Do alpha males pay for sex?

[Borknagar]

Paying for sex is terrible for a man's inner-Game. Men who pay for sex, in the eyes of women, are repulsive.

Women can't comprehend why someone would pay for sex (women have so much abundance that sex is just like turning on a tap for them). So if a woman has ever discovered you have paid for sex then her image of you is shattered forever.

Alpha's, at least in my definition, definitely don't pay for sex.

Technically though. We've all mostly indirectly paid for it.

 

[SW15]

Technically though. We've all mostly indirectly paid for it.

Every man pays for sex whether indirectly or directly.

Women can't comprehend why someone would pay for sex (women have so much abundance that sex is just like turning on a tap for them).

Until about ages 45-50, this is correct. There are a lot of women in their 40s and 50s that pay directly for sex. There is a contingent of menopausal/post menopausal White women that go to the Caribbean, Mediterranean, and South Pacific to have sex with exotic young male prostitutes.

Female sex tourism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Fruitbat]

I know a guy whose father did just that and who went on to do incredibly well with women - Russel Brand. He writes about it in his book.

Russell Brand is the biggest waste of space ever and gets his women 90% from his looks. He has nothing in the way of charisma and only got famous because he’s left wing and the media promoted him.

I think he’s the most annoying, insufferable tw@t of all time. Most the women who like him are brain dead, stupid cvnts.

I’m not sure what the big deal is with Katy Perry either. She’s about the plainest woman I’ve seen.

 

[Fruitbat]

Have you seen Brand's d1ck pic? Dude is packing a tictac

Brand's game, aside looks and social proofing, is that he is a verbal magician in the eyes of women. He's known to be infectiously charming. I'd say this is what annoys you - what comes across as gross, sleazy, rat behavior comes across as charming to women. And you're right to find him annoying - he's a classic dark triad fox in the henhouse type. There are pics of him on google where he is hugging Yuval Hariri (a know globalist extreme eugenicists). This is concerning 2-faced behavior from Brand, suggesting his entire persona is manipulated and manufactured.

He’s a verbal magician when he’s having articles ghost written.

When he’s unprepared in a debate, he just inserts the longest words he can, almost at random. “Paradigm” is one of his favourites.

Lots of men who are known to be attractive I respect. Who didn’t enjoy Johnny Depps dry wit?

RB is a fraud, anyone with a brain can see he’s not actually that bright, but he makes it flowery enough to pull in thick people.

 

[Fruitbat]

I'm not a fan of Brand, but I have noticed his effect on a broad array women and it's quite powerful and can't be denied. His body language, touching and verbal style is very full on, but it works. Annoyingly. It's like a sleazy Charm Assault that constantly pushes boundaries. Like you say, he's a fraud. Manufactured his image and there's not much authenticity there.

I think it’s 99% looks with brand. If he was a little short bald guy women would think he’s a creepy twerp.

 

[bat soup]

He’s a verbal magician when he’s having articles ghost written.

When he’s unprepared in a debate, he just inserts the longest words he can, almost at random. “Paradigm” is one of his favourites.

Lots of men who are known to be attractive I respect. Who didn’t enjoy Johnny Depps dry wit?

RB is a fraud, anyone with a brain can see he’s not actually that bright, but he makes it flowery enough to pull in thick people.

I agree that he talks a bunch of BS, but women seem to like it. Let's face it, most of them aren't that bright themselves.

 

[Murk]

I consider myself an alpha male, I'm certainly above the average human. I use escorts (sparingly).

I pump and dumped a blonde british girl last week. 15 minutes, cost me £60.

When I got home I felt great that I got to bust a nut and don't have to think about her again.

Why did I do it? Because she was local to me and it was risky, plus she was hot and I was horny, where else can I get pvssy at 1pm on a Thursday?

My girlfriend is better, but this was fun, would I go again, no, will I see an escort again, of course, maybe this year or next.

People know I see escorts, they don't judge me because they know I can get girls and I'm doing it out of my perversion rather than necessity, there's a big difference. How can anyone judge me for paying for sex when I look great and get girls for free?

You should only ever pay with your time.

When you reach a certain level of success your time is worth more than money. I rather spend money than time every single time.

 

[corrector]

I consider myself an alpha male, I'm certainly above the average human. I use escorts (sparingly).

I pump and dumped a blonde british girl last week. 15 minutes, cost me £60.

When I got home I felt great that I got to bust a nut and don't have to think about her again.

Why did I do it? Because she was local to me and it was risky, plus she was hot and I was horny, where else can I get pvssy at 1pm on a Thursday?

My girlfriend is better, but this was fun, would I go again, no, will I see an escort again, of course, maybe this year or next.

People know I see escorts, they don't judge me because they know I can get girls and I'm doing it out of my perversion rather than necessity, there's a big difference. How can anyone judge me for paying for sex when I look great and get girls for free?


When you reach a certain level of success your time is worth more than money. I rather spend money than time every single time.

You sound confused:

Ordered an outcall (escort) to my house last night.

I directed her across the street opposite while watching, recording and masturbating from my window. Her driver (some Sergey) tried to get me to collect her from the car, I told him that ain't happening. Then directed her to my doorstep, she looked nice, I invite her in. She doesn't speak much...

www.sosuave.net

Tell me, if you groped a woman in public and ended up in court for sexual assault, would you tell a judge that you get women easily, and have a girlfriend, and they should drop the charges? Maybe you'd bring your girlfriend up to the stand in defense? The fact is you are paying for it. There are lots of alpha guys on here who won't even think about it and your are not honest about this with your gf.

 

[member160292]

I was excited to have my first escort encounter years ago. I showed up to a Best Western hotel room reeking of cigarettes and cup noodles.

 

[Murk]

You sound confused:

Ordered an outcall (escort) to my house last night.

I directed her across the street opposite while watching, recording and masturbating from my window. Her driver (some Sergey) tried to get me to collect her from the car, I told him that ain't happening. Then directed her to my doorstep, she looked nice, I invite her in. She doesn't speak much...

www.sosuave.net

Tell me, if you groped a woman in public and ended up in court for sexual assault, would you tell a judge that you get women easily, and have a girlfriend, and they should drop the charges? Maybe you'd bring your girlfriend up to the stand in defense? The fact is you are paying for it. There are lots of alpha guys on here who won't even think about it and your are not honest about this with your gf.

You seem to be confused, there’s nothing illegal about what I do where I’m located.

I don’t care if other guys don’t do what I do. The most high value men in society pay for sex rather than their time. I’m honest about seeing escorts with my gf but no, I’m not honest about cheating on my gf maybe you would like her Insta to white knight and tell her what a bad guy I am?

Self proclaimed alpha that sometimes pays for sex reporting for duty.

 

[corrector]

You seem to be confused, there’s nothing illegal about what I do where I’m located.

It is illegal because you went to an incall. In UK they have indirect laws about it. You can't solicit (discuss sex for money) and brothels are illegal.

I don’t care if other guys don’t do what I do.

That does not change the argument. Most alpha-guys on here wouldn't touch a common hooker with a 10-foot pole.

The most high value men in society pay for sex rather than their time.

You mean rich guys. Are you saying that every rich person is a high-value man in society?

They may high-class escorts, mistresses, or have other arrangements. Certainly not the ghetto type of incall escort you saw for 60 pounds.
That's the type of hor that anyone can see. Did you bump into another guy who was coming in on the way out?

You just saw one tier above a street hooker.

I’m honest about seeing escorts with my gf but no, I’m not honest about cheating on my gf maybe you would like her Insta to white knight and tell her what a bad guy I am?

You should get yourself tested by a doctor since it's not fair to your gf to pass potential STDs to her.

You are not honest with her because you are afraid of her and how she will react. How can a coward be an alpha-guy? I thought you could get women. Would it matter how she reacts? If you are so alpha-guy then you'll simply replace her with another gal.

When a real alpha-guy like Justin Beiber visits hookers, he still has lots of fans who want to be with him. Yet, you are afraid of losing your gf that you don't really care about? Isn't that the scarcity mindset?

Self proclaimed alpha that sometimes pays for sex reporting for duty.

Sure.

 

[Gamisch]

People are obvisouly confused about the terms Alpamale and Chad ,and tend d to mix these up as if these are one and the same.

A alpha Male will not ever pay for something easily and readily available like sex in the form of prostitution. That would be a disgrace to his own honour. A alpha would rather pay twice as much for a expensive night out than to degrade his own self worth by performing such a act.

A Chad on the other hand might. A chad is just a guy who is perceived as good looking, but that says nothing about his mental condition a d his self image. A mental weak Chad can easily be insecure, and addicted to physical relief and chase it constantly. Chad might also be in constant need for " confidence fuel " , and getting this through women. So yes, he will try to fack every woman just to maintain the image he has about himself.

Chad and alpha don't have to be one person. If a man reaches that level, he is a dangerous man, but because he would have a code of honour other men shouldn't be worried too much about Alpha Chad hitting on their wives.

 

[Gamisch]

You seem to be confused, there’s nothing illegal about what I do where I’m located.

I don’t care if other guys don’t do what I do. The most high value men in society pay for sex rather than their time. I’m honest about seeing escorts with my gf but no, I’m not honest about cheating on my gf maybe you would like her Insta to white knight and tell her what a bad guy I am?

Self proclaimed alpha that sometimes pays for sex reporting for duty.

This is what I mean. Alpha, Chad, and High value man, are three separate entities. On rare occasions these 3 qualities intermingle with one another.

High value men who pay for sex are still low value men in the eyes of the women they pay. A true high value man Alpha should be able to tell a woman how he wants the relationship to take form, set rules and boundaries from the get go and if she does not comply she will be replaced

 

[Who Dares Win]

It cracks me up to hear guys that are drivers/cooks/cleaners/servants to a middle aged angry women that settled with after being expired, to proudly brag about not paying for sex.

Holy F, they dont pay with money but they pay with pieces of their souls.

In my opinion paying for sex is for losers only when it comes from a position of weakness...a decent smv guy that wants a quickie before going to back to his precision tasks is hardly a loser in my opinion unlike the guy in the first example.

A real loser is a guy that pay for sex with a professional while he is there seeking intimacy rather than sexual release.

 

[ezio6]

This thread will continue until the end of the world lmao , anyway im just bumping and grab my popcorn

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Every man pays for sex whether indirectly or directly.



Until about ages 45-50, this is correct. There are a lot of women in their 40s and 50s that pay directly for sex. There is a contingent of menopausal/post menopausal White women that go to the Caribbean, Mediterranean, and South Pacific to have sex with exotic young male prostitutes.

Female sex tourism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Good catch on 40 and up women possibly "paying" for sex.

 

[Murk]

It is illegal because you went to an incall. In UK they have indirect laws about it. You can't solicit (discuss sex for money) and brothels are illegal.



That does not change the argument. Most alpha-guys on here wouldn't touch a common hooker with a 10-foot pole.



You mean rich guys. Are you saying that every rich person is a high-value man in society?

They may high-class escorts, mistresses, or have other arrangements. Certainly not the ghetto type of incall escort you saw for 60 pounds.
That's the type of hor that anyone can see. Did you bump into another guy who was coming in on the way out?

You just saw one tier above a street hooker.



You should get yourself tested by a doctor since it's not fair to your gf to pass potential STDs to her.

You are not honest with her because you are afraid of her and how she will react. How can a coward be an alpha-guy? I thought you could get women. Would it matter how she reacts? If you are so alpha-guy then you'll simply replace her with another gal.

When a real alpha-guy like Justin Beiber visits hookers, he still has lots of fans who want to be with him. Yet, you are afraid of losing your gf that you don't really care about? Isn't that the scarcity mindset?



Sure.

It's not illegal because I don't use brothels and the women are not coerced, I don't really want to debate this with you when google is at your fingertips, I'm actually living here and experiencing this reality.

You mention the price of the hooker and the fact anyone can see her as if shes my partner or a status symbol? I had an itch to scratch so I scratched it. Not me being desperate for sex, because I had sex the night before. Seeing escorts doesn't make me alpha, being a self-made man with terrible upbringing, living a life way above my peers with financial freedom and superseding my baseline socioeconomic standing, plus being genetically gifted with height, looks and intelligence, plus having confidence and a natural aura of authority, makes me alpha. I don't need anyone online to verify this when I'm constantly reminded IRL of how good I have it. I don't tell my GF because I don't want to hurt her, it would complicate my life and go against the atmosphere of calm compliance I've cultivated in my 33 years.

If you and @Gamisch and whoever the fvck else want to perceive what I do as inferior, that's fine, I'm not doing it for you and my life trajectory remains the same.

You called Justin Bieber an alpha so I can't take your opinions seriously. A child star that looks like a lesbian raised on crackers and cheese who is rich, doesn't make an alpha. Apha is standing for something and not bending or taking the knee to submit to societal or outside pressure. Alpha is going against the grain, because deep down what you say goes, that society and the majority do not rule and are not always right. I may do sketchy ****, but I own it and I'm unapologetic about the way I live. I live boldly and answer to no one and to me that's alpha.

 

[Gamisch]

It's not illegal because I don't use brothels and the women are not coerced, I don't really want to debate this with you when google is at your fingertips, I'm actually living here and experiencing this reality.

You mention the price of the hooker and the fact anyone can see her as if shes my partner or a status symbol? I had an itch to scratch so I scratched it. Not me being desperate for sex, because I had sex the night before. Seeing escorts doesn't make me alpha, being a self-made man with terrible upbringing, living a life way above my peers with financial freedom and superseding my baseline socioeconomic standing, plus being genetically gifted with height, looks and intelligence, plus having confidence and a natural aura of authority, makes me alpha. I don't need anyone online to verify this when I'm constantly reminded IRL of how good I have it. I don't tell my GF because I don't want to hurt her, it would complicate my life and go against the atmosphere of calm compliance I've cultivated in my 33 years.

If you and @Gamisch and whoever the fvck else want to perceive what I do as inferior, that's fine, I'm not doing it for you and my life trajectory remains the same.

You called Justin Bieber an alpha so I can't take your opinions seriously. A child star that looks like a lesbian raised on crackers and cheese who is rich, doesn't make an alpha. Apha is standing for something and not bending or taking the knee to submit to societal or outside pressure. Alpha is going against the grain, because deep down what you say goes, that society and the majority do not rule and are not always right. I may do sketchy ****, but I own it and I'm unapologetic about the way I live. I live boldly and answer to no one and to me that's alpha.

No need to defend or explain yourself bro. We're just discussing how and when a man can be at his best. Obvisouly life is fluid and at the end of the day our goal is to be wiser than we were yesterday. Everybody has his own opinion what a Alpha is. If you feel Alpha then who am I to argue against that?

Personally I've noticed that the need for payed sex messes with my frame, the entire need for too much sex is imo a unhealthy state of mind and a indicator there are deeper issue at play. Again , this is a personal opinion.

Apha is standing for something and not bending or taking the knee to submit to societal or outside pressure. Alpha is going against the grain, because deep down what you say goes, that society and the majority do not rule and are not always right. I may do sketchy ****, but I own it and I'm unapologetic about the way I live. I live boldly and answer to no one and to me that's alpha.

And about Justin Bieber( if you are talking to me regarding that topic). Although he started as a child star, one could argue he devolped into a modern day HVM , Chad,or even Alpha. He can use above quoted as well. He is rich, has a big team of people depending on him, women want him and he has status.Can do whatever he wants whenever he wants it. Same goes for L di Carpio, J Timberlake, prime Hugh Grant ect. In a 1 on 1 fight I would murk( no pun intended) them all, yet they have the money to get me buried alive . If you LOOK like them , other men can argue they are not their favorite role models, but they do tick of all the boxes you've mentioned. Lets be honoust, if your gf has a change to fvck one of these guys she would do so in a heartbeat. Just because the Rock has big muscles doesn't make him more Alpha or less beta then the names I mentioned .

 

[Murk]

No need to defend or explain yourself bro. We're just discussing how and when a man can be at his best. Obvisouly life is fluid and at the end of the day our goal is to be wiser than we were yesterday. Everybody has his own opinion what a Alpha is. If you feel Alpha then who am I to argue against that?

Personally I've noticed that the need for payed sex messes with my frame, the entire need for too much sex is imo a unhealthy state of mind and a indicator there are deeper issue at play. Again , this is a personal opinion.

Apha is standing for something and not bending or taking the knee to submit to societal or outside pressure. Alpha is going against the grain, because deep down what you say goes, that society and the majority do not rule and are not always right. I may do sketchy ****, but I own it and I'm unapologetic about the way I live. I live boldly and answer to no one and to me that's alpha.

And about Justin Bieber( if you are talking to me regarding that topic). Although he started as a child star, one could argue he devolped into a modern day HVM , Chad,or even Alpha. He can use above quoted as well. He is rich, has a big team of people depending on him, women want him and he has status.Can do whatever he wants whenever he wants it. Same goes for L di Carpio, J Timberlake, prime Hugh Grant ect. In a 1 on 1 fight I would murk( no pun intended) them all, yet they have the money to get me buried alive . If you LOOK like them , other men can argue they are not their favorite role models, but they do tick of all the boxes you've mentioned. Lets be honoust, if your gf has a change to fvck one of these guys she would do so in a heartbeat. Just because the Rock has big muscles doesn't make him more Alpha or less beta then the names I mentioned .

No the Justin Beiber comment was aimed at the guy calling him alpha. I'm being defensive, I'm naturally defensive and feel attacked, working on that.

I agree with you and most of your posts here because, you're (in my opinion) a real man that has real-world experience posting here not to get points.

Escorts for me don't de-value men, if they are not dependant on them.

You're right, Hv/Chad/Alpha - it's all subjective - but it's a mindset, it's not an action, therefore, seeing escorts and paying for sex, the act itself, can't be low value or beta without context.

 

[corrector]

Escorts for me don't de-value men, if they are not dependant on them.

But you are @Murk.