Game does not work in 2024 - Game is ruining your chances

[GoodMan32]

On the subject of looks:

I'm of Near Eastern and Hispanic ancestry, bear a strong resemblance to (a somewhat younger)Pedro Pascal, and my complexion/exotic-by-Anglo standards features have never been a barrier my dating women of ALL background. If anything, chicks in The Anglosphere drench themselves over "The Sheikh" look, and have done so, since The 1920s https://www.npr.org/2008/02/04/18602260/valentinos-sheik-an-other-made-to-swoon-over

Personally, I've only noticed colorism being a serious impediment among two demographics: Those of both genders who are EXTREMELY dark(Talking Senegalese complexion here), and men of the yellow/East Asian variety. But even among those crowds, plenty of folks are able to date and mate regularly, WITHOUT having to bleach

Insofar as your thoughts on "game" go: Yeah, this is true, and frankly not an especially original observation https://www.askmen.com/entertainment/austin/the-future-of-the-pua.html Note the date on that article. Even Mystery declares, at the beginning of his book, "I've fallen in love with most of my acquisitions", and I think most would agree: Don't pursue women, unless you're going to be a genuinely loving, giving partner, for however long you're together. Pumping and dumping is the hallmark of a shallow mindset

It doesn't surprise me your appearance isn't an impediment to getting a woman.

There's a common idea in incel circles known as "just be White" (in other words, minority incels think they'd slay if only they had been born White)

The "just be White" theory is silly though, as most incels are White. If being White were all it took, there wouldn't be so many White incels.

As you pointed out, broads drop their panties for men with exotic appearances.

 

[GoodMan32]

Easy. The women below him have high demands. The women above him are surprised by his fortitude and interested in knowing where his confidence comes from.

Hmm, that'd imply I'd do well if only I aimed for broads above me on the 1-10 scale.

Come to think of it, my 6.5 self's last free lay was with an 8/10.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Hmm, that'd imply I'd do well if only I aimed for broads above me on the 1-10 scale.

I do believe you were advised, again and again, to boldly go into the fray, but you always pull out your excuses not to follow advice.

 

[BaronOfHair]

I don't know all their PUA names, but most, if not all, are bottom feeders pretending to slay to sell subscriptions to desperate lonely autists.

Beware anyone who refere to themselves as a "Pickup Artist", and encourages men to become such a thing

 

[BaronOfHair]

It doesn't surprise me your appearance isn't an impediment to getting a woman...


As you pointed out, broads drop their panties for men with exotic appearances.

I still have to get out of bed each morning, put on fresh clothes, goes outside and pursue, invest in self-development, etc etc, just like EVERY man who wishes to be successful

 

[SW15]

broads drop their panties for men with exotic appearances.

An exotic appearance isn't an automatic ticket to having sex. There are plenty of men with exotic appearances who aren't getting laid.

Some exotic looking White men (Italian or Eastern European type ancestry) don't have as much success as you are imagining.

There are also Hispanic men who look exotic to some women.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Beware anyone who refere to themselves as a "Pickup Artist", and encourages men to become such a thing

When the focus is only on the superficial, only the shallow enjoy themselves.

 

[Ricky]

Easy. The women below him have high demands. The women above him are surprised by his fortitude and interested in knowing where his confidence comes from.

This is very true. The david deangelo form of joking like c a w k y and funny really seemed to intrigue the hotter women.

i am pretty average in some ways i look like david deangelo himself. I do have an above average physique though.

the women below me may have unrealistic demands as amsterdam suggests. Maybe they used to be young and attractive and get a chad… they still think they can because of the ***** beggars.

The whole water seeks its own level has some validity though too. Maybe women below our SMV subconsciously fear we will lose interest in them

 

[GoodMan32]

I do believe you were advised, again and again, to boldly go into the fray, but you always pull out your excuses not to follow advice.

Umm, I attended 2 speed dating events.

And the other day, I told a hottie she looks good.

I'm coming out of my shell.

 

[GoodMan32]

An exotic appearance isn't an automatic ticket to having sex. There are plenty of men with exotic appearances who aren't getting laid.

Some exotic looking White men (Italian or Eastern European type ancestry) don't have as much success as you are imagining.

There are also Hispanic men who look exotic to some women.

Looking exotic is no guarantee of success, you're right.

The point still remains that being White isn't the meal ticket into a woman's panties that some men make it sound like.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

The whole water seeks its own level has some validity though too. Maybe women below our SMV subconsciously fear we will lose interest in them

That's where you get all the congruency tests drying up, when you have the right women.

When a weak woman fears too much that you'll realise you might have better options, that's where they hope to weaken you to their level by manipulating your self-esteem. And they'll be constantly testing for compliance.

On the other hand, when a man starts wondering whether a woman might have better options than himself, he builds himself up to her level. That's why they say that behind every strong man is a strong woman.

And when he can't, he turns bitter and spiteful and blames women / the whole world for his misfortune.

 

[SW15]

There's a common idea in incel circles known as "just be White" (in other words, minority incels think they'd slay if only they had been born White)

The "just be White" theory is silly though, as most incels are White. If being White were all it took, there wouldn't be so many White incels.

The point still remains that being White isn't the meal ticket into a woman's panties that some men make it sound like.

There are plenty of White incels. There are more Whites than non-Whites in the USA and Western Europe. I don't know if White males are proportionally more likely to be incel than non-Whites. That's the way that the numbers would need to be considered.

I agree that "Just Be White" is somewhat of a myth. I'm aware that there are stories of White men from the USA and Western Europe who go to Asia or Latin America and improve their sex lives. For every USA/Western European White man who goes to those regions, there are far more White men that can't expatriate to those regions. "Just Be White" doesn't tend to hold water as a solution in the USA and Western Europe.

Even if a White man doesn't meet the definition of incel (12 months + without sex), there are plenty of White men who are average frustrated chumps who are struggling to get sex. A lot of White males are average frustrated chump betas who are in LTRs that are decaying and get limited sex. These tend to be Gen X'ers and Boomers, though some Millennials are like this as well. There are unmarried, younger White males who are struggling to get sex. White women have been heavily pursued and have abundance. A lot of White men interested in White women are having less sex with White women than one might think.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Even if a White man doesn't meet the definition of incel (12 months + without sex), there are plenty of White men who are average frustrated chumps who are struggling to get sex.

That's hilarious, that people need to qualify to meet some definition for incel:

Lonely guy: "I haven't had sex for 18 months."
Arbitrary Incel Qualification Committee: "You're in, dude."
Lonely guy: "But, but, I don't actually hate or distrust women."
Arbitrary Incel Qualification Committee: "Don't worry, you'll learn."

Arbitrary Incel Qualification Committee: "Yeah, what do you want?"
Incel: "I hate women and I walk around with dark thoughts and..."
Arbitrary Incel Qualification Committee: "Hold up. Last time you had sex?"
Incel: "I f*cked some sweaty hog about eight months ago, but..."
Arbitrary Incel Qualification Committee: "You're not an incel. You can re-apply in four months minimum."
Incel: "But I didn't even like..."
Arbitrary Incel Qualification Committee: "That's irrelevant. We have different standards now."

 

[GuitarSlayer]

Good post, but it gives me a black pill vibe. This guy probably banged around 20 women, put on the commitment hat (which is fine if this is what you want, with a healthy woman) and started preaching about tradcon values.

You contradict yourself in many points here that I will not go over with and also you exclude hypergamy, which is ****ing insane. You are on this earth because of hypergamy. Saying that women are not attracted to men that are more superior than them is either blue pill or black pill. No in between.

However, I do think that game in that form that existed in 2000s does not apply anymore.

Your post totally rejects plate theory reality, which is a reality in itself. I have/had many plates that were from all backgrounds, some of which were way better looking than me, some uglier than me, some earning much much more than me. Most of these women were healthy. PLATES, NOT ONE NIGHT STANDS. PLATES. FOR AT LEAST 4-6 MONTHS.

The fact that you started with "I'm 6 ft bla blah, I have a 8 inch **** and I make 9 figures and I bench press 300 pounds" shows me that you might be an autistic guy behind the screen that likes to invent scenarios in his head an expose them on fag forums like these so that you can live your own reality here.

Yes, some things that you wrote are generally true and you don't need to be in your 30s and earn 6 figures and be whatever the **** you said you were to KNOW THESE ABSOLUTELY BASIC THINGS. A normal, healthy, sociable man learns these in high school.

There are many "high value men" (I hate this term) around that can't get their ****s wet because they have no ****ing game (aka status, personality, social presence, competence and conversation/seductive/persuasion skills).

IF EVERYTHING YOU SAID WAS TRUE, BILL GATES, ELON MUSK, ZUCKERBERG AND ALL THE TECH LORDS SHOULD BE SWIMMING, SWIMMING!!! IN *****, but they are just some ****ing faggots that had to pay for play.

For the love of God guys, start following healthy "red pill" models, Rian Stone, early Rollo, Nuclear Caudillo, Jack napier.

 

[SW15]

I do think that game in that form that existed in 2000s does not apply anymore.

A lot of seduction tactics of the 2000s are less applicable now than they were in the PUA heyday of the late 1990s - mid 2000s.

Game is more weighted towards looks now than it was weighted towards looks then.

Game has always been some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Personality attributes might have been more meaningful in the past.

Women started to get far more abundance after dating websites got de-stigmatized in the mid-2000s and then the era of swipe apps started in 2012.

 

[GoodMan32]

There are plenty of White incels. There are more Whites than non-Whites in the USA and Western Europe. I don't know if White males are proportionally more likely to be incel than non-Whites. That's the way that the numbers would need to be considered.

I agree that "Just Be White" is somewhat of a myth. I'm aware that there are stories of White men from the USA and Western Europe who go to Asia or Latin America and improve their sex lives. For every USA/Western European White man who goes to those regions, there are far more White men that can't expatriate to those regions. "Just Be White" doesn't tend to hold water as a solution in the USA and Western Europe.

Even if a White man doesn't meet the definition of incel (12 months + without sex), there are plenty of White men who are average frustrated chumps who are struggling to get sex. A lot of White males are average frustrated chump betas who are in LTRs that are decaying and get limited sex. These tend to be Gen X'ers and Boomers, though some Millennials are like this as well. There are unmarried, younger White males who are struggling to get sex. White women have been heavily pursued and have abundance. A lot of White men interested in White women are having less sex with White women than one might think.

Even on a per capita level, I'd venture to guess White men in the USA are more prone to celibacy than African-American or Latino men.

I've lived in multiple places with a high Latino population. From my observations, Latino men don't appear to struggle much when it comes to getting laid. Granted, many are with mediocre broads. But that's still more than a lot of White men can say.

As for African-American men, they get portrayed as sex symbols in the media, which makes their chances of getting cooch skyrocket. I've mentioned on here I have an African-American coworker who isn't a Tyrone by any stretch. Yet even he has a long-term girlfriend. Other African-American males I've known (whether it be through college, work, etc) generally didn't appear to struggle with the ladies (some even had abundance levels typically only seen in a woman)

White men, on the other hand: I'm an incel if you use the 12+ months without non-escort sex definition. The 52 year old coworker I mentioned who recently got fired (the one I suspect is a borderline incel), also White. The younger guy in another department I suspect is an all out incel, White.

Even in a city that's less than 45% White, we dominate the incel ranks.

 

[GuitarSlayer]

A lot of seduction tactics of the 2000s are less applicable now than they were in the PUA heyday of the late 1990s - mid 2000s.

Game is more weighted towards looks now than it was weighted towards looks then.

Game has always been some combination of looks, money, status, and personality. Personality attributes might have been more meaningful in the past.

Women started to get far more abundance after dating websites got de-stigmatized in the mid-2000s and then the era of swipe apps started in 2012.

Yes, and because of this, guys who can successfully "approach", run social circle game and pull are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY BETTER than this ****ing doomer post.

I am gen Z and I am considered a social God just because I approach both males and females in social situations to strike up casual conversations, WITH NO OUTCOME DEPENDENCE.

Women have been more independent than all men for 20 years now dude. **** this beta bux provider apex ****. Women don't give a **** about that nowadays.

You don't have to be a ****ing monk for 3-4 years like this incel OP said, to build yourself, so that you think that you will slay ***** like a mother****er. THIS is a CONVERT CONTRACT.

No more mr. nice guy is a basic, standard "red pill" mental model book. Not even 5% of this forum has read it.

 

[SW15]

Even on a per capita level, I'd venture to guess White men in the USA are more prone to celibacy than African-American or Latino men.

Until I see some statistics, I don't know for sure. My educated guess would be that is true.

The men that I observe struggling the most with women are White, East Asian, and South Asian.

I've lived in multiple places with a high Latino population. From my observations, Latino men don't appear to struggle much when it comes to getting laid. Granted, many are with mediocre broads. But that's still more than a lot of White men can say.

I tend to see Hispanic/Latino men mainly with Hispanic/Latina women. Hispanic men tend to do well within their own communities.

guys who can successfully "approach", run social circle game and pull are WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY BETTER than this ****ing doomer post.

I am gen Z and I am considered a social God just because I approach both males and females in social situations to strike up casual conversations, WITH NO OUTCOME DEPENDENCE.

As an older Millennial, I'm less familiar with Gen Z than someone who is Gen Z. The oldest Gen Z's are 14-15 years younger than I am.

Social skills are weaker in Gen Z.

You are well positioned. Good for you!

 

[BaronOfHair]

An exotic appearance isn't an automatic ticket to having sex. There are plenty of men with exotic appearances who aren't getting laid

Yeah, by all accounts, Adam Pearson's closest encounter with First Base was starring in a film where Scar Jo got naked

 

[BaronOfHair]

Umm, I attended 2 speed dating events.

And the other day, I told a hottie she looks good

Do more of this, and spend less time fixating on an autism diagnosis you received once back in adolescence*/nurturing this far-fetched and doomed fantasy of bedding postmenopausal women. That's the message almost everyone on here has been communicating to you, GM



*Psychiatric diagnoses being far more of an art than an exact science, it may be wise to seek out fresh opinions on this particular matter