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Buyer's remorse/ASD. It may not be that she looks like LTR material to you, but she would like to regard herself as such.
Yeah. After our second date, that was one of the things that crossed my mind. She looks like a girl with shaken self-esteem due to her ex-BF - she told me that he dumped her because "he was no longer attracted to her". So maybe she saw the first date bang opportunity as a "take it or leave it" situation, or to prove something to herself.
 

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Yeah. After our second date, that was one of the things that crossed my mind. She looks like a girl with shaken self-esteem due to her ex-BF - she told me that he dumped her because "he was no longer attracted to her". So maybe she saw the first date bang opportunity as a "take it or leave it" situation, or to prove something to herself.
Or bait hoping you'd follow along with her relationship track.
 

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Do not do it.

I went to a Vegas with an 8/10. My female friend of 13 years happened to be going with her friends too, who were male and female and wanted to meet up with me and the 8/10 girl. . She texted me saying “We are at Cosmopolitan tonight”. I ignored the text.

No way in hell I was going to meet up with them. And this was a female friend of 13 years. Why? Because 1001 things could go wrong. A better looking guy could take the 8/10 away, they would bad mouth you, she would leave me alone during the trip, etc, etc, etc.

Oh, and I slept with the 8/10 probably 132 times.

Do not do it OP, way way too risky.
 

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Yeah. After our second date, that was one of the things that crossed my mind. She looks like a girl with shaken self-esteem due to her ex-BF - she told me that he dumped her because "he was no longer attracted to her". So maybe she saw the first date bang opportunity as a "take it or leave it" situation, or to prove something to herself.
Don’t try and work through her thoughts it’s pointless. With respect, the fact that you’re even asking if you should go with them is a solid reason not to. Why was Kobe Bryant the greatest 1 on 1 player ever?
 

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OK I re-read the OP. She sounds butthurt that OP ignored her for a couple of days. Since you've banged and this sounds like ASD, I'd come up with an excuse not to go. run some comfort game over text, and re-pitch the date, maybe something she'd find more meaningful like cooking her dinner, seeing a band, some kind of event, etc. Depending on how much OP is into her. Yeah this girl is social bc she's young but there's also some insecurity issues going on imo.
 

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Yeah. After our second date, that was one of the things that crossed my mind. She looks like a girl with shaken self-esteem due to her ex-BF - she told me that he dumped her because "he was no longer attracted to her". So maybe she saw the first date bang opportunity as a "take it or leave it" situation, or to prove something to herself.
You're really just overthinking things .. probably just anxious. It sounds like you're not confident in how she feels/thinks about you as you mentioned you feel like her and her friends might just use you for drinks. Its a weird way to think man,especially when she invited your friends out too. I mean I'm not going to toot my horn too much but I don't think theres anyone on here with as much social experience as myself.. But, that being said, to me after reading your original post, my first reacton was that she just wants to get to know you better and see what your tribe is like. I mean afterall, she pt out on the first date and probably didn't get a chance to see how you will interact with her friends, etc.

Idk why alot of these dudes think so weird on here.. Its evident alot of them are hurt or just read too much internet philosophy and lack real world experience.. or their real world experience is just full of bad experiences.. idk.. But either way man, you gotta man up and just go. whats the big deal? is ther esome monster there ready to devour your soul?

I really feel like just shaking my head at how weak men are these days.. and how this thread is a huge example of it.
 

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Do not do it.

I went to a Vegas with an 8/10. My female friend of 13 years happened to be going with her friends too, who were male and female and wanted to meet up with me and the 8/10 girl. . She texted me saying “We are at Cosmopolitan tonight”. I ignored the text.

No way in hell I was going to meet up with them. And this was a female friend of 13 years. Why? Because 1001 things could go wrong. A better looking guy could take the 8/10 away, they would bad mouth you, she would leave me alone during the trip, etc, etc, etc.

Oh, and I slept with the 8/10 probably 132 times.

Do not do it OP, way way too risky.
OTOH, OP needs to be able to hop in his car and take off if it goes the wrong way. If she plays him, disrespects him etc he need to just play it super cool, smile and then when she’s off doing something just jump in the car and don’t take her frantic phone calls for 24+ hours. But hopefully that doesn’t happen.
 

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You're really just overthinking things .. probably just anxious. It sounds like you're not confident in how she feels/thinks about you as you mentioned you feel like her and her friends might just use you for drinks. Its a weird way to think man,especially when she invited your friends out too. I mean I'm not going to toot my horn too much but I don't think theres anyone on here with as much social experience as myself.. But, that being said, to me after reading your original post, my first reacton was that she just wants to get to know you better and see what your tribe is like. I mean afterall, she pt out on the first date and probably didn't get a chance to see how you will interact with her friends, etc.

Idk why alot of these dudes think so weird on here.. Its evident alot of them are hurt or just read too much internet philosophy and lack real world experience.. or their real world experience is just full of bad experiences.. idk.. But either way man, you gotta man up and just go. whats the big deal? is ther esome monster there ready to devour your soul?

I really feel like just shaking my head at how weak men are these days.. and how this thread is a huge example of it.
After two dates? You trying to put a ring on it kid?
 
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OP, not sure why you automatically jump to the negative (using you for drinks?). Considering she was the one to reach out after the second date obviously wanting to see you again (high interest), it's possible this was her attempt at setting up a 3rd date but making it seem casual with her friends/your friends instead of some heavy one on one formal date.

It's a bad idea, too soon, but don't overthink. Politely decline and use the opportunity to set up a more appropriate 3rd date with just the two of you. If it works out, you can do the meet the friends thing later.
 
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Hey guys,

So, I want some advice from you guys for the following situation.

I went on two dates with a girl and after a few days without contacting her she texted me saying she wanted to go out with her friends and with me and my friends, to a "lively" place, on what would be a "3rd date".

What would you do? Would you go alone or with a wing man, or would you just not go?
You never go with her friends.

Tell her "I prefer if we have fun together, let me know your schedule so we can meet"
 

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Idk why alot of these dudes think so weird on here.. Its evident alot of them are hurt or just read too much internet philosophy and lack real world experience.. or their real world experience is just full of bad experiences.. idk.. But either way man, you gotta man up and just go. whats the big deal? is ther esome monster there ready to devour your soul?

I really feel like just shaking my head at how weak men are these days.. and how this thread is a huge example of it.
Idk whats your motive to entertain strangers over a chick that is an allmost stranger.

After 2 dates i couldnt care less about her idiot friends, neither would my friends give a random chick and her idiot friends the time of the day. Everyone of my bro´s has things going on in their lifes and no time to waste on strangers.

This is not "real world experience" this is the college kids experience you are talking about. Grown men leave that shyt behind at some point boi.

I really feel like just shaking my head on how much time you seem to willingly waste on strangers.


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Man... you only have met this chick 2 times before, why would you want to spend time with her friends?
Double, tripple, quadruple-dates allways turned out to be a waste of my time in that early stages.
I mean, once you have seen this girl a couple of months and think this could have LTR-potential, i guess its okay to learn more about her friends but until then, tell her you prefer to spend the time with her one on one.

You can also see this as a test of interest she needs to pass. It will show where her priorities lie. In being with you or in partying with her friends.
 

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Hey guys,

So, I want some advice from you guys for the following situation.

I went on two dates with a girl and after a few days without contacting her she texted me saying she wanted to go out with her friends and with me and my friends, to a "lively" place, on what would be a "3rd date".

What would you do? Would you go alone or with a wing man, or would you just not go?
If you haven't banged her yet, don't go. That's either a sh!t test or she's seeking her friends' approval (which means that she's an immature idiot). Don't play that game.
 

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After two dates? You trying to put a ring on it kid?
This is an embarrassing sentiment, especially coming from you to someone like me. You are operating out of fear , your whole emotional reactive initial response to OP speaks volumes. Unless you're completely naive to think that everyone is a player or just lookin to hit it or quit it, I'd say that you're really proving to not be capable to talk to a diverse group of men about women. The fact that basic and normal social behavior makes weak men like yourself trip out is hilarious to me and to anyone who is a normal social person.

Most dudes would go just for the chance of pu55y. You wouldn't because I'm pretty sure at this point you are not the ideal candidate to ever be considered good with women.. Being honest, we know your track record and how women treat you speaks for itself.


Idk whats your motive to entertain strangers over a chick that is an allmost stranger.
The fact that you're acting like this thing is foreign to you when its very fuccin common normal social human behavior speaks volumes. I don't know if you guys think you're some ultra players, but any real player can see you guys just read too much sh.t on the internet -- secondly, you're operating out of fears.. not hard to tell. It's weak beta male sh,t whether you like to admit it or not. A confident man would go out there, capitalize on the pu55y and if it doesn't work out, smash her friends.

To weak men "SHes trying to manipulate!" To alpha males used to b.itches treating us well: "Ah this bit.ch really wants to get to know what my tribe is like and what her friends think about me...perfect candidate to finesse for some regular pu55y" . Especially since her behaviors and what she's doing suggest she's not ahoe but someone lookin for long term.

I mean you guys are CLUE-LESS. its hilariously cringe. Maybe you rather just find a hoe to share pu55y with other men than a girl who would introduce you to her friends aka something a hoe NEVER does.
 

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This is an embarrassing sentiment, especially coming from you to someone like me. You are operating out of fear , your whole emotional reactive initial response to OP speaks volumes. Unless you're completely naive to think that everyone is a player or just lookin to hit it or quit it, I'd say that you're really proving to not be capable to talk to a diverse group of men about women. The fact that basic and normal social behavior makes weak men like yourself trip out is hilarious to me and to anyone who is a normal social person.

Most dudes would go just for the chance of pu55y. You wouldn't because I'm pretty sure at this point you are not the ideal candidate to ever be considered good with women.. Being honest, we know your track record and how women treat you speaks for itself.




The fact that you're acting like this thing is foreign to you when its very fuccin common normal social human behavior speaks volumes. I don't know if you guys think you're some ultra players, but any real player can see you guys just read too much sh.t on the internet -- secondly, you're operating out of fears.. not hard to tell. It's weak beta male sh,t whether you like to admit it or not. A confident man would go out there, capitalize on the pu55y and if it doesn't work out, smash her friends.

To weak men "SHes trying to manipulate!" To alpha males used to b.itches treating us well: "Ah this bit.ch really wants to get to know what my tribe is like and what her friends think about me...perfect candidate to finesse for some regular pu55y" . Especially since her behaviors and what she's doing suggest she's not ahoe but someone lookin for long term.

I mean you guys are CLUE-LESS. its hilariously cringe. Maybe you rather just find a hoe to share pu55y with other men than a girl who would introduce you to her friends aka something a hoe NEVER does.
I love how you call me emotional and then write 1,000+ words to my 15. Fantastic bro. Go sit on your yoga mat next time before you reply to me.
 

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I love how you call me emotional and then write 1,000+ words to my 15. Fantastic
Oh sorry i know how to articulate myself, and you lack substance in what you say. Must suck being a bumbling idiot. The fact that you don't have a coherent response to what I said is another reason why I would never consider dudes like you cool or capable.
 

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I don't understand why you try to act like you're not someone who's girl flirts with other men right in front of your face. By your own admission. That's tough. If you had any self respect you wouldn't be with her. If she does that to you In front of your face, just imagine what she does behind your back.

Some advice: Stop trying to act like and respond to posts with what you think some Red Pill Alpha male would say-- your lack of experience with women is evident.. but why say insecure sht just to say it? I've said this before to people-- alot of what some of you guys say thinking it's cool or it's the right thing to say, speaks volumes at how inexperienced you guys are or how much confidence you lack/how insecure you are about women. Understanding that many Redpillers are simply incels who get off by talking about women and dating would benefit you down the line..

Also congratulations, you just made it to my ignored list. Was super tired of seeing your beta posts anyways. Never once clicked liked on anything you said.
 

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I don't understand why you try to act like you're not someone who's girl flirts with other men right in front of your face. By your own admission. That's tough. If you had any self respect you wouldn't be with her. If she does that to you In front of your face, just imagine what she does behind your back.

Some advice: Stop trying to act like and respond to posts with what you think some Red Pill Alpha male would say-- your lack of experience with women is evident.. but why say insecure sht just to say it? I've said this before to people-- alot of what some of you guys say thinking it's cool or it's the right thing to say, speaks volumes at how inexperienced you guys are or how much confidence you lack/how insecure you are about women. Understanding that many Redpillers are simply incels who get off by talking about women and dating would benefit you down the line..

Also congratulations, you just made it to my ignored list. Was super tired of seeing your beta posts anyways. Never once clicked liked on anything you said.
You’re doing a phenomenal job ignoring me alpha dog
 
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Hmm...even so, to me it seems a little too soon to be doing stuff with others. They barely know each other, dates should be focused on improving that not adding others to the mix.
Agree with this but still don't think it was an intentional sh*t test. She hadn't heard from you and reached out to arrange something casual so as to not appear over-eager with a one-on-one. I've had women do this with me before. That's how most women roll. They hate initiating so make it appear casual. Her friends, your friends.

OP, what was the outcome? Did you meet? Decline her invite but set up something else just the two of you?

Why is everything women do considered a sh*t test? Or maybe I haven't been jerked around by enough women to think so. Anyway, take it for what it was, a show of high interest. Don't overthink it.
 
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Why is everything women do considered a sh*t test? Or maybe I haven't been jerked around by enough women to think so. Anyway, take it for what it was, a show of high interest. Don't overthink it.
Give it a couple of years
 

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