How come we don't have BIG muscular chad looking mass shooters?

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I just want to hear this mental health plan

 

[DonJuanjr]

It doesn’t. You are rationalizing a scenario that does not exist.

Tell that to the those that survived that church shooting.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I just want to hear this mental health plan

You won’t because it is a deflection. A mentally ill, unarmed incel doesn’t commit mass shootings. They know it.

 

[Barrister]

Funny to see this debate on SS.

My opinion is that these guys who cause "mass shootings" (quotes because this typically is defined as 3-4 "victims" of gun violence which seems like a bit of a stretch) are going to inflict damage in any way that they can. Whether they use guns, knives, or a vehicle that they run into a big crowd of people, if they want to kill a lot of people they can in modern society. Unfortunately, with greater technology comes greater responsibility and greater risk.

Guns are easy from the standpoint that they typically are the least personal way of killing another human being. You pull the trigger and it is over. A knife requires close proximity; a car you will hear and feel the carnage. But the fact is if guns are outlawed, these other methods would start getting used by these psychos.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Guns are easy from the standpoint that they typically are the least personal way of killing another human being. You pull the trigger and it is over. A knife requires close proximity; a car you will hear and feel the carnage. But the fact is if guns are outlawed, these other methods would start getting used by these psychos.

Are there more or less mass shootings in countries with more gun restrictions?

 

[DonJuanjr]

Are there more or less mass shootings in countries with more gun restrictions?

Are there more or less freedoms in countries with more gun restrictions?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Are there more or less freedoms in countries with more gun restrictions?

The truth comes out. You prefer to just accept the daily mass shootings.

 

[DonJuanjr]

The truth comes out. You prefer to just accept the daily mass shootings.

If it wasn't "mass shootings", it would be "mass plowings", or "mass explosions" etc.... You are not looking at the long term ramifications of citizens not being able to defend themselves from their government.

 

[Barrister]

Are there more or less mass shootings in countries with more gun restrictions?

Less - but also far less people in essentially every one of those countries outside of China - where there are far worse atrocities.

No one is disputing that when something like this happens it is bad. But the "we need more gun restrictions" solution offered by the left isn't going to work for a variety of reasons. I would think that be obvious.

 

[EyeBRollin]

If it wasn't "mass shootings", it would be "mass plowings", or "mass explosions" etc....

Show us the daily mass plowings and mass explosions in Canada and Australia.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Show us the daily mass plowings and mass explosions in Canada and Australia.

Toronto is the most recent of many deliberate attacks involving vehicles

There have been many mass-casualty events in recent years where someone intentionally drove a vehicle into a crowd.

www.usatoday.com

There's one. You can look up all the rest. From a quick search, it appears the fatality rate is higher when vehicles are used...

Why Vehicles Are on the Rise as Weapons of Mass Killing

A global terrorism tracker lists 183 incidents involving vehicles from 1970 to the end of 2016—122 of them since 2010.

www.vice.com

 

[EyeBRollin]

Less - but also far less people in essentially every one of those countries outside of China - where there are far worse atrocities.

It’s less per capita, which accounts for population difference.

No one is disputing that when something like this happens it is bad. But the "we need more gun restrictions" solution offered by the left isn't going to work for a variety of reasons. I would think that be obvious.

It already works. It works all other countries. It works in “left” states. We have strict gun laws in New Jersey and by far the highest population density in the USA. We have low gun violence here. Not impossible to happen in my state, but far less probable than states like Texas and Alaska.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Toronto is the most recent of many deliberate attacks involving vehicles

There have been many mass-casualty events in recent years where someone intentionally drove a vehicle into a crowd.

www.usatoday.com

There's one. You can look up all the rest. From a quick search, it appears the fatality rate is higher when vehicles are used...

Specifically asked for daily mass plowings. That means show us empirical data that people are getting run over by incels at comparable rates to mass shootings here in the United States.

 

[DonJuanjr]

Show us the daily mass plowings and mass explosions in Canada and Australia.

What makes you so sure that just because they're not used as a primary method right now, means, they won't ever be?


Edit: No need to respond. I'm out.

 

[EyeBRollin]

What makes you so sure that just because they're not used as a primary method right now, means, they won't ever be?

What’s the matter? No data on mass plowings in other countries?

 

[Gamisch]

Are there more or less mass shootings in countries with more gun restrictions?

Please add 1st world because the cliche counter argument is" Mexico or somalia" or someting stupid like that.

Which one of these countries (
USA, canada Switzerland, Scandinavia, UK , Netherlands, Belgium Luxemburg Germany, new Zealand, Australia . Maybe add France and Spain. CHINA Japan.) Has the most mass shootings ???

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

The truth comes out. You prefer to just accept the daily mass shootings.

Sadly this is the truth. They are fine with seeing literally their own kind, family, rich people, and even children get slaughtered by an AR-15. Does the Ar-15 have a secret pocket pvssy attachment that I'm not aware of because I seriously don't get why someone would advocate turning this country into a CCP mirror or Red Dead Redemption Hell Hole to protect this gun?

 

[HaleyBaron]

It's amazing you guys are blind for this. In Europe you simply don't have to worry some crazy maniac has a gun. There are guns, but it's a severe crime, a extremely hot potato nobody wants to hold on to it too long.

You made several misconceptions, but thankfully I, the informed gun owner, is here to save the day.

In Europe, you still have maniacs with guns. You just had a shooting the other day, so you're not clean from that.

Second, I'm curious of this obsession with the ease of getting a weapon rather than looking at why someone will want to get a weapon to begin with. It's clear education in Europe is just as stunted as here in America. Which says volumes about the UN itself.

 

[HaleyBaron]

Do you even know what advanced weaponry your government has right now?

Here we go again with the "do you know how strong your government is?" If they were so strong, then why do they constantly bid out for weapons to civilians and private weapon manufacturers, the same people that I have access to? Why do they need our tax money to even fund their weapons to begin with, when I could easily put that money into buying my own small little army?

 

[Gamisch]

You made several misconceptions, but thankfully I, the informed gun owner, is here to save the day.

In Europe, you still have maniacs with guns. You just had a shooting the other day, so you're not clean from that.

Second, I'm curious of this obsession with the ease of getting a weapon rather than looking at why someone will want to get a weapon to begin with. It's clear education in Europe is just as stunted as here in America. Which says volumes about the UN itself.

We have east Europe as border, and they've been through many wars . That's the main reason there are guns in Europe.

Here we go again with the "do you know how strong your government is?" If they were so strong, then why do they constantly bid out for weapons to civilians and private weapon manufacturers, the same people that I have access to? Why do they need our tax money to even fund their weapons to begin with, when I could easily put that money into buying my own small little army?

You guys say you have to be ready to fight the "" tyranny of the government " because 300 years ago that might have been relevant. Or use the nazi invasion as a argument.

The question is ,how you gonna fight a Apache type of helicopter?

That's the trade off. You
choose a government which represents the core values and believes of his citizens. It's clear as day you guys are the cause for what's going on in the States.

Same with the homelessness problem. Over here you'll get arrested for sleeping outside. Even in the forest you'll need a permit. USA is a 2nd world country at best.

Land of the free my ass