nah, he's kind of right. You see it in infields too with coaches (guys who are not only 'socially competent' but apparently have elite social skills and all the 'game' in the world lol)
They pull the girls who are clearly receptive to the open, and when they open a girl who is very cold and clearly unintetested, their game is powerless. I used to have a whole hard drive of infields to confirm this
Sometimes people on reddit and stuff are like 'no, i always pull girls who hate me at the open' but it's just fantasy. I mean, isn't is funny how annonymous ppl on reddit without proof can do what pro pua coaches can't do (pros who actually have infields etc). It's like someone on reddit telling me they can run sub 9 seconds for the 100m and expecting me to believe them when no athlete we've ever heard of can do it lol. They're lying. They pull the 'yes girls' just like me and todd V and whoever else people like to use as an example lol
I don't think he's saying that game doesn't matter at all (it's certainly possible that if you have extremely bad game a girl who thinks you are hot will decide to hold out for someone else she thinks is hot but who also isn't overly weird and/or very boring etc). He's just saying that the idea that with 'game' you can force attraction in a girl is fantasy/pua marketing, and i'd have to agree
I can't say I've pulled girls who didn't like me at the open, but I can think of notable examples of girls who clearly didn't want to talk to me at the beginning that changed their minds sharply.
One of them was a girl who was like "what do you want?" What I said hi. And then was extremely warm and open after I cracked a joke
Another one is a girl who seemed like she was trying to give me monotone one word answers to everything I said... But she's a regular at the store and she got progressively warmer and more friendly each time I saw her.
Fellas, the time has come to stop caring about the opinions of women.
While I agree that it's a good idea not to be negative around people (men or women), I agree only because that's just basic courtesy. I don't hide my negative opinions because I actually care wtf a woman would think.
People's lives are much more difficult these days, it's discourteous to add more negativity to their lives by being openly pessimistic.
As mentioned above, if you're a handsome guy, you can be as negative as you want and women will still dig you.
A woman's opinion of a man has nothing to do with his behavior or his character, it's entirely based on his Looks, his Money and his Status in society. That's it.
Women get more sexually exciting by upbeat and positive people. Even if your life is complete shiit at the moment, you can't let that on when trying to initially seduce.
@espanish was socially inept in the interaction described in the initial post. He's not entirely wrong about the macro state of the economy and the geopolitical climate, but talking about bad macroeconomic conditions is not going to produce the emotional response women need in order to drop their panties.
I think there's two main reasons to be positive when talking to women or men you want to date or befriend.
1. Nobody wants to talk to or hang out with someone who's depressed or angry or complaining all the time.
2. It'll be really difficult to segway from talking about the war in Ukraine to kissing a girl.
I met a woman from Mexico who works for a non-profit and unlike most people who tell me about Mexico as a vacation paradise, she went all in on the racism and poverty and oppression. I wasn't too interested in getting her number after that lol.
