Do you wanna have kids?

[Pandora]

I can't resist... just go passport bro if you want kids.

Laws and cultures are different, perhaps less advanced other places and closer to family first. Still going to have to be smart, and can have issue. But at least a chance does exist, its a decent chance. Maybe there is issues about the setups, but there is issues about any setup.

Having kids in USA, its going to be and is a challenge. Setting a new spirit into that cess pool always seemed bad to me. I changed my mind after learning that other cultures take care of kids. Its nice as it relates to that.

Naw these dudes rather complain or end their genetic line. Passport broing is too extreme but ending the genetic line is perfectly normal.
I just got married to my overseas wife. We are still murky on the setup but we will figure something out soon. I will put a baby in her. If it ends in failure well atleast I tried.

We are men. We cant just give up like that. If you want kids you can get a kid. Yes it will be difficult and tricky but this is what being a man is about. You will regret more when you turn 75 and never even tried.

 

[Pandora]

I don't see myself having kids, I've been snipped for 3 years now.

I know a guy at work who had a kid with his woman, she cheated on him, left for Australia and he hasn't being able to see his kid for more than 3 years, courts don't anything.

I know another elative, who got divorced and his ex used the kids as weapon to get money from him, and talks bad to his about him.

Another in Puerto Rico got divorced, lost everything to the woman and she doesn't let him visit.

A friend of mine got divorced, her woman got back to PR taking the kid

A close friend of mine, had the kid when he was in college with his woman, they separated and 10 years later he sees his kid very few times cause the woman doesn't allow him to.

I've seen news cases where the new boyfriend of the woman does something bad to the kids, if its a girl he touches her or $hit like that.

I know these are isolated cases. But with the lack of masculinity and femininity in today's society, I'm seeing having kids is like a gamble, you can vet the woman all you want, but you truly never know somebody 100%.

Now I ask, this probably will never happen to you, but what happens if it does? Are you ready to take do the gamble?

Bro you are only 35. You seem to be in great shape. Just go find a latina in Costa Rica and get her knocked up. I just came back from El Salvador and they got a few cuties down there ( not that many) but still. They use the US dollar. I think in Costa Rica they use the US dollar too.

You gonna regret not even trying bro.

 

[The Duke]

@BadBoy89 I would never want a nanny to raise my kid. Nor would I want my kid raised by anyone but it's biological mother and myself. This is the absolute best way to do it for the best success.

Has nothing to do with money. I know a lot of fuhked up kids from rich people because Mom and Dad didn't do their job.

Money never fixes problems.

 

[plumber]

Where would you go? Give me examples that you've seen.

Germany, Japan, South East Asia. Probably others also. I even know people from India and in India that prefer it, only to USA for money.

Older kids stay in the some home as the parents and the grand parents some times. Not because they can't afford a place, because they want to be together. Yes conflict comes, and then it goes. What's the point of having kids if you don't want them with you.

In US, there is really a culture of hit the road at 18 or 17... or sooner. From both sides, the kids and the parents.

Its different. Go take a look. Its way less expensive than a failed home.

 

[plumber]

Naw these dudes rather complain or end their genetic line. Passport broing is too extreme but ending the genetic line is perfectly normal.
I just got married to my overseas wife. We are still murky on the setup but we will figure something out soon. I will put a baby in her. If it ends in failure well atleast I tried.

We are men. We cant just give up like that. If you want kids you can get a kid. Yes it will be difficult and tricky but this is what being a man is about. You will regret more when you turn 75 and never even tried.

congrats on the married. keep your eyes open. develop friends in her community. figure out how to live there, but make sure you have money. most places it really sucks if you end up broke or are not way above average money.

she is still a woman of human type. ALL of the other stuff you have learned still applies. she is not a unicorn, it just that the place is different.

 

[New_Journey]

Naw these dudes rather complain or end their genetic line. Passport broing is too extreme but ending the genetic line is perfectly normal.

Why are so afraid of ending your genetic line? I mean, its not like you or your family are big shot scientists who will bring the cure for cancer.

I just got married to my overseas wife.

And I said this was a mistake, and still saying it.

I will put a baby in her. If it ends in failure well atleast I tried.

Wait so you got married to get children but now you're saying it may fail?

We are men. We cant just give up like that. If you want kids you can get a kid. Yes it will be difficult and tricky but this is what being a man is about.

Men don't go to other countries to have a kid and then leave him/her there. Men stay with their kids, you say you don't want to stay there in that country before. Because if you're planning to have a kid, then leave to your home country leaving you kid alone to fuel your ego, then you will be a $hitty dad, you are one emulating exactly when men abandon their children, if you have the balls to have a kid, you stay there with him. Did your dad abandon you?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

yes.

 

[BadBoy89]

@BadBoy89 I would never want a nanny to raise my kid. Nor would I want my kid raised by anyone but it's biological mother and myself. This is the absolute best way to do it for the best success.

OK that's fair but the point wasn't having a nanny to raise a kid. The point was, in my opinion, when a man doesn't want kids, its a usually a monetary reason.

Being raised by a biological mother is not always the best thing for a child either, she could be crazy too, she could be worse than a nanny. Back when, kids were also raised by uncles, aunts, cousins, they probably turned out the same as kids raised by a mother and father, if not better.

Has nothing to do with money. I know a lot of fuhked up kids from rich people because Mom and Dad didn't do their job.

That's a different issue. The point wasn't "be rich and your kid will be fine"

Again the point was, when man says he doesn't wants kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.

Money never fixes problems.

Again the point wasn't about money fixing problems.

The point was, when a man says he doesn't want kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.

Let's say a man had $100,000,000 and was 48 years old. No extended family. He doesn't want kids because he's afraid of going to court 20 years down the road and fighting his wife? Or he's afraid might look foolish picking up the kid at school because he's old? Come on.
You all are lying to yourselves to make yourself feel better.

Or maybe this is an attraction issue. When a man says "he doesn't want kids", he doesn't have to put any effort in picking up women. Can't blame him for not trying when he doesn't want it in the first place, right?

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

Don't do it...no kid wants to have people calling you grampa when he is 12 and has to correct them that it's his Dad.

I have many memories of my grandpa...none are bad.

If i live to create such memories, my life was not fruitless

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

OK that's fair but the point wasn't having a nanny to raise a kid. The point was, in my opinion, when a man doesn't want kids, its a usually a monetary reason.

Being raised by a biological mother is not always the best thing for a child either, she could be crazy too, she could be worse than a nanny. Back when, kids were also raised by uncles, aunts, cousins, they probably turned out the same as kids raised by a mother and father, if not better.



That's a different issue. The point wasn't "be rich and your kid will be fine"

Again the point was, when man says he doesn't wants kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.



Again the point wasn't about money fixing problems.

The point was, when a man says he doesn't want kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.

Let's say a man had $100,000,000 and was 48 years old. No extended family. He doesn't want kids because he's afraid of going to court 20 years down the road and fighting his wife? Or he's afraid might look foolish picking up the kid at school because he's old? Come on.
You all are lying to yourselves to make yourself feel better.

Or maybe this is an attraction issue. When a man says "he doesn't want kids", he doesn't have to put any effort in picking up women. Can't blame him for not trying when he doesn't want it in the first place, right?

You little wanker.

Good post.

If you can spend time around little kids, and not want to have some of your own

I think you're a kid or your mind is fvcked.

You're probably a kid. I didn't want to have kids when i was kid, either.

Get a bit older...get in my shoes. You'll see, young buck

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

You little wanker.

Good post.

If you can spend time around little kids, and not want to have some of your own

I think you're a kid or your mind is fvcked.

You're probably a kid. I didn't want to have kids when i was kid, either.

Get a bit older...get in my shoes. You'll see, young buck

Also, monetary reasons mean nothing.

People telling you not to have a kid live in NYC. Who gives a fvck what they think?...

...They're probably gay or a woman.

I usually don't take gay women's advice on anything

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

Sorry, i definitely don't take advice from gay women. Or women. Or effeminate men.

If you do, you're a loser, and you're bound to fail

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

@BadBoy89 I would never want a nanny to raise my kid. Nor would I want my kid raised by anyone but it's biological mother and myself. This is the absolute best way to do it for the best success.

Has nothing to do with money. I know a lot of fuhked up kids from rich people because Mom and Dad didn't do their job.

Money never fixes problems.

Absolutely

Why wouldn't you raise your kid like humans have been raised for thousands of years

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

OK that's fair but the point wasn't having a nanny to raise a kid. The point was, in my opinion, when a man doesn't want kids, its a usually a monetary reason.

Being raised by a biological mother is not always the best thing for a child either, she could be crazy too, she could be worse than a nanny. Back when, kids were also raised by uncles, aunts, cousins, they probably turned out the same as kids raised by a mother and father, if not better.



That's a different issue. The point wasn't "be rich and your kid will be fine"

Again the point was, when man says he doesn't wants kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.



Again the point wasn't about money fixing problems.

The point was, when a man says he doesn't want kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.

Let's say a man had $100,000,000 and was 48 years old. No extended family. He doesn't want kids because he's afraid of going to court 20 years down the road and fighting his wife? Or he's afraid might look foolish picking up the kid at school because he's old? Come on.
You all are lying to yourselves to make yourself feel better.

Or maybe this is an attraction issue. When a man says "he doesn't want kids", he doesn't have to put any effort in picking up women. Can't blame him for not trying when he doesn't want it in the first place, right?

I just started a similar thread to this one. I'd appreciate it if you layed into me like i did you.

 

[Pandora]

Why are so afraid of ending your genetic line? I mean, its not like you or your family are big shot scientists who will bring the cure for cancer.


And I said this was a mistake, and still saying it.


Wait so you got married to get children but now you're saying it may fail?


Men don't go to other countries to have a kid and then leave him/her there. Men stay with their kids, you say you don't want to stay there in that country before. Because if you're planning to have a kid, then leave to your home country leaving you kid alone to fuel your ego, then you will be a $hitty dad, you are one emulating exactly when men abandon their children, if you have the balls to have a kid, you stay there with him. Did your dad abandon you?

Lets be honest. If you were really resigned to not having kids then you would not have made this post. You would not have needed validation to confirm your decision.

I do agree with you saying " why am I afraid of ending my genetic line". My genetic line aint nothing special. I want kids because I dont want to get old in a nursing home ( I know its selfish). I also know that I would be a good dad. As corny as it sounds I have a lot of love to give to my future child.

As to your last point. Men from all over the world work in other countries and send money back to their family. It has been happening since the beginning of time. Ask all of the Central American workers who use Western Union to send money back. Its not that big of a deal. Also I will be in the same country as my kid for most of the time.

 

[Pandora]

congrats on the married. keep your eyes open. develop friends in her community. figure out how to live there, but make sure you have money. most places it really sucks if you end up broke or are not way above average money.

she is still a woman of human type. ALL of the other stuff you have learned still applies. she is not a unicorn, it just that the place is different.

Yeh man you are 100% right.

 

[Jor-El]

I remember going to court with my ex over custody of the kids. That cow won and I had to keep them

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

Lets be honest. If you were really resigned to not having kids then you would not have made this post. You would not have needed validation to confirm your decision.

I do agree with you saying " why am I afraid of ending my genetic line". My genetic line aint nothing special. I want kids because I dont want to get old in a nursing home ( I know its selfish). I also know that I would be a good dad. As corny as it sounds I have a lot of love to give to my future child.

As to your last point. Men from all over the world work in other countries and send money back to their family. It has been happening since the beginning of time. Ask all of the Central American workers who use Western Union to send money back. Its not that big of a deal. Also I will be in the same country as my kid for most of the time.

You're a lot like me, bro. Thanks for posting this

 

[Vending Machine Veteran]

I don't see myself having kids, I've been snipped for 3 years now.

I know a guy at work who had a kid with his woman, she cheated on him, left for Australia and he hasn't being able to see his kid for more than 3 years, courts don't anything.

I know another elative, who got divorced and his ex used the kids as weapon to get money from him, and talks bad to his about him.

Another in Puerto Rico got divorced, lost everything to the woman and she doesn't let him visit.

A friend of mine got divorced, her woman got back to PR taking the kid

A close friend of mine, had the kid when he was in college with his woman, they separated and 10 years later he sees his kid very few times cause the woman doesn't allow him to.

I've seen news cases where the new boyfriend of the woman does something bad to the kids, if its a girl he touches her or $hit like that.

I know these are isolated cases. But with the lack of masculinity and femininity in today's society, I'm seeing having kids is like a gamble, you can vet the woman all you want, but you truly never know somebody 100%.

Now I ask, this probably will never happen to you, but what happens if it does? Are you ready to take do the gamble?

I was on the internet when the red-pill was becoming a thing. I've read every horror story there is, as far as men getting screwed over. It made me avoid kids and marriage for almost 2 decades. Literally 20 years

Now i'm grown. I just made a thread similar to yours.

Your biggest threat is the woman eventually taking your kids from you. Your child's mother can lie, say you hit her, or maybe "verbally abused her" and you can lose your kids forever.

A blogger i respect recently said that his only regret is not having kids. He's 58 for reference. This guy is very intelligent, he was in multiple relationships, but never thought a woman was "kid worthy". Now he's old, no kids, can't get a woman that's fertile.

I think kids are wonderful. Is it worth the risk? I don't know, man.

I'll tell you one thing: you can't win if you don't play the game