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I've never had the taste for gambling. I'm frugal by nature. Frugality leads to nice savings.

Women are the best way to reduce your savings. Every man worth his salt knows that.

Having a kid is going to tie you to that forever (frivolous spending)

Worth considering
 

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OK that's fair but the point wasn't having a nanny to raise a kid. The point was, in my opinion, when a man doesn't want kids, its a usually a monetary reason.

Being raised by a biological mother is not always the best thing for a child either, she could be crazy too, she could be worse than a nanny. Back when, kids were also raised by uncles, aunts, cousins, they probably turned out the same as kids raised by a mother and father, if not better.



That's a different issue. The point wasn't "be rich and your kid will be fine"

Again the point was, when man says he doesn't wants kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.



Again the point wasn't about money fixing problems.

The point was, when a man says he doesn't want kids, its usually because of a monetary issue.

Let's say a man had $100,000,000 and was 48 years old. No extended family. He doesn't want kids because he's afraid of going to court 20 years down the road and fighting his wife? Or he's afraid might look foolish picking up the kid at school because he's old? Come on.
You all are lying to yourselves to make yourself feel better.

Or maybe this is an attraction issue. When a man says "he doesn't want kids", he doesn't have to put any effort in picking up women. Can't blame him for not trying when he doesn't want it in the first place, right?
Tell me you don't have kids without telling me you don't have kids.

There's SO MUCH MORE that comes with it. First of all your kid will be an individual with his or her own vision on life matter how good you raise them. You have no control over that. Iam not even talking about medical issues.

Some people are simply realistic about it.
 
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Naw these dudes rather complain or end their genetic line. Passport broing is too extreme but ending the genetic line is perfectly normal.
I just got married to my overseas wife. We are still murky on the setup but we will figure something out soon. I will put a baby in her. If it ends in failure well atleast I tried.

We are men. We cant just give up like that. If you want kids you can get a kid. Yes it will be difficult and tricky but this is what being a man is about. You will regret more when you turn 75 and never even tried.
If your genetics were that great and worthy of being passed on , you wouldn't have to fly all over the globe to find something as common as a vegina to pump your seed in. Making a kid takes 30 seconds. Women , most women want kids so there's already something ain't adding up.

Secondly. Becoming a passport bro is a huge gamble at best . If you know how women operate you'd know that there are ZERO guarantees in love.

Let's call a spade a spade shall we? Some men are better off by focusing on other shyte in life. Let the baby fever remain a feminine emotion.
 

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I was on the internet when the red-pill was becoming a thing. I've read every horror story there is, as far as men getting screwed over. It made me avoid kids and marriage for almost 2 decades. Literally 20 years

Now i'm grown. I just made a thread similar to yours.

Your biggest threat is the woman eventually taking your kids from you. Your child's mother can lie, say you hit her, or maybe "verbally abused her" and you can lose your kids forever.

A blogger i respect recently said that his only regret is not having kids. He's 58 for reference. This guy is very intelligent, he was in multiple relationships, but never thought a woman was "kid worthy". Now he's old, no kids, can't get a woman that's fertile.

I think kids are wonderful. Is it worth the risk? I don't know, man.

I'll tell you one thing: you can't win if you don't play the game
So there's that.

You decided to follow advice given by other men , thus you made your bed and now you gotta lay in it.

When you're 20 you're old enough to drive, go to war, HAVE KIDS, basically to make your own decisions in life. You decided that the (truthful) hassle ain't worth it. That's a grown man choice.

Iam not saying you are too old now, but you're too old now.
 

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So there's that.

You decided to follow advice given by other men , thus you made your bed and now you gotta lay in it.

When you're 20 you're old enough to drive, go to war, HAVE KIDS, basically to make your own decisions in life. You decided that the (truthful) hassle ain't worth it. That's a grown man choice.

Iam not saying you are too old now, but you're too old now.
I found the advice i wanted to hear. Coming from him, it meant something.

Your advice means nothing to me

Edit - no offense. I value your opinion. You just aren't on that level
 

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Tell me you don't have kids without telling me you don't have kids.

There's SO MUCH MORE that comes with it. First of all your kid will be an individual with his or her own vision on life matter how good you raise them. You have no control over that. Iam not even talking about medical issues.

Some people are simply realistic about it.
You actually have control over that, bro.
 

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If your genetics were that great and worthy of being passed on , you wouldn't have to fly all over the globe to find something as common as a vegina to pump your seed in. Making a kid takes 30 seconds. Women , most women want kids so there's already something ain't adding up.

Secondly. Becoming a passport bro is a huge gamble at best . If you know how women operate you'd know that there are ZERO guarantees in love.

Let's call a spade a spade shall we? Some men are better off by focusing on other shyte in life. Let the baby fever remain a feminine emotion.
You seem like a guy that has kids by accident.

I say that because you're railing against having kids, in a thread about having kids.

I'm also no rookie. In any sense of the term.

Don't let my grammar fool you.
 

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I found the advice i wanted to hear. Coming from him, it meant something.

Your advice means nothing to me

Edit - no offense. I value your opinion. You just aren't on that level
That's fair. You ask for advice and you take whatever is best for you.

Just pointing out that my advice ( as always) is a man talking from experience and in this case the practice of being an actual father ,and not from a theoretical point of view.

So arguably I am actually on that level. Or you mean " that level " of being old and delusional and not able to accept Father time and Mama nature?
 

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You seem like a guy that has kids by accident.

I say that because you're railing against having kids, in a thread about having kids.

I'm also no rookie. In any sense of the term.

Don't let my grammar fool you.
Kids never happen by accident. Everyone older than 12 knows how that works. I became a father fully conscious and every time when I busted and impregnated a woman I knew it right away...

I'm just being real AF. And that might be harsh , I get that. I don't sugarcoat sh1t. Don't let my grammar fool YOU.
 

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Kids never happen by accident. Everyone older than 12 knows how that works. I became a father fully conscious and every time when I busted and impregnated a woman I knew it right away...

I'm just being real AF. And that might be harsh , I get that. I don't sugarcoat sh1t. Don't let my grammar fool YOU.
I appreaciate it, bud
 

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@Vending Machine Veteran why are you spamming the comment section with your weird comments? In other forums you would have been banned already for " Spamming". I'm surprised is not a rule in this one.
 

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$1 million dollars, with the 4% rule, that means retiring on $40,000 a year. A million is less than you think.
You quoted the wrong person.
 

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Kids never happen by accident. Everyone older than 12 knows how that works. I became a father fully conscious and every time when I busted and impregnated a woman I knew it right away...

I'm just being real AF. And that might be harsh , I get that. I don't sugarcoat sh1t. Don't let my grammar fool YOU.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
 

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If your genetics were that great and worthy of being passed on , you wouldn't have to fly all over the globe to find something as common as a vegina to pump your seed in. Making a kid takes 30 seconds. Women , most women want kids so there's already something ain't adding up.

Secondly. Becoming a passport bro is a huge gamble at best . If you know how women operate you'd know that there are ZERO guarantees in love.

Let's call a spade a spade shall we? Some men are better off by focusing on other shyte in life. Let the baby fever remain a feminine emotion.
I said " my genetics are nothing special". This how I know you just want to argue.

Being a passport bro is a gamble but an even bigger gamble is having a child in the USA. You are a bigger idiot if you do that.

Do you really think I could not find a girl to get pregnant in the USA? Stop being ridiculous. I showed you my picture. I am a decent looking dude. I keep telling you weirdo I deliberately did not want to get a girl pregnant in the USA. I would have to 100% pay child support. You dont want to get involved in the family court in the USA. It is brutal.

What part of this dont you understand? If you want I can post pictures with the girls I dated so you can stop talking nonsense. I can send you a special link if you like or I can post them here.

What you are doing is like when women call men " incel". I probably got more girls than you ( not trying to be arrogant im just spitting facts).
 
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Having a child in the USA should be a no go for any man unless you are okay with the family court system. Atleast overseas you have leverage. The women needs your money. You can give as little or as much as you like. There will no Sheriff coming to arrest you at work if you fall on hard times.

One of my friends literally got his license taken away and arrest by Sheriff for back child support. They did not care that he was barely making ends meet. He overpaid the mother child support and she still sent the kids to live with him ( while he was paying HER child support). It was a mess. This is not uncommon.

The US court system is brutal. You dont want any parts of it. I got stories for DAYS about guys I know who are getting screwed with child support. Also even after child support payments the woman does not have to let you see the child.
 

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You quoted the wrong person.
You're the one arguing that a millionaire is so rich nobody here could be one. That's why I pointed out you were wrong. And yes, I quoted the right person, as seen from the message I'm again quoting below.

Are you retarded? Nobody in here is a millionaire, neither are you, so stop the mental masturbation.
 
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