going away with my friends for a bit on my birthday weekend. If she told me she was a feminist, I wouldn't had dated her in the beginning. She seemed so feminine prior to monday. She was jiggered prior to the book comment, so it was certainly a confusing experience.
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    I did this a week later at the meetup when she asked if I was open to do something else. I should reframe. I said she was an intriguing woman, she smiled. Agreed. Didn't think it was going to turn political. No woman I've ever dated said she read Rand. That is why I said what I said. It...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    Never apologized, as there was nothing to apologize for, but the only other thing I could had done was grab her and force my tongue down her throat. I'vd done something like that in a playful manner before, but when she said she was a feminist, I back off that option and played it cool instead...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    After the first date that's what I did. I just said hey and she came over and hung by me. It was also weird that she'd hug me on the dates, but rarely touch me when around the other people. It's like she's playing a game. I was talking about the bar to others and then she said, oh, we should go...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    I did flirt with hand caressing, arms, etc. She even said must everything you say have a sexual cogitation with it? I was taken back by that statement. It was weird (for me) on the ride to the bar when she said that. There was never an oppertunity to go for the kiss. I tried and she even came...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    Doubtful. She's a vegetarian and 105 maybe LBS wet. I wouldn't of even asked her to drinks if she didn't offer me to with her for drinks. Should I find a new social group? It's just going to feel weird going back there after Monday's results. I'm embarrassed even for myself. Not asking her out...
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    Some how I messed up two dates

    A friend of my recommended this forum to me to get some advice. I moved to a new area in New York and met up with some new people as well. We've been going bowling, golfing, hiking, etc. Just trying to make some friends and explore the area. A couple of months ago a new girl joined the group...
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