I don't have any success with online dating

[biggoal]

I don't think it's your fault. again, as I and many others in other threads said OLD has gone way down, especially since Covid with more women being plump now and a lot less to choose from.

Later I'll post pics of women I've matched with, chatted, or went on dates with from OLD before and up to when Covid hit.

 

[biggoal]

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[Atom Smasher]

In person is still better than OLD in most areas. On OLD it seems if you put more effort into you messages not just "hi" it works a bit better but very time consuming. My business is busy right now and I don't simply have time to write out well thought messages, just cut and paste form messages and hope for the best.

OLD is very time consuming when you think of it.

This is precisely why you fail.

Why would you expect results from half-hearted efforts?

 

[SW15]

A very good connection of the pickiness of employers and chicks. Before I had thrown in the towel on work, I was having a lower acceptance rate of getting an interview than my current rate with American Tinderettes. A key difference is that JBW Theory does not apply to jobs, especially for programmers.

Just Be White (JBW) is a bullshiit idea. There are tons of white males who are incels and nearcels. If someone were to break down the incel population by race/ethnicity in the United States, over 50% of the incel population in the United States would be white. Non-Hispanic whites are still 60% of the US population. Neil Strauss is an example of a white male who was incel/nearcel before he started running with Mystery and other PUAs.

Many men who are incels hold jobs. Inceldom is common in STEM occupations, particularly tech and engineering jobs. There are plenty of incels out there who have high paying STEM jobs. A lot of engineering men who are incels manage to make it through first round interviews with HR representatives, who are most often female.

 

[biggoal]

This is precisely why you fail.

Why would you expect results from half-hearted efforts?

I forgot who said it but it was one of our regular posters. Old is fine in a pinch like youre swiping why sitting on the Sh*TTER to kill time but not to spend a ton of time on it.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Well, you only have 2 options, cold Approaching or OLD, so your just gonna have to make a choice......stop making excuses and find what works for you.

No, you should build a better social circle. If you suck at it then you should improve your social skills to start with...

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I don't think it's your fault. again, as I and many others in other threads said OLD has gone way down, especially since Covid with more women being plump now and a lot less to choose from.

Later I'll post pics of women I've matched with, chatted, or went on dates with from OLD before and up to when Covid hit.

 

[Young OG]

I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.

What have you done to try to get better results on OLD? Did you try professional pictures, have them rated on photofeeler, then use the best rated? What apps do you use? What do you open with? More info is needed to know why you're not getting results. Minimal effort = minimal results. Do you think Michael Jordan was just handed an NBA contract? No, he had to work hard and put in effort to get it.

Have you tried approaching sets at clubs or bars? It's a lot easier then during the day. You could also try Walmart and Target. I see women alone there all the time.

 

[firstbornunicorn]

I prefer cold approach with groups because I have the skills for it and it just works better for me

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

It's interesting that you mention HR because HR is a common occupational pursuit for women. The goal of HR is not to hire you, it is to get rid of you. HR screens out. When you deal with women on apps, their goal is to get rid of you and not make you their boyfriend.

Job searching has gotten worse since applications for jobs moved online around the late 1990s/early 2000s. I graduated college in the 2004-05 school year, so late 2004/early 2005 was when I first started getting into job applications. Before the late 1990s, people had to go to employers and fill out paper applications. That required some ambition, kind of like cold approaching does.

Employees are ghosting their employers. I love it. Clarey was pointing out that importance of 1. Having in demand skill
2. Not interviewing HR. If you are a surgeon, programmer, accountant, IT, tradesman etc you can by pass HR. Clarey also thinks to leave women corporate. That men should go into entrepreneurship. I agree if at all possible. Naseem Taleb wrote anti fragile. Herein lies the lane men should be in or should get in now.

Ever since online applications for jobs became a thing, every position (especially white collar) has gotten more applicants. Even since dating websites and swipe apps became a thing, each vagina has gotten more inquiries for pounding it.

Both employers and single females on websites/apps filter on the most ridiculous qualifications.

I've learned to treat job searching a bit like seduction. If I have to do an HR interview with some young woman, I'll act more like a seducer.

Unless I hit unemployed status, I refuse to see HR. If not the hiring manager GTFO. It's also to screen for fit. If the manager is a piece of **** leave. No. having a FU fund helps that. in which case, you can tell a **** sucker where to go. you can walk.

Dave Ramsey is a dork and a blue pill dweeb but bang on with emergency fund. Average person has zero in savings or retirement.

Job searching is more effective when you go straight to the source, the hiring manager for that position. Seducing is more effective when you go make the direct approach of the woman in-person.



The 2020s is going to see much more of this. Gen X women stayed single later into life but eventually were reasonable enough to settle. The Millennials born in the 1980s were the participation trophy generation. Millennials are snowflakes who want their trophies. A Millennial white woman born in the 1980s and raised in the 1990s from a middle class background or higher isn't going to settle. She'd rather be 42 with cats and dogs than settle. She was raised post second wave feminism and feminists have been preaching "Never Settle!" to women for decades. Millennial women drank the Kool-Aid more than predecessor generation.

Enjoy the Decline! Thanks Clarey & @DEEZEDBRAH.

I got my troll cannon charged up.

 

[biggoal]

Just an example of the quality before covid. Now i rarely soo those types on old. Huge difference.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Just an example of the quality before covid

Covid is cooked, baked and done dude. Move on...
Not single person here gives a fvck about it in Scandinavia and rest of Europe. It is over, restrictions are over, the pandemic is over. Its all past.

 

[biggoal]

Covid is cooked, baked and done dude. Move on...
Not single person here gives a fvck about it in Scandinavia and rest of Europe. It is over, restrictions are over, the pandemic is over. Its all past.

All you hear in the media in the us is covid constantly drilled in.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

All you hear in the media in the us is covid constantly drilled in.

That's because your politicians are idiots and power hungry I suppose. I cannot se any other reason. Honk with your American truckers mate for your freedom.. xD

Here in Sweden its all gone back to normal and news papers don't write about it anymore.
You don't hear about it anymore either in TV/radio and people don't care about it. Same back in my home country Denmark.
We all moved on to normal.

 

[biggoal]

That's because your politicians are idiots and power hungry I suppose. I cannot se any other reason. Honk with your American truckers mate for your freedom.. xD

Here in Sweden its all gone back to normal and news papers don't write about it anymore.
You don't hear about it anymore either in TV/radio and people don't care about it. Same back in my home country Denmark.
We all moved on to normal.

Girls are wearing the mask a lot still in public!

 

[Barrister]

Girls are wearing the mask a lot still in public!

I have been to four different states in the past two weeks. Outside of the airport, no one was wearing masks anywhere. And this was an equal number of red and blue states.

 

[biggoal]

I have been to four different states in the past two weeks. Outside of the airport, no one was wearing masks anywhere. And this was an equal number of red and blue states.

Here in this part of fl lots are still masking up.

 

[EyeBRollin]

I banged girls during the height of the pandemic. Then I met my fiancé. I am in metro NYC, area with the harshest restrictions. COVID-19 is not an excuse to suck at dating.

 

[biggoal]

I banged girls during the height of the pandemic. Then I met my fiancé. I am in metro NYC, area with the harshest restrictions. COVID-19 is not an excuse to suck at dating.

But if you are using old the selection totally tanked and hasn't recovered from covid at least here. Nyc old is different than most of the country.

 

[EyeBRollin]

But if you are using old the selection totally tanked and hasn't recovered from covid at least here. Nyc old is different than most of the country.

we have established dozens of times that you have a geography problem. Your best options are to move to a major city or use social media game and fly girls out.