A Woman Can't Flake On You; If You Do This...MODE ONE!!! Part 2

[Don of the north]

How you'd get from a description to the predatory behaviour of waiting until women to get intoxicated and then approaching them is beyond me.

What's predatory about waiting for a woman to get a few beers in her and have a beer goggle effect? I'm sorry, but that sounds like the feminist line of if she's had a beer....then it's SA. If that's the case, ban nightclubs. Common sense would dictate if she's totally wasted where she is barely coherent, then obviously don't make a move. I'm just talking about woman who has a few drinks in her and being a little tipsy/intoxicated.

People are responsible for their actions when they are drunk. If you make the decision to get in a car and drive after being drunk, then you get ARRESTED male or female. Alcohol is not an excuse for poor decision making.

If a man is drunk and a woman is sober and they decide to have sex, do you charge the woman with SA? I don't think so! Equality!!! Remember the ONLY advantage a man has over a woman is physicality.

If a woman is fully conscious and coherent and therefore able to consent, then she is responsible for her actions. If she finds she makes bad hookup decisions when she's drunk, then she should stop drinking so heavily, not blaming a man for a consensual encounter. #ACCOUNTABILITY

The infantilization of women is sickening. Women need to be held to account for their decisions and men need to stop being looked at as predators. If all it took was a few beers to trick a woman into sleeping with a man, then there would be no incels. 30 percent of young men now fall under that category. Women know exactly what they are doing. Don't confuse inhibition reduction with not being able to consent. Alcohol is not love potion #9.

I don't do any night game personally, but I had to call this out. Hell, our society is so crazy simply cold approaching a stone-cold sober women in the day is called "predatory" by some lunatics. When asked to elaborate on WHY it's predatory, they have no reasonable answer. Just "feelings".

 

[Divorced w 3]

@Divorced w 3 I followed the entire scenario from beginning to end, and my question to you is where and how did you develop such smooth and effective Game?

You've been married and have 3 kids so I assume you were married for many years?

And why would a guy like you with your obvious confidence and great Game even want to be married in the first place?

Good Game and the type of IDGAF c0cky confidence you seem to possess take years to develop, there are single men who have been playing this Game for YEARS who aren't as smooth as you are!

Not trying to flatter you, I'm genuinely curious about this.

EDIT: I'm also curious why you don't drink? If that's too personal a question, no need to answer.

I wanted kids
I read seduction prior to getting married so I had a bit of a foundation
i took a job that puts me in front or thousands of people annually between personal and phone based conversations
I took sales courses that unwrapped human motivation
I read a book by the FBI’s most successful hostage negotiator
Most importantly I enjoy the game, the challenge
Im not as good as you make me out to be. Thank you though.

 

[Divorced w 3]

Look, I'm all for being direct, but I think people are jumping on this train a little too fast without understanding it. Divorced's story is really good but it's not "Mode One"...that was a 4-hour visit to a bar with a whole storyline of this girl walking away and coming back multiple times.

The easiest lays I've had are where I hit it off with a girl and escalate all the way to the bedroom because I've had enough experience to know what good and bad signs are. Not where I straight up tell them I want to f*** them that night.

This doesn't mean I don't think it works, but there are other ways to go about this if you're good-looking and charming without having to go nuclear out the gate. Realistically I only see something that direct working on a girl by herself...because no matter how much she may want to bang you if she's out with her friends who might judge her for leaving with a random, she won't.

I told this girl within 3 minutes that I wanted to mess around with her. The book states that the objective of Mode 1 is to find a reciprocator (which I did) that wanted to have sex with me now or in the near future. 4 hours is pretty near future in my book.

Life isn’t linear as much as it may seem to be in a textbook, for one, meaning that both of us just got there, she was there with friends, they wanted to dance, and etc; the objective is to state my intention , see if we gel and go from there which we did. these are suggestions for life, and the more I use them the more I can develop a playbook on going mode1 optimally.

and secondly this thought process of yours neglects that I didn’t want to commit myself either within the same time period, this place is a goldmine and you notice that a smoke walked by not long after and I could have very easily pivoted but chose not to. And I just wanted to have fun, part of which for me is practice. Kobe Bryant worked out for hours before he practiced with his team, I enjoy working my moves out on the different types of women that i come across. I was also there with my best friend. We’re both getting divorced and we’re enjoying being out.

 

[BPH]

I told this girl within 3 minutes that I wanted to mess around with her. The book states that the objective of Mode 1 is to find a reciprocator (which I did) that wanted to have sex with me now or in the near future. 4 hours is pretty near future in my book.

Life isn’t linear as much as it may seem to be in a textbook, for one, meaning that both of us just got there, she was there with friends, they wanted to dance, and etc; the objective is to state my intention , see if we gel and go from there which we did. these are suggestions for life, and the more I use them the more I can develop a playbook on going mode1 optimally.

and secondly this thought process of yours neglects that I didn’t want to commit myself either within the same time period, this place is a goldmine and you notice that a smoke walked by not long after and I could have very easily pivoted but chose not to. And I just wanted to have fun, part of which for me is practice. Kobe Bryant worked out for hours before he practiced with his team, I enjoy working my moves out on the different types of women that i come across. I was also there with my best friend. We’re both getting divorced and we’re enjoying being out.

I'm just saying it's not Mode One the way everybody describes it.

You didn't walk up to her, tell her you want to f*** her tonight and have her agree to leave with you.

She came up near you, you made some small talk, and said "let's make bad decisions later tonight" and proceeded to have a whole storyline where you're making out with this other smoke and doing things purposely in this girl's line of sight that led to jealousy and had her come back and eventually leave with you several hours later.

It's still a win, and I'm not trying to knock it, but it's not Mode One direct.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Actually my dad hooked up with a 18 yo

Im so glad for him!

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I cannot imagine that approach rendering the results you want with most "high value quality women," which perhaps doesn't matter since all you want to do is fvck them and be done.

Sry but that is nonsense.

First off, what is a high value woman?

Answers will vary.

My definition is; any woman I find attractive.

So if I approach a woman and Mode One her, she is of high value to me.

Second, ARC stated that he went Mode One on a lot of high value women (by society's standards) and have gotten positive results.

The results are based on the woman's attractiveness towards the guy.

The nasty, stinky bum in the alley might not have positive results going Mode One on a woman.

But the handsome, well-built and well-groomed man just might.

As a woman, there is something to be said for employing good Game versus direct Mode One (as its defined here) which involves NO Game whatsoever.

The game comes after you go Mode One. But even that should be short & sweet.

It's fun, enticing, playful and sexy and will render a man better results than with direct Mode One, from a woman's perspective.

No magical tricks required.

I don't include skanks, hoes or women who regularly hang out at Walmart or Burger King in that demographic as such women have different (lower) standards from quality women, don't mean to judge but they do.

Nonsense. Again, if the woman is attractive, then her attractiveness is what makes her of quality.

And last I checked, quality women go grocery shopping and also eat at fast food spots.

And if they are there, so am I.

 

[DonJuanjr]

But to not have a conversation first to determine if there is even an attraction, beyond looks?

You're thinking through the lens of a female. If it comes to NSA sex, all men need is looks. Even that is up in the air... Glory holes exist for a reason...

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Fair enough but if you want the lay, you need to consider her too and what she responds to. Getting the lay is not just about what a man needs.

Most women are not gonna respond positively to such a blatant display of extreme thirst, that's all l'm saying.

No matter how much of a Chad he is.

Yes, but if you're not hanging out at McDonald's you can't say for sure.

Are you Lovin It?

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Can you answer the above question though?

No it does not have to be blatantly bold...although there is a time and place to be either blatantly bold, or blatantly passive, but yet bold and direct.

I've had this happen, by attractive men, and I view them as (1) way too thirsty

Ahhhh. ARC's Mode One approach has often been accused of being a thirst-based system.

However, he made a video addressing this misconception...basically stating when a man is thirsty, he comes across as desperate and needy.

But as he stated, there is nothing about Mode One that suggests desperation, but rather boldness and straight-forwardness that a woman can either take or leave.

Mode One is basically..

Guy: So what's up with the puzzy?

Girl: No thanks.

Guy: Aight, I'm out.

*Guy walks away*

Do you see anything desperate about that?

Thirstiness? Neediness?

I don't. Not at all.

In fact, I see the opposite.

, and (2) lazy.

So basically, you want a man to work for it?

Again, I thought Mode One was being direct with what you want versus all the contrived BS such as lying, telling a woman you want a "relationship," courting them on dates, buying gifts, spending money when what you actually want is casual, NSA, FWB or ONS.

Indeed, you thought correct.

In that sense, I very much agree with Mode One. After spending time chatting and determining there is mutual attraction, if what you want is casual, no strings, or a ONS, tell her that.

I am all for that type of direct approach.

But if all you want is sexual companionship, what mutual attraction is needed beyond the physical?

But to not have a conversation first to determine if there is even an attraction, beyond looks?

Playful, sexy teasing, banter, a built-up of sorts?

All of that may be preferred for some people, but it isn't in any way required.

Well, it may be required for you, but it isn't required for a Mode One guy.

Which means, you and the guy aren't seeking the same thing..thus making yall incompatible with each other..and at that point there is no need to take things any further.

I don't see it happening myself. Not as often as you make it sound anyway.

So, consider this scenario..

You work the desk at a hotel.

And a VERY attractive man (in your opinion) comes in to check into his room.

After he checks in, he says to you..

"Miss, I find you physically appealing and sexually attractive..and when you get off work, I invite you to come to my room to share with me your sexual companionship".

Nothing explicit. Nothing vulgar.

He told you what was on his mind.

What will you say?

I fail to see how approaching an attractive woman, at a bar, club, shopping mall or on the street and announcing your intention to fvck them or asking them straight away if they want to fvck without spending 5-10 minutes having a conversation is going to render positive results- it's thirsty, crude and lazy imo.

But as is the case in the example above...it doesn't have to be crude. It can be very polite.

If all you and the guy want is sexual relations, then I fail to see what a 5-10 minute conversation is going to do besides impede the process of you two doing what you both want to do.

Oh sure, there are women who will respond, obviously, as it's happened to you.

My Mode One has been modified. More on that later lol.

And if you're preference for Mode One'ing are women who hang out at Walmart or Burger King, so be. To each his own.

I went to Burger King for food.

Came out with a # and a weekend playmate.

I go to Walmart because the opportunities are endless, and I aint talkin bout their products either.

It was wrong of me to judge you or such women for that just because I don't choose to hang out at those places.

My apologies.

Thats fine, because I am not limited to just those places.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

That's very true Billy.

As I said I have no doubt this extreme Mode One approach of asking a girl to fcvk before having a conversation with her does work as confirmed by @We_ArE_VeNOM , I am not invalidating his experience.

I like the way you put it; EXTREME Mode One approach.

I've never been extreme with it on a stranger to stranger level, although I am not against it and I will use it if the opportunity presents itself.

I use more of a soft Mode One approach.

More on that later though.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

That's very true Billy.

As I said I have no doubt this extreme Mode One approach of asking a girl to fcvk before having a conversation with her does work as confirmed by @We_ArE_VeNOM , I am not invalidating his experience.

Just saying I have never seen that approach "work" where I am from or the places I hang out; most women I associate with are repelled by that type of extreme thirst, among other things.

Did you watch the video I uploaded of the man (Dustin Hoffman) getting a drink thrown in his face by Jessica Lange?

Okay it's just a movie, and from the 80's but her reaction is more in line with what I witness in my own life, with the women I associate and talk with.

And I thought perhaps, if a man's goal was the lay (which I assume it is), he might want to think of something in between like having a 10 minute conversation with her.

That's all.

Dustin. Hoffman.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I like the way you put it; EXTREME Mode One approach.

I've never been extreme with it on a stranger to stranger level, although I am not against it and I will use it if the opportunity presents itself.

I use more of a soft Mode One approach.

More on that later though.

I would think you need some kind of c0cky/funny opener to get her smiling and/or laughing first. Amp up those juices first.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I would think you would start with a prospect who's "juicy" (i.e., observably high sex drive) to being with, and then you amplify that.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Precisely my point. Some playful teasing, banter, get her laughing! Build up to it.

Anyway, said my piece on this.

Exactly, can't just be ruff about it. Can't bite before you bark.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

You are correct, no argument from me. The operative phrase being "if all I want is sexual companionship...."

That's not me (and never was), nor is it a lot of women at least not the ones I associate with.

My sentiments exactly.

That's not you, or what you want..which is in conflict with the guy; because that is him, and what he wants.

So what we have here is an incompatibility, which has been exposed immediately and did not need 10 minutes of conversation, or multiple dinner dates to figure out.

Many women seek more than a sexual relationship like the woman in one of @Divorced w 3 early "text game" posts, who clearly stated she was seeking more than casual or a ONS.

That is fine.

The problem that most guys have is; they invest time and/or money on a woman just to find out that they are incompatible with the woman.

With Mode One, you get your point across, while saving time and money.

Hearing now about this blatant asking a woman to fvck (or "what's up with the pvssy" lol) before even engaging in a short conversation is completely new to me, I can't wrap my head around it or envision how it would work to a man's advantage assuming his goal is sex with a woman he finds attractive.

Ummm, I provided an analogy to you where a guy respectfully requested that you two share each others sexual company.

You did not address it.

In that situation, regardless what your response will be in that case, I presume it is easy to wrap your mind around and also envision it working.

I experienced that on-line and those messages went direct to trash.

Mode One doesn't guarantee "in the bed" results, as most of those guys who messaged you found out.

What it will guarantee is the man knowing exactly where he stands with the woman, which is all a man wants to know anyway.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I would think you need some kind of c0cky/funny opener to get her smiling and/or laughing first. Amp up those juices first.

If the woman finds you physically attractive and sexually appealing, you don't.

You only need to do magical tricks and tap dancing if you are trying to impress the woman.

And Mode One isn't about trying to impress the woman, not like that, at least.

I haven't read the whole thread, but I would think you would start with a prospect who's "juicy" (i.e., observably high sex drive) to being with, and then you amplify that.

?

 

[Divorced w 3]

What's predatory about waiting for a woman to get a few beers in her and have a beer goggle effect? I'm sorry, but that sounds like the feminist line of if she's had a beer....then it's SA. If that's the case, ban nightclubs. Common sense would dictate if she's totally wasted where she is barely coherent, then obviously don't make a move. I'm just talking about woman who has a few drinks in her and being a little tipsy/intoxicated.

People are responsible for their actions when they are drunk. If you make the decision to get in a car and drive after being drunk, then you get ARRESTED male or female. Alcohol is not an excuse for poor decision making.

If a man is drunk and a woman is sober and they decide to have sex, do you charge the woman with SA? I don't think so! Equality!!! Remember the ONLY advantage a man has over a woman is physicality.

If a woman is fully conscious and coherent and therefore able to consent, then she is responsible for her actions. If she finds she makes bad hookup decisions when she's drunk, then she should stop drinking so heavily, not blaming a man for a consensual encounter. #ACCOUNTABILITY

The infantilization of women is sickening. Women need to be held to account for their decisions and men need to stop being looked at as predators. If all it took was a few beers to trick a woman into sleeping with a man, then there would be no incels. 30 percent of young men now fall under that category. Women know exactly what they are doing. Don't confuse inhibition reduction with not being able to consent. Alcohol is not love potion #9.

I don't do any night game personally, but I had to call this out. Hell, our society is so crazy simply cold approaching a stone-cold sober women in the day is called "predatory" by some lunatics. When asked to elaborate on WHY it's predatory, they have no reasonable answer. Just "feelings".

Are you saying my girl got beer goggles? I told her in three minutes when she got to the bar. She came separately from her sister and friends. Her roommates were gone which is why I was able to bring her back to her place. Maybe she took a shot or two on the way over? She was not drunk

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Here's where I disagree. He might have gotten the lay had he spent 10 minutes chatting with her, engaging in some playful teasing and banter, making her laugh, giving her the opportunity to connect with him on some small level.

He may or may not have.

How many times have guys stood there tap dancing trying to razzle dazzle a woman and they STILL don't get the puzzy.

Happens all the time.

Save yourself your time, money, and dignity by going Mode One.

No juggling for the woman. No tap dancing for the woman. No rabbit out the hat magic tricks.

Experienced men who understand female nature and female sexuality KNOW that, it has nothing to do with trying to impress her.

If it has nothing to do with trying to impress her, then what the hell am I trying to make her laugh?

Asking her right off the bat "how's the pvssy?" gives her NOTHING to work with, all she sees is a overly thirsty guy who (and sorry to say) is kind of gross.

Nonsense. As it was explained to you in a prior post, there is nothing about Mode One which implies thirst or neediness.

The man makes a request to the woman for sexual companion and if she declines, that is it.

End of story.

No begging or pleading.

In fact there was a big long thread recently on how many women in today's dating culture are so averse to even being approached (nicely), they have called the police! I'm serious.

I cannot relate...because even my rejections have been positive.

As such, a man is taking a huge risk cold approaching a woman

I approached over 100 women. Only one negative experience.

I like that ratio.

and announcing he wants to fvck her or asking "how's the pvssy," he might find himself arrested for harassment for chrissakes.

Third time: I gave a scenario (which you've failed to address) where a man politely asked you to share sexual company with him.

And besides that, I also stated that a man doesn't have to be "crude" or vulgar to get the point across.

You are very selective in what you are addressing, yet your points are being addressed in what you are choosing to ignore.

Honestly, I know of NO woman who would respond well to that in today's culture.

But hey! Works for you so that's all that matters.

You are one person in a world of over 7 billion people.

Catch my drift?

 

[Divorced w 3]

See this (bolded/underlined) is funny!! It happened within minutes, no wasted time or money. And it rendered a good result, it make her smile and you got the lay.

Had you said to Lauren what @We_ArE_VeNOM suggested earlier "what's up with the pvssy?" do you think you would have gotten the same result?

I highly doubt it.

No it wouldn’t have worked culturally. Some variation for a white girl from the burbs maybe.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

I read it. It wasn't as crude and contend it might have rendered a good result (sex) with a woman who was available and open to it.
So I'll give you that.

Ummm, catz...

THAT IS THE POINT!!!!

I was more referring to your initial comments of cold approaching a girl and telling her right off the bat your want to fvck her.

Ummm catz..

In the scenario I gave, the man basically said he want to fuk you. Did he not? Right off the bat?

And I clearly stated that I prefer the soft Mode One approach despite being open to the extreme one.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

See this (bolded/underlined) is funny!! It happened within minutes, no wasted time or money. And it rendered a good result, it make her smile and you got the lay.

Had you said to Lauren what @We_ArE_VeNOM suggested earlier "what's up with the pvssy?" do you think you would have gotten the same result?

I highly doubt it.

*Sigh*

When I said "What's up with the puzzy", it isn't limited to that specific message, but rather any variation of the message.

The point was to demonstrate the man being direct, getting rejected, and moving on...and thus demonstrating that there was nothing thirsty about his approach (contrary to what you were claiming).

My apologies for not making it clear.