The Russian invasion of Ukraine and the Soviet Invasion of Finland (Winter War 1939)---Similarities

[oc16]

History often does repeat itself. Seems like the Russians have no respect for their troops either and treat them like cannon fodder.

In the Winter War, the Russians didn't give their troops winter clothing since they thought it would be a quick victory; those olive drab uniforms made easy targets against the snowy Finnish landscape. They also sent mechanized units through the thick Finnish forest only to be slaughtered.

Look at the two pictures; sight looks eerily similar.

Russia Invades Ukraine: Lessons of Finland's Winter War Against Soviets - Bloomberg

 

[Plinco]

I thought of the same thing weeks ago. Something you have to understand about Russia is that their logistics system is terrible in any war. It's a combination of the geography, climate, and culture that has a lot to do with it.

 

[Xenom0rph]

Never in Russia's history has their government ever shown their soldiers or citizens any respect.

Part of the reason why Russia has a population crisis today is because they treated their soldiers and citizens like canon fodder in WWII and in the subsequent famines that followed.

This is also why the Ukrainians are fighting tooth and nail to NOT be part of Russia..... They know Russia's gov will treat them just as poorly as they treat ethnic Russians.....

 

[MatureDJ]

Never in Russia's history has their government ever shown their soldiers or citizens any respect.

Part of the reason why Russia has a population crisis today is because they treated their soldiers and citizens like canon fodder in WWII and in the subsequent famines that followed.

This is also why the Ukrainians are fighting tooth and nail to NOT be part of Russia..... They know Russia's gov will treat them just as poorly as they treat ethnic Russians.....

What's amazing is that so many Russian chicks are HAF when they're young, and so one would think the men there would be quite horny.

 

[oc16]

What's amazing is that so many Russian chicks are HAF when they're young, and so one would think the men there would be quite horny.

They are. There is one that goes to my gym. I'm not sure if she is Russian, but definitely has that Eastern Slav look. She is noticeably hotter than the western women in the gym, high cheekbones and cat like eyes (think Melania Trump)

 

[Xenom0rph]

What's amazing is that so many Russian chicks are HAF when they're young, and so one would think the men there would be quite horny.

Of all the European groups, Slavic women tend to hit the wall harder than most when they reach late 20s.... This is known as the "babushka" phenomena...

It's fairly common to find western Euro women who qualify as MILFs, but it's rare to find Slavic women who qualify as MILFs....

Slavic females are smoking hot in their 20s but fall off hard when they reach 30....

Even super hotties Maria Sharapova or Mila Jovovich arent looking too good these days, whereas Heather Graham can still get it....

Also, Russian guys are just as horny as any other group of guys, but it's the economic situation of Eastern Europe that discourages young people from wanting children...

 

[Grounded eagle]

Any legendary Ukrainian snipers we should know about?

 

[oc16]

Any legendary Ukrainian snipers we should know about?

Not sure, but I think 4 of the 6 Russian Generals killed were taken out by snipers. I think some are trained by the British SAS

 

[Kotaix]

The mainstream media is lying about Russia getting their asses kicked in ukraine. If the russians wanted to actually conquer Ukraine, they could carpet bomb the crap out of them and demolish their infrastructure. But they're being very careful not to kill civilians.

That article is propaganda garbage.

The Ukrainians have been using civilians as human shields to prevent the russians from shelling them and shooting at anyone who tries to use the humanitarian corridors to escape the war area. They're also sending out the dumb "freedom fighters" who have come to ukraine from all over the world on suicide missions.

 

[BillyPilgrim]

Thank you @Kotaix

Both conflicts involve the eastern half of Europe and the season of winter, so there are indeed some similarities there.

 

[oc16]

The mainstream media is lying about Russia getting their asses kicked in ukraine. If the russians wanted to actually conquer Ukraine, they could carpet bomb the crap out of them and demolish their infrastructure. But they're being very careful not to kill civilians.

That article is propaganda garbage.

The Ukrainians have been using civilians as human shields to prevent the russians from shelling them and shooting at anyone who tries to use the humanitarian corridors to escape the war area. They're also sending out the dumb "freedom fighters" who have come to ukraine from all over the world on suicide missions.

I know the Russians have more firepower than the Ukranians and a larger army but they are getting their asses whooped if your talking about military casualties.

Russians are not trying to harm civilians? What about all the maternity wards, six hospitals, schools, theatres and malls they have bombed?

 

[HaleyBaron]

I know the Russians have more firepower than the Ukranians and a larger army but they are getting their asses whooped if your talking about military casualties.

Russians are not trying to harm civilians? What about all the maternity wards, six hospitals, schools, theatres and malls they have bombed?

Ukrainan propaganda setups. Right now, Ukraine isnt trying to fight them but instead market to the world "Hey, isnt this a bad thing?" So they're acting like your typical schemer with placing tactical points next to civilian areas, a tactic that should be far more shamed globally than what all the news keep saying about "Russia doing this and that." Yeah, that hospital got hit. Ukraine purposefully put their military next to it! Which is the opposite of what someone trying to win a fight would do.

 

[MatureDJ]

The mainstream media is lying about Russia getting their asses kicked in ukraine. If the russians wanted to actually conquer Ukraine, they could carpet bomb the crap out of them and demolish their infrastructure. But they're being very careful not to kill civilians.

That article is propaganda garbage.

The Ukrainians have been using civilians as human shields to prevent the russians from shelling them and shooting at anyone who tries to use the humanitarian corridors to escape the war area. They're also sending out the dumb "freedom fighters" who have come to ukraine from all over the world on suicide missions.

Wow, the Russian Trolls have invaded SoSuave ...

 

[Zimbabwe]

I still find it amazing that people are assuming Russia's losing (Ukraine itself is proving otherwise) because they haven't taken the entire country yet. "Ermagerd, Russians are retarded. They haven't taken over a country the size of Texas with 50 million people in less than a month".

It took America, 177k troops, a month long aerial bombing campaign and three weeks to reach Baghdad. Iraq is much smaller, less populated, with virtually no modern equipment and poor training outside the RG (which were slightly better).

Yes, the thousands of ATGMs and MANPADS are bumping up Ukrainian efficacy (likely one of the only reason they haven't been completely steamrolled), they're still losing. No matter how much western media says they've killed a million billion Russians, tanks, etc, doesn't make it so.

Even the Pentagon is starting to take shots at this ridiculously optimistic narrative Ukraine and our media have spun out.

@EyeBRollin
@MatureDJ

 

[Xenom0rph]

Ukraine's navy just sank a Russian ship today....

There's no way to spin this, Russia is performing poorly....

For the past 25 years Putin has had a spotless record of achieving his goals with ruthless efficiency.....

The Ukraine situation will be a blemish on his record and could be the domino that triggers his downfall...

 

[Alvafe]

History often does repeat itself. Seems like the Russians have no respect for their troops either and treat them like cannon fodder.

In the Winter War, the Russians didn't give their troops winter clothing since they thought it would be a quick victory; those olive drab uniforms made easy targets against the snowy Finnish landscape. They also sent mechanized units through the thick Finnish forest only to be slaughtered.

Look at the two pictures; sight looks eerily similar.

Russia Invades Ukraine: Lessons of Finland's Winter War Against Soviets - Bloomberg

all army treat they soldiers as cannon fodder, only diference is some lie better telling they are not, understand, wars are never for the good of people they are always to fill someone ego

 

[EyeBRollin]

Wow, the Russian Trolls have invaded SoSuave ...

Man- these aren’t trolls. Real members…

 

[Machine10033]

In a few months we will all find out the truth. The sad truth is Russia has covertly been destroying America for decades. They knew they could not win by force...so for generations they engaged in the long game in an effort to destroy this county from within. The communist influence on both ends of the political spectrum is strong. Russia has infiltrated our schools, media, politics, business and entertainment. The “woke” movement is no doubt part of that effort to collapse us from the inside. What better way than to create a mostly useless, weak and confused population... esp among those of Military age. When I see college age kids begging for socialism or communism in America it makes me sick.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Man- these aren’t trolls. Real members…

You guys don’t find it odd that according to media Ukraine is winning yet they keep begging for ceasefire? You don’t beg for a ceasefire when you are winning a war

 

[Machine10033]

You guys don’t find it odd that according to media Ukraine is winning yet they keep begging for ceasefire? You don’t beg for a ceasefire when you are winning a war

I find everything odd... all news is garbage and can be manipulated. I have no one in direct contact with either side... so I will never know the truth. I find it odd that Zelinsky is still alive.... I find it odd that the air defense systems were not taken out prior to the invasion.. I find it odd that they didn’t cripple /shut off the electric grid.... it makes me wonder if they wanted this war broadcast to the whole world. Either Russia is much more incompetent than we ever imagined... or there is a much more complex game plan ?