Someone explain to me why Incels are so heavily involved in discussions about game/dating/sex.

[CornbreadFed]

Really? Getting laid makes you miserable?

Getting once and dealing with long dry spells is miserable

 

[MatureDJ]

It applies to greek life as well. You can still be a frustrated chump in a fraternity if you are labeled a cel.

It's OVER for IotaNuSigmaEpsilonLambdaCels.

 

[IKO69]

Well, they desperately want sex, it's a biological need and they are going without. It's very easy to understand their frustration. I love the incel's and don't mind trying to help them, hate the self-defeating mentality tho. I know two incels in real life I keep touch with - they are coworkers, one was a former coworker at a different company (they are both programmers - I know them because I work as Systems Analyst). They are great, dependable guys, would give their shirts off their back, but man is it difficult. It's easier to break a brick with one of those toy rubber mallets than it is reaching these guys. Even though things haven't worked out and you try to present a different pov, they buckle down and resist even harder. lolol all the conversations usually end with me saying why the **** are we going around in circles

 

[MatureDJ]

Frustrated chumps, incels, or progressives would not last very long in most respectable fraternities.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Well, they desperately want sex, it's a biological need and they are going without. It's very easy to understand their frustration. I love the incel's and don't mind trying to help them, hate the self-defeating mentality tho. I know two incels in real life I keep touch with - they are coworkers, one was a former coworker at a different company (they are both programmers - I know them because I work as Systems Analyst). They are great, dependable guys, would give their shirts off their back, but man is it difficult. It's easier to break a brick with one of those toy rubber mallets than it is reaching these guys. Even though things haven't worked out and you try to present a different pov, they buckle down and resist even harder. lolol all the conversations usually end with me saying why the **** are we going around in circles

same with my incel friends.

 

[IKO69]

same with my incel friends.

Both my friends happen to Indian lolol i'm not implying anything, they just happen to both be. They are both practically the same person, they even sort of look alike style wise, they have that same mustache and part in the middle of the hair. I introduced them to each other at a bar around here. At a certain point I said hey guys look at the sh*tter on that critter over there, and one of them goes "she looks good mike but she wouldn't want me" I was dead - set the tone I was practically in the tears for the rest of the night (from laughter). They would all say the same thing too, like it was from the same playbook - my favorite was "that only works if someone like you tried it". I said guys you both have a combined IQ of like 1000 but can't figure out the simple algorithm of how to talk to a woman, even teenagers do that. I'm laughing my ass off just thinking about it, those two are a riot. If they weren't in their head so much they would both slay, especially with those girls that like geeky intellectual types.

 

[corrector]

Both my friends happen to Indian lolol i'm not implying anything, they just happen to both be. They are both practically the same person, they even sort of look alike style wise, they have that same mustache and part in the middle of the hair. I introduced them to each other at a bar around here. At a certain point I said hey guys look at the sh*tter on that critter over there, and one of them goes "she looks good mike but she wouldn't want me" I was dead - set the tone I was practically in the tears for the rest of the night (from laughter). They would all say the same thing too, like it was from the same playbook - my favorite was "that only works if someone like you tried it". I said guys you both have a combined IQ of like 1000 but can't figure out the simple algorithm of how to talk to a woman, even teenagers do that. I'm laughing my ass off just thinking about it, those two are a riot. If they weren't in their head so much they would both slay, especially with those girls that like geeky intellectual types.

But they are right though. When someone like you tries it then it works. When they try it they are creeps/pervs (ie how they are made to feel by the women they are approaching, etc..)

 

[corrector]

Even though things haven't worked out and you try to present a different pov, they buckle down and resist even harder. lolol all the conversations usually end with me saying why the **** are we going around in circles

You mean they are ethnicels? What different pov are you presenting? You clearly have a massive SMV edge over them and are just making them feel bad.

 

[IKO69]

That would maybe be true if they were actively pursuing, but they haven't been. I have known one for 5 years and another for 3 and in that span I have heard little in the way other than occasional infatuation with some woman who worked in the office. Did they ever shoot their shot? N-O. Just a bunch of wishing and hoping but no risk taking.

These guys have been to my house many times, for parties that i've thrown. They were at a recent one. My friends like them, some of them are women. The problem is when they are around women they LIKE their brain shuts down and they can't function. They don't even try in a lot of cases. What am I getting at? I think most incels are probably in a similar boat where they view themselves as victims and drop out completely. When asked why they will point to things that happened a million years ago as proof that women are against them. They think their cases are special and unique not realizing every man deals with rejection and goes through dry spells. It's simple law of averages - if you try you will fail but also succeed. If you don't actually do anything....well there is a good chance you'll get nothing.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Both my friends happen to Indian lolol i'm not implying anything, they just happen to both be. They are both practically the same person, they even sort of look alike style wise, they have that same mustache and part in the middle of the hair. I introduced them to each other at a bar around here. At a certain point I said hey guys look at the sh*tter on that critter over there, and one of them goes "she looks good mike but she wouldn't want me" I was dead - set the tone I was practically in the tears for the rest of the night (from laughter). They would all say the same thing too, like it was from the same playbook - my favorite was "that only works if someone like you tried it". I said guys you both have a combined IQ of like 1000 but can't figure out the simple algorithm of how to talk to a woman, even teenagers do that. I'm laughing my ass off just thinking about it, those two are a riot. If they weren't in their head so much they would both slay, especially with those girls that like geeky intellectual types.

‘sh*tter’?!

 

[corrector]

That would maybe be true if they were actively pursuing, but they haven't been.

What threshold is actively pursuing? Are they passively pursuing?

I have known one for 5 years and another for 3 and in that span I have heard little in the way other than occasional infatuation with some woman who worked in the office. Did they ever shoot their shot? N-O. Just a bunch of wishing and hoping but no risk taking.

Were they aware there was women in the office who liked them? How did they respond to that?

These guys have been to my house many times, for parties that i've thrown. They were at a recent one. My friends like them, some of them are women. The problem is when they are around women they LIKE their brain shuts down and they can't function. They don't even try in a lot of cases. What am I getting at? I think most incels are probably in a similar boat where they view themselves as victims and drop out completely. When asked why they will point to things that happened a million years ago as proof that women are against them. They think their cases are special and unique not realizing every man deals with rejection and goes through dry spells. It's simple law of averages - if you try you will fail but also succeed. If you don't actually do anything....well there is a good chance you'll get nothing.

What incident or rejection are they referencing would you say as to why they view themselves as victims and drop out completely?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You mean they are ethnicels? What different pov are you presenting? You clearly have a massive SMV edge over them and are just making them feel bad.

Ethnicels live life on Hard mode.
Met up with 3 friends this week. One of whom was my hapacel friend. Poor guy was mogged to the moon & back by the rest of us. A White chadlite, myself & a White fatcel (who had a decent face & hair) and could easily score if he lost weight.

 

[IKO69]

‘sh*tter’?!

baby had back in other words

What threshold is actively pursuing? Are they passively pursuing?



Were they aware there was women in the office who liked them? How did they respond to that?



What incident or rejection are they referencing would you say as to why they view themselves as victims and drop out completely?

What is passively pursuing? Like hoping a woman falls into lap? Maybe that, yeah lol. I'm saying they aren't aggressive enough - they largely go to work and go home. Don't really put themselves in situations where they can meet women - whenever i've heard them talk about women they like it has largely been work crushes.

I don't know how they would respond if a woman we worked with was interested in them. Maybe they would've made an attempt, who knows. They would tell me about women they like and they would say hi to them in the hallways or talk them sometimes as part of projects. We had holiday parties and occasional outings where members of the team would get together - these were perfect times to mingle but they would often avoid the women they liked.

I gave one in post about bar. Many times when the subject women of women come, like point out a hot girl, say "no chance" or "she would never like me". It's always negative, never positive or hopeful and yes they don't go and actually find out. Operating on ASSUMPTION. Like I said before a lot of incel I know have good hearts and mean well, but are own worst enemy and very very difficult to help.

 

[BergischerLöwe]

It's possible to be in a fraternity and not be scoring much. It depends on the fraternity.

Most college men aren't scoring all that much. Most college men need to get into a relationship to get some pussie.

Observations about college sex life from someone that went to a party school.

I thought I'd share this as someone who went to a party school and was in a fraternity there as well. Not wanting to give too much about myself but I went to UGA and graduated a few years ago. While Athens has its hot girls, I do feel like the quality got worse every year due to the admission...

www.sosuave.net

I've heard that a lot of frat guys only hook up with like two or three girls a year. I wasn't in a frat in college and this number corresponds with my experiences as well. On average I'd get one hookup per semester

 

[Hamurabimbi]

baby had back in other words



What is passively pursuing? Like hoping a woman falls into lap?

I use a the concept of PP. I call it The Lure. But it absolutely won’t work if someone is incel tier.

 

[SW15]

I've heard that a lot of frat guys only hook up with like two or three girls a year. I wasn't in a frat in college and this number corresponds with my experiences as well. On average I'd get one hookup per semester

It depends on how many times you fuccked that hookup. Sex frequency is not the same as quantity of notches.

 

[corrector]

What is passively pursuing? Like hoping a woman falls into lap? Maybe that, yeah lol.

More then just that. Putting up an online dating profile. Do they have an online dating profile active? Looking or steering at women they are interested in in a way there should be a non-verbal response by them either in an IOI, or IOD (which, these non-verbal rejections are usually more likely).

I'm saying they aren't aggressive enough - they largely go to work and go home. Don't really put themselves in situations where they can meet women - whenever i've heard them talk about women they like it has largely been work crushes.

Can you blame them? They are living life in hard mode and get ammoged by other White guys, such as yourself, and feel bad about it.
It's like death by a thousand cuts. Yeah, anyone would give up in their position and you probably would too.

I don't know how they would respond if a woman we worked with was interested in them. Maybe they would've made an attempt, who knows. They would tell me about women they like and they would say hi to them in the hallways or talk them sometimes as part of projects. We had holiday parties and occasional outings where members of the team would get together - these were perfect times to mingle but they would often avoid the women they liked.

It sounds like the women they liked were not interested. You just told me that they said hi to them in the hallways and talked with them. What else do you expect them to do? They come on too strong and these same women might avert their gaze away from them the next time they try to say "hi" or things can get extremely awkward if they are talking even if it's work related. If it's the wrong girl, that can escalate to an HR complaint. Can you really blame them for being cautious?

An interested girl would make it easy for them to take it to another level. They are friendly with him, but they are not interested in them that way and any move will just make things worst for them.

I gave one in post about bar. Many times when the subject women of women come, like point out a hot girl, say "no chance" or "she would never like me". It's always negative, never positive or hopeful and yes they don't go and actually find out. Operating on ASSUMPTION. Like I said before a lot of incel I know have good hearts and mean well, but are own worst enemy and very very difficult to help.

Right, but you are missing the point as to whether their mindset is objectively right. An Indian guy is like a 3/10 SMV and they get mogged like crazy, by other White people, especially chad/chadlites in the environs, can you really blame them for thinking that way?
Would it make it more legitimate to you if they got rejected by hot girls just to please you so they earn a better incel title then they have now?

 

[corrector]

I use a the concept of PP. I call it The Lure. But it absolutely won’t work if someone is incel tier.

You don't need to approach a woman to get rejected by them. I mean it works in reverse too. If a woman is averting her gaze, giving all sorts of negative body language, that comes like a rejection if you approached her. Holding incels down to saying they are not actively approaching when they are getting Indicators of Disinterest like crazy is totally unfair.

 

[corrector]

Poor guy was mogged to the moon & back by the rest of us. A White chadlite, myself & a White fatcel (who had a decent face & hair) and could easily score if he lost weight.

Great ammo! You are helping with this discussion. I think its going somewhere because of your contributions. People should on here should give a pass to ethnicels and understand their plight.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Great ammo! You are helping with this discussion. I think its going somewhere because of your contributions. People should on here should give a pass to ethnicels and understand their plight.

JBW is absolutly a real thing.