The reason I believe most men can relate to Jordan Peterson vs other dating gurus

GoodMan32

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It's all about attitude. Taking the correct action is a victory in itself if it moves you in the right direction. It's said that MMA fights are won in the time spend in the dojo.



My issue is a particular type of women. You'll find out that you are not compatible with most people, women included.

I approach the top 1% of women. My rejection rate is close to 100%. That's not a reason to lower my standards.
I won't tell you to lower your standards (as it's really not my place to tell you what to do)

I will point out, however, if you were to go for the top 20%, you could still get a woman with good looks and have a higher success rate.
 

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I won't tell you to lower your standards (as it's really not my place to tell you what to do)

I will point out, however, if you were to go for the top 20%, you could still get a woman with good looks and have a higher success rate.
Sure I can get such a woman but I wouldn't call it a success.
 

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Pro tip.

When you take a shower on Sunday lift up your beer belly and see if there's a small wiener hanging down there.

If it does, that means you should slap your father for failing to explain to you that being a man isn't supposed to be easy. Being a man means overcoming hardship, and actually embrace those hardships. Eventually the things you worked hard for will make your victories soooo much sweeter.

If you prefer to be a woman, you are born in the perfect era. Transformers are perfectly accepted nowadays. You can put on make up and mini skirts while not bleeding once a month! Best of both worlds!!

Or you follow our advice and improve till the wheels fall off. Your choice.
"Eventually the things you worked hard for will make your victories soooo much sweeter."

Sounds like the way nature and reality is meant to work, is that men are the only gender that have to put in work to receive rewards, not the other way around, women are the reward themselves, or women don't really have to do any work to acquire rewards, but yeah like i said, its not rejection that hurts, its the way that it happens that has the biggest affect on me, awkward interactions in which getting labeled or perceived as weird/creepy or making women uncomfortable, thats the most embarassing/painful feeling.
 

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"Eventually the things you worked hard for will make your victories soooo much sweeter."

Sounds like the way nature and reality is meant to work, is that men are the only gender that have to put in work to receive rewards, not the other way around, women are the reward themselves, or women don't really have to do any work to acquire rewards, but yeah like i said, its not rejection that hurts, its the way that it happens that has the biggest affect on me, awkward interactions in which getting labeled or perceived as weird/creepy or making women uncomfortable, thats the most embarassing/painful feeling.
I understand that it ain't easy bro.

Yet you simply have no choice. We are animals, and for every being on this planet its either adept or die. Those are the only flavors available.

I choose to adept ,because dying is inevitable anyway. Why do you care how a strange woman feels about you? We men supposed to be "creeps". Just make sure you are a creep who's winning in life.

Lighten up soldier.
 
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Well-said.

When a woman accuses a man of feeling entitled/owed, it's pure projection.

Unless she's severely deformed, a woman will never know what it's like to struggle for affection from the opposite sex.
It's unreal how we get called entitled (or accused of feeling owed) for merely venting about the bad position we're in.

"Here's the real kicker: Every woman who calls us entitled would go ape**** if she had to deal with the predicaments we men deal with (romantically/sexually). Yet they expect us to simply accept our plight."

Damn straight, women would obviously have a much different attitude or perspective on that reality if they went through what men did, but obviously women don't because women naturally by default live in abundance since they are on the receiving end of sexual attention. Men normally never have the luxury of women hitting on them or throwing themselves at them, making passes at them. Women naturally have more options than men do, the evidence and proof on dating apps/online dating says it all.

But yeah, i think it raises a good point, it sucks that autism has never been bred out of the gene pool through natural selection. When you say men are supposed to be "creeps", are you saying that men having awkward interactions with women in which women will accuse the man of making them uncomfortable, creepy or weird, is that just inevitable for all men, part of the learning process of getting better or just bound to happen even if a guy, man, is good socially?
 
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I didn't know this post would blow up like I did but back in the late '90s you had psychologists like doctor Pinsky on the radio who I could not stand but some people related to . Flash Forward 15 years later you have Dr Oz and a bunch of other TV doctors I personally like Daniel Amen.
 
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