dont say anything negative, be positive

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Unlike the socially competent guy who won't ruin his chances with social incompetence.
This is not true. If you'd had sex with well over 50 girls, it be fair to say your pretty socially competent. Doesn't mean you are then immune from screwing up your chances with girls that were initially attracted to you.
The issue with this topic is that OP could be stretching the truth or completely full of shvt. Regardless, he is fueling the black pill erection machine lol.
He's not full of sh1t. He's just purposely leaving out a lot of details. Focusing on one part of the interaction to support his claim that game doesn't matter. It gets clicks.
my definition of game is "a set of rules" that one must follow to attract girls
This is a sh1tty definition of game. But I can see why you're saying there's no such thing as game.

Any time someone does anything (verbal or nonverbally) to further move along the girl he's interacting with (assuming he finds her attractive) from point A (where sex can't happen) to point B (where sex can happen), he's gaming. It cannot NOT exist. It's always happening whether you say it is or even believe in it or not.

What happens is, sometimes we notice there are some actions that tend to lead good interactions toward bad ones. Like everything was going fine until the player performed action X. Which very noticably changed the vibe, putting the leap from point A to point B into jeopardy, if not killing the whole thing from happening. And because this is a community where men are gathered here with similar goals, It's then someone will say, as a general rule, "hey guys don't do action X" (like saying negative things, instead of being positive) because more often than not, he's noticed it's lead to bad outcomes.
 

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This is not true. If you'd had sex with well over 50 girls, it be fair to say your pretty socially competent. Doesn't mean you are then immune from screwing up your chances with girls that were initially attracted to you.
I did not claim that as an absolute. I meant as opposed to someone socially incompetent who will screw up most of his chances just because of that.
 

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this girl asked me how is your night going. I said not good, I am pissed off. she asked why. I said because I hate the state of the economy, everything is expensive, whatever money you have in the bank is about to become worthless. got her number, and she won't stop texting.
There is that one study that showed women different pictures of a man showing different emotions, and the one they were most attracted to was "brooding". Generally I think most things work better with a positive attitude, but attraction is a strange bird.
 

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no, that's what I am trying to get at. it's about your personality. there is no game.
I get you bro. What you say makes sense. The other poster on here may not get it but , if you have been there done it , you know.
 

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He's not full of sh1t. He's just purposely leaving out a lot of details. Focusing on one part of the interaction to support his claim that game doesn't matter. It gets clicks.
I think that the most important aspect that he is dodging is the quality of the girl . Most likely the girl in question was bellow average

from experience , unless she is not a finance person or just extremely into saving money ( never really saw good looking women that are like this anyhow ) , she will not even understand what are you taking about

She will just say that you are weird and cheap

game is not about that once you did X and Y happened . Game is about doing things that consistently get you to Y

was reading an LR about a guy that went with a girl to cook a chicken soup , and his whole idea is to build unforgiving experiences with women . Even though he is right , I doubt that cooking chicken soup with a girl that you did not bang actually consistently gets you to sleep with her

plus , she already isolated herself with you at your place … really doubt it was about the chicken soup

disinformation comes from both sides , red/black pill and pua communities . The truth is always somewhere in the middle

the problem is that each cult is extremist , meaning that they will just preach extremist stuff . Extremist stuff rarely is applicable in the real world

but as a rule , the bigger the gap between your fundamentals and hers … the less game you will need
 
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