Monogamy is the way forward

[Stanley]

Do whatever suits you best

 

[BadBoy89]

Is that time invested or is that time wasted? What do I gain from this? I’ve been doing this for almost a year now.. it’s literally rinse and repeat and I don’t feel like it adds to my development at all, but I could be wrong?

How is that time wasted meeting younger sexier women?

To be with one women “forever and ever and ever” doesn’t “gain“ a man anything. In fact, the longer a man is with a woman, the more she expects from him. Personally, I love meeting, dating, sleeping with the new women. I love flirting. I love having women submit. Its much more fun to experience a variety of women than to be with one women forever.

Plus, women age. When a woman hits 40, she is no longer good for sex. A man doesn’t gain from that, he loses from that.

 

[kavi]

Isn’t this merely being a normal person who socializes and engages in a bit of innocent flirting? I don’t think this is necessary being in the game. If you become weak in a relationship you’re likely committing to the wrong type of woman who isn’t supporting your goals.

I dated plenty of those this time around who became mad at me for not giving them all of my time, but I had no interest in doing so. I am only interested in women who support my development and who have development goals of their own.

Unicorns dont exist. Women cannot support your goals and if you have this attitude that a woman can be this thing you will at some point find out they are all the same.

 

[European-DJ]

How is that time wasted meeting younger sexier women?

To be with one women “forever and ever and ever” doesn’t “gain“ a man anything. In fact, the longer a man is with a woman, the more she expects from him. Personally, I love meeting, dating, sleeping with the new women. I love flirting. I love having women submit. Its much more fun to experience a variety of women than to be with one women forever.

Plus, women age. When a woman hits 40, she is no longer good for sex. A man doesn’t gain from that, he loses from that.

I enjoyed this at one point, but I am having trouble seeing the value in it now.
Is it fun? Yes. But after sleeping with the fourth new girl in a week don’t you start feeling like you’re just repeating yourself over and over? Maybe I’ve just gotten older and my priorities might have changed.

Again, I am not trying to convince anyone, I just want to challenge my own ‘new view’, as I used to be a firm believer that banging new chicks all the time was the best thing in the world. Now I don’t see the value in that anymore

 

[European-DJ]

Unicorns dont exist. Women cannot support your goals and if you have this attitude that a woman can be this thing you will at some point find out they are all the same.

it’s true that they don’t exist, but there are many quality women out there and there are many happy couples too out there. It’s not always as bitter as this forum portrays it

 

[member160292]

Finding one you can commit to is a needle in a haystack, very rarely your two paths will cross. It’d be great to come across one and build from there.

Personally, I have too much expectations so settling down is hard for me. There will always be something that another woman offers that your current ones do not.

In addition, I’m having too much fun with work/travel right now and in the foreseeable future. Being in a relationship somewhat hinders what you want to do because you’ll need to keep your partner in mind.

When you think that it’s time for a relationship, you will be focused to building that. Sometimes it’s just not there or not worth building upon

 

[kavi]

A woman will never truly support you, she will always be in it for herself, women are not capable of loving men and wanting them to succeed unless there is something in it for themselves, or it is your mother. Supportiveness from a woman is just temporary and always self-serving.

Be wary of supportive women, it is usually a manipulation. If she wants you to succeed, do your hobbies, etc its important not to be taken in by that too much

Nearly everytime a woman wants a guy to improve, or acts like she cares about him, it is almost always self-serving and temporary afaik.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

A woman will never truly support you, she will always be in it for herself, women are not capable of loving men and wanting them to succeed unless there is something in it for themselves, or it is your mother. Supportiveness from a woman is just temporary and always self-serving.

Be wary of supportive women, it is usually a manipulation. If she wants you to succeed, do your hobbies, etc its important not to be taken in by that too much

Nearly everytime a woman wants a guy to improve, or acts like she cares about him, it is almost always self-serving and temporary afaik.

And no man truely supports you either. Only person that naturally supports you is your parents. Every human interaction is a value exchange. People support you in as much as there is something in it for them. women want to associate with the highest value man they can. They will support you if you can facilitate that role.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

Having gone back “into the game” after a breakup about a year ago, which saw me out of the game for quite some time, I have realized how pointless and distracting it is to “chase” tail. Why the quotation marks around ‘chase’ and not ‘tail’? Because there’s no chasing involved, it’s gotten so easy these days to attract high quality women on dating apps… it’s a bundle of women desperate for an average guy (I’ve seen the dating apps from the POV of a female, and man the quality of men is low)…

I saw focus on one women who gives you enough sex and availability (has to be high quality) and then spend the balance of your time on career, friends and family.

it’s absolutely pointless.. once your notch count hits triple digits you’ll look back and realize how much time you’ve wasted on people you barely remember and how you could have invested all that time in yourself instead..

… keen to hear the opposite view and be convinced otherwise!

In which parallel universe do you live? how did you manage to get there?

In my reality 80% of women are only interested in the top 20% of men which becomes 90-10 if we talk about online dating.

It's gotten so easy to attract high quality women? first I dont see that many quality women around, second even left overs are so demanding that majority of men are cut out.

Notch count in the triple digits? the average men from what I recall is stuck at 9 for his whole life.

Again, did you get into those stargate portals or the man in the high castle helps you?

 

[Dr.Suave]

Hey @European-DJ I get you. If you get laid more often in a LTR than you would if you were spinning plates, you should keep your LTR. Most members here do better spinning plates so maybe they should keep doing that.

 

[SmoothSmooth]

In which parallel universe do you live? how did you manage to get there?

In my reality 80% of women are only interested in the top 20% of men which becomes 90-10 if we talk about online dating.

It's gotten so easy to attract high quality women? first I dont see that many quality women around, second even left overs are so demanding that majority of men are cut out.

Notch count in the triple digits? the average men from what I recall is stuck at 9 for his whole life.

Again, did you get into those stargate portals or the man in the high castle helps you?

yeah he’s chatting a lot of BS
Hottest 50% of women are hooking up with the top 5-10% of guys
High quality women - most likely to be permanently of the market - in long term relationships from high school/early years of university

 

[Dr.Suave]

Most members here don't spin plates/LTR. They sit here and complain about how life is not fair and all girls are superficial b*tches and that OLD sucks, etc. Very few are willing to do what it takes to change their situation.

Oh yeah, the OLD haters. I think location is a big factor there but they hate OLD anyway.

 

[kavi]

And no man truely supports you either. Only person that naturally supports you is your parents. Every human interaction is a value exchange. People support you in as much as there is something in it for them. women want to associate with the highest value man they can. They will support you if you can facilitate that role.

A man will support you cos he believes in what you are doing, like men support other men in fitness or self-improvement because they respect those concepts, not because they love the man. That support is still real. Women will only support you in terms of what is in it for them. In that case the womans support will change when she no longer has any use for you, but the man support will remain as long he still believes in that thing.

When you ask a woman for advice for anything she thinks "what is better for me to say" whereas a man will think "what do I believe in and value".

 

[Divorced w 3]

When you find one that is submissive, you may change your mind.

 

[corrector]

I agree with your point in bold.

I live in London, UK.

I also agree with your point on dating approach of women. I’ve even dated some that made it clear to me on day one. However, it’s always the same. By the fifth / sixth date they want to commit and lock you in quickly. Even the very attractive ones.

My theory is that the vast majority of men are sub-par, which brings me back to the main point: invest in yourself and stop constantly chasing women. They’re so easy to get; what’s difficult is a consistent and dedicated commitment to improving yourself

That means you have a british accent. This improves SMV on its own in other places.

 

[corrector]

Roosh didn't bang tons of women, Roosh didn't find god.
Roosh is an incel, Roosh is a fraud.

Roosh is genuine. I have been on his site and read his articles and you have to repect his uncompomising stand. How he lived his life before is irrelevant as its not a matter if you banged tones of girls or not. You can be a quiet fornicator by just fapping to porn. The fact is he left his old ways, repented and turned to God for mercy. Therefore its unfair to call him a fraud. He cant defend himself here so I have to in fairness to him.

 

[Fortune_favors_the_bold]

yeah he’s chatting a lot of BS
Hottest 50% of women are hooking up with the top 5-10% of guys
High quality women - most likely to be permanently of the market - in long term relationships from high school/early years of university

High quality women nowadays are a rarity and get taken out of the market very early also cause the longer they stay in the market, the more they spoiled they get.

The high quality woman is that early 20s girl that gets married and start a family with her boyfriend in his late 20s after they have been together already a couple of years.

 

[corrector]

The reason he disappeared is because he is a fraud and people found out.

What I've heard from another poster on here was his sister died from cancer and he became a totally committed Christian and disciple afterwards and is an Orthodox. His sister did die of cancer right?

I suspect his sister said something to him before he died that was very disturbing and caused him to take life allot more seriously and get back to the root of his faith. Sometimes people say things on death-bed that are horrific.

 

[EyeBRollin]

But you're married, why?

Either deal with women to procreate or MGTOW. It is a binary choice.

 

[kavi]

What I've heard from another poster on here was his sister died from cancer and he became a totally committed Christian and disciple afterwards and is an Orthodox. His sister did die of cancer right?

I suspect his sister said something to him before he died that was very disturbing and caused him to take life allot more seriously and get back to the root of his faith. Sometimes people say things on death-bed that are horrific.

The thing with Roosh, imo, is that he kinda enjoyed the sense of being in the online 'community' or manosphere. I think getting the love and respect of all those men was really important to him. I found him very unoriginal and quite a follower of his own group and manosphere trends. It seemed both his player days, his politics, and his conversion were just following the culture of the manosphere at the time. In many ways he seems a 'nice guy' and quite a follower and ppl pleaser, so I think everything is related to where certain parts of the community was headed.