Your thoughts on the latest abortion ruling

[Epicwinguy]

Honestly, what's wrong with this?

And they say I’m a troll.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Its not a simple retort - it’s the law. The issue is complicated. Don’t like it? Change it, if you’re not able to vote work on it, otherwise there are plenty other places you can re-emigrate to.

I agree. Federal government is needed.... Even though the simple retort defending this decision is that it's up to the states, the party in power in each is subject to change each election. Not to mention that women will seek to do it anyway so best to at least have it regulated. I feel the same regarding pot.

 

[Reyaj]

Its not a simple retort - it’s the law. The issue is complicated. Don’t like it? Change it, if you’re not able to vote work on it, otherwise there are plenty other places you can re-emigrate to.

Wtf are you talking about? Lol

 

[Billtx49]

Wtf are you talking about? Lol

I believe he means that if you don’t like your states current or new abortion laws, then vote against them, get active politically for change, or move to another state where you like their laws.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

I never understood how it is in men’s interest to have the government enforce a prohibition on abortion.

Can someone break it down for me?

For the sake of argument, it promotes a level playing field. Men never had any say in abortion to begin with, and hypothetically women would be in the same boat.

 

[BadBoy89]

SCOTUS did not outlaw abortion, it gave the power to the States, where it always should have been to begin with. Each state, has legislative bodies that are representative of their constituents- they were duly elected to office to make laws for the state they are in. They hold the power to pass laws that are representing the will of the people. If you live in a state that doesn’t represent your views change your elected officials. Or move.

This isn’t about abortion rights it’s about states’ rights, just like gun control.

True

But then why are people, mostly women, freaking out? They cannot afford to move? Or are there too many Chads in the States that allow abortions and too many Betas in the States that don’t?

The federal government has the power to coin money, to regulate commerce, to declare war, to raise and maintain armed forces, and to establish a Post Office. That’s it.

Again true.

So 6/9 Supreme Court Justices, the most powerful and allegedly smartest people of the most powerful country world, have just said “The federal government has the power to declare war and kill fetuses of other countries, but to kill fetuses of our own country, not our problem.”

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Their gnashing teeth because they want attention. If you watch the protests it’s always an utterly unboinkable woman screeching at the microphone, or a 300lb purple haired bulldyke. Its weird.

As far as what SCOTUS can do? Again not a federal issue it’s a states rights issue.

True

But then why are people, mostly women, freaking out? They cannot afford to move? Or are there too many Chads in the States that allow abortions and too many Betas in the States that don’t?

Again true.

So 6/9 Supreme Court Justices, the most powerful and allegedly smartest people of the most powerful country world, have just said “The federal government has the power to declare war and kill fetuses of other countries, but to kill fetuses of our own country, not our problem.”

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Wtf are you talking about? Lol

I’m replying directly to your post, left as an exercise for the reader.

 

[EyeBRollin]

For the sake of argument, it promotes a level playing field. Men never had any say in abortion to begin with, and hypothetically women would be in the same boat.

How does the government prohibiting abortion create a level playing field?

 

[Billtx49]

How does the government prohibiting abortion create a level playing field?

Let’s talk facts, they never prohibited it. They said it was Not constitutional for the federal government to rule over. It now returns to being a states law issue after 50 years of being unconstitutional .…

 

[EyeBRollin]

Let’s talk facts, they never prohibited it. They said it was Not constitutional for the federal government to rule over. It now returns to being a states law issue after 50 years.…

Some states have passed abortion bans. Others are drafting them right bow. How do government abortion bans level the playing field?

 

[Billtx49]

Some states have passed abortion bans. Others are drafting them right bow. How do government abortion bans level the playing field?

Doesn’t matter unless you live in that state. Results on new laws obviously not in yet.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Doesn’t matter unless you live in that state.

So, not going to answer? How do abortion restrictions level the playing field?

 

[Epicwinguy]

So, not going to answer? How do abortion restrictions level the playing field?

Because it chooses everyone to choose between celibacy or becoming a parent/shell of their former selves.

 

[Billtx49]

How do abortion restrictions level the playing field?

We are not dealing with 1+1=2 here. The states laws yet to be passed or updated is an unknown and it Will eventually vary by state of residence.
Until that time, this is only a theoretical question with no absolute answer.

 

[DonJuanjr]

It now returns to being a states law issue after 50 years of being unconstitutional .…

Who goes to jail when the government broke the law for 50 years?

 

[Billtx49]

Who goes to jail when the government broke the law for 50 years?

Perfectly good question. Think I heard almost 63.5 million dead fetuses since 1973. It’s massive, but given the scope of it, probably nobody.
A more important thought is to think of the amount of women that value their own lives convenience over a child’s life …

 

[Bible_Belt]

A more important thought is to think of the amount of women that value their own lives convenience over a child’s life …

The majority of women who have abortions already have children. Concern about not being able to provide for their existing children is one of the three main reasons women in a recent piece of survey research stated as their reasoning. The other two reasons were that the father would not, or could not, support the child. Convenience is a myth.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I'll care about women's life impacting child decisions when men have a right to opt out of rights and responsibilities. I wonder for those who disagree if they also feel adoption should be outlawed.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Actually, there were trigger laws in 13 states:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/abortion-state-laws-criminalization-roe/

We are not dealing with 1+1=2 here. The states laws yet to be passed or updated is an unknown and it Will eventually vary by state of residence.
Until that time, this is only a theoretical question with no absolute answer.