I don't have any success with online dating

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Not too many pudgies here. Great climate. Lots of outdoor opportunities. Abundant fresh food. Beautiful scenery.
Also have lots of hills too which get you in shape and less humid out there so more people outside. Coworker went to LA and he said the people were in MUCH better shape out there than our area. Around here it's all fried, tourist trap foods.
 

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Also have lots of hills too which get you in shape and less humid out there so more people outside. Coworker went to LA and he said the people were in MUCH better shape out there than our area. Around here it's all fried, tourist trap foods.
Move. Get out of Grannyfattyville, Florida.
 

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Just Be White (JBW) is a bullshiit idea. There are tons of white males who are incels and nearcels. If someone were to break down the incel population by race/ethnicity in the United States, over 50% of the incel population in the United States would be white. Non-Hispanic whites are still 60% of the US population. Neil Strauss is an example of a white male who was incel/nearcel before he started running with Mystery and other PUAs.
Have u seen the amount of Indian and Asian incels? They very easily dwarf the white incel population in the west.
 

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Have u seen the amount of Indian and Asian incels? They very easily dwarf the white incel population in the west.
Being White is a huge advantage in dating. White women prefer you. Non-White women fetishize you. They’ll constantly want to show you off to family and friends. Post Social media pics of you & her together.
 

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Very different from how women approach a guy in a group. My experience is a girl & her wing will both start talking to the target guy. And completely ignore the other guys.
I've never seen women approach a man in a group like that, let alone approach at all.
Women approaching is less common. I've not seen this type of female-led approach either.

Move. Get out of Grannyfattyville, Florida.
There are plenty of pusssy wastelands in the United States, like the Naples, FL area where @biggoal lives. Most US areas where the population is under 100,000 are pusssy wastelands with few 20s/30s single women and a lot of single moms and/or overweight women.

Just Be White (JBW) is a bullshiit idea. There are tons of white males who are incels and nearcels. If someone were to break down the incel population by race/ethnicity in the United States, over 50% of the incel population in the United States would be white. Non-Hispanic whites are still 60% of the US population. Neil Strauss is an example of a white male who was incel/nearcel before he started running with Mystery and other PUAs.
Have u seen the amount of Indian and Asian incels? They very easily dwarf the white incel population in the west.
Let's say that there are 95 men in the United States.

58 are white, 19 are Hispanic, 12 are Black, and 6 are Asian. This roughly represents the proportionality to all men in the United States. We also know 26% of men 18+ were sexless in the United States in 2020-21. That means we're looking for 25 incels.

If we're looking for incel men from this population, you might get 2-3 Asian incels, 2-3 Hispanic incels, 2-3 Black incels, and 13-16 white incels.

Because there are more white men, there will be more white incels. On a percentage of the race's/ethnicity's population, there might be more East/South Asian incels. But not on sheer quantity.

Inceldom also looks different in the populations. The white incel is more likely to be some 45+ overweight guy in a sexless marriage whereas the East/South Asian incel is likely a never married guy under 35. Though there are plenty of white incels under 35 who are never married.

Being White is a huge advantage in dating. White women prefer you. Non-White women fetishize you. They’ll constantly want to show you off to family and friends. Post Social media pics of you & her together.
White women do prefer white men in general. When white women go for another race/ethnicity, Black men tend to be their top choice.

White men can do ok with Hispanic and East Asian women. In the United States, most Hispanic women end up with Hispanic men.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

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Women approaching is less common. I've not seen this type of female-led approach either.



There are plenty of pusssy wastelands in the United States, like the Naples, FL area where @biggoal lives. Most US areas where the population is under 100,000 are pusssy wastelands with few 20s/30s single women and a lot of single moms and/or overweight women.





Let's say that there are 95 men in the United States.

58 are white, 19 are Hispanic, 12 are Black, and 6 are Asian. This roughly represents the proportionality to all men in the United States. We also know 26% of men 18+ were sexless in the United States in 2020-21. That means we're looking for 25 incels.

If we're looking for incel men from this population, you might get 2-3 Asian incels, 2-3 Hispanic incels, 2-3 Black incels, and 13-16 white incels.

Because there are more white men, there will be more white incels. On a percentage of the race's/ethnicity's population, there might be more East/South Asian incels. But not on sheer quantity.

Inceldom also looks different in the populations. The white incel is more likely to be some 45+ overweight guy in a sexless marriage whereas the East/South Asian incel is likely a never married guy under 35. Though there are plenty of white incels under 35 who are never married.



White women do prefer white men in general. When white women go for another race/ethnicity, Black men tend to be their top choice.

White men can do ok with Hispanic and East Asian women. In the United States, most Hispanic women end up with Hispanic men.
I don't live in Naples. I did when i was a kid before moving north for awhile, but Naples is similar demographics to my area except Naples has some very rich old folks. Actually my areas median age is a couple years older.

Btw Naples would BE EXCELLENT if you were cougar hunting. I mean looking for a mid 50s divorced woman who had a rich husband who was a bit older than her. but you would need money.

Most of the people I went to high school with down here moved out of state totally or moved to big cities like tampa or jacksonville I've seen on facebook.

FL has TONS of single moms though on OLD and divorced.

Is that an education thing though? I'm from a major metro area, St. Louis. Up there it's like night and day. More in shape women, better looking women, more educated, and less divorced single moms.

What would explain major cities having better looking women?
 

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Just by their profiles. Divorced, 4 kids, older and worn out looking, profile bio, etc.
Try to understand from your real life experiences what women that are classified “damaged goods” or “bpd” and their relationship aftermath results actually are before carelessly throwing those labels around…
If you have no real life experiences or knowledge then let me point you in the right direction - go to Google - enter the term - “female, damaged goods” - try to understand.…

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an attractive woman in their 30s to early 40s that can't find a partner or maintain a long-term relationship is a red flag.

It's like a person that has every streaming app out there and every show available and yet says there's nothing good to watch. Only ever watches the first episode, goes meh, moves on to the next show and misses out on all the great shows out there that get better with time. All the options in the world yet can't find something good, yeah, red flag.

For some reason women seem to think matches are marriage commitments, get their egos all gassed up, and as a result don't actually invest in getting to know anyone, and are perpetually single with lots of dates or very short-term relationships and forever on the apps.
Been there, done that, got the t shirt. These types are a complete and utter waste of time.
 

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What would explain major cities having better looking women?
Women seek validation and attention.

Bigger cities = more validation and attention opportunities.

Why does Miami have the hottest local women in the US? There ya go.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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I don't have any success with online dating or social media. I've only done 2 cold approaches and one led to a date. I'd much rather approach women in person but women are almost never alone in public. 95% of the time they're with at least one friend it seems. If I could find a place where they are by themselves I could approach confidently all the time. When they're with a friend I feel like they're less receptive to a guy approaching them. The best place I've found so far to find single women is the park but it's like 20 degrees outside where I live rn.
Most guys do not do well on online dating for a couple of different reasons. Don't worry about it too much. Become involved with stuff if you currently are not. By going to different functions you'll naturally meet women and you'll have more opportunity since you can communicate with them directly. There's always different stuff going on in your city that you can attend, sometimes it is even free. Important thing is to just be around where the women are.
 

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Women seek validation and attention.

Bigger cities = more validation and attention opportunities.
Yup. I’m convinced most women use OLD mainly for validation. That’s why so many women will give you their number but you’ll never actually meet them.
 

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Just look at this gem I just came across on OLD!!!!

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(I’m the girl next door who doesn’t like roses, bacon or wearing jeans.) I've run across a few guys I know on here. It's kind of like being in detention after school and seeing a couple friends there. It's good to see them, but you're sorry they ended up in detention and make a mental note to swap stories later. If you choose to message me, please don't ask how the dating is going. This is not my first attempt at Match, this alone negates any mystery as to ‘how it’s going’. I've found my brother 8 times so far in my daily matches. It's not looking good for me. The most attractive trait I like in a date is his sense of humor. I appreciate wit, sarcasm and a bit of banter. I am financially responsible and want any date to be as well. Paying the minimum payment on 10 credit cards on time each month is not what I'm talking about either. I'm only interested in local dates at this time. If there is a toll road involved in us seeing each other or if we stand (yes, STAND!) for different flags at the Olympics, it's just not going to work. I prefer someone whose divorce has been final for 3 years. In other words, someone who has been able to successfully move beyond the hurt and no longer carrying the baggage of a past relationship gone awry. I appreciate good spelling and grammar. Please know the different types of there, your, lose, to, etc. Baking and cooking are a specialty. I've often been told to open a bakery. You need to be OK with the fact that on a rare occasion, I will simply eat cookies and only cookies for dinner. This falls somewhere between my weakness for them and the sheer pleasure that I’m an adult and can make that decision. The only addiction I have is dental floss. Hoping my date's addiction(s), if any, are just as harmless. For recreation and fun I'm up for almost anything. I attempted kite surfing lessons. I did get up, surfed and decided there are safer hobbies. I crossed off 'run a marathon' in 2016 after running in Chicago. People told me I would get addicted to marathons. This was not the case!! I ran the Bayshore half in 2017 and now just run for the fun of it. Yes, I know that sentence does not make sense to some people. :). For some reason, the list below seems to be a crowd favorite, I realize each 'add' is like taking a blowtorch to an already dry pond. But hopefully, in the end, it will bring along the right person. If not, it's been a real interesting time on here. Definitely have more stories than I ever thought I would. We are not a match if you(r)(‘re): •not showing any teeth in your photos •have kissy, duck lips, pouty, the smolder, or surprised face photos •sport a molester 'stache or soul patch •list your love language as 'touch'. This does not make you unique to any other guy that puts his 'love language' on here. It's ALWAYS touch. I picture someone driving a windowless van with 'FREE CANDY' written on the side •have multiple tattoos. Now, I can forgive one or two poor decisions while in college. I know I made plenty •wear jewelry. Unless it has something to do with serving our country, it's a turnoff *posted getting your vaccine anywhere on social media •travel photos. I've seen a lot of places. Go easy on the travel pics •height. This seems to be a tricky question for guys. If unsure, have a friend double check that number •don't have a profile picture •main photo is of you and your cat •have a selfie with your shirt off •wear Affliction T-shirt’s and/or wife beaters •have a selfie of you in bed •have a photo taken in Planet Fitness •have sunglasses on in every photo •send me a message that was written or suggested by Match •have 'lonely' or 'lost' as part of your name •over 35 and wear a flat brimmed hat •have profile pics of your pick-up •ask me for my weight and measurements •believe in reincarnation (farm animal or human) •believe the alignment of the stars has anything to do with personalities or relationships •voted for the puppet and still support it
 

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Just look at this gem I just came across on OLD!!!!

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(I’m the girl next door who doesn’t like roses, bacon or wearing jeans.) I've run across a few guys I know on here. It's kind of like being in detention after school and seeing a couple friends there. It's good to see them, but you're sorry they ended up in detention and make a mental note to swap stories later. If you choose to message me, please don't ask how the dating is going. This is not my first attempt at Match, this alone negates any mystery as to ‘how it’s going’. I've found my brother 8 times so far in my daily matches. It's not looking good for me. The most attractive trait I like in a date is his sense of humor. I appreciate wit, sarcasm and a bit of banter. I am financially responsible and want any date to be as well. Paying the minimum payment on 10 credit cards on time each month is not what I'm talking about either. I'm only interested in local dates at this time. If there is a toll road involved in us seeing each other or if we stand (yes, STAND!) for different flags at the Olympics, it's just not going to work. I prefer someone whose divorce has been final for 3 years. In other words, someone who has been able to successfully move beyond the hurt and no longer carrying the baggage of a past relationship gone awry. I appreciate good spelling and grammar. Please know the different types of there, your, lose, to, etc. Baking and cooking are a specialty. I've often been told to open a bakery. You need to be OK with the fact that on a rare occasion, I will simply eat cookies and only cookies for dinner. This falls somewhere between my weakness for them and the sheer pleasure that I’m an adult and can make that decision. The only addiction I have is dental floss. Hoping my date's addiction(s), if any, are just as harmless. For recreation and fun I'm up for almost anything. I attempted kite surfing lessons. I did get up, surfed and decided there are safer hobbies. I crossed off 'run a marathon' in 2016 after running in Chicago. People told me I would get addicted to marathons. This was not the case!! I ran the Bayshore half in 2017 and now just run for the fun of it. Yes, I know that sentence does not make sense to some people. :). For some reason, the list below seems to be a crowd favorite, I realize each 'add' is like taking a blowtorch to an already dry pond. But hopefully, in the end, it will bring along the right person. If not, it's been a real interesting time on here. Definitely have more stories than I ever thought I would. We are not a match if you(r)(‘re): •not showing any teeth in your photos •have kissy, duck lips, pouty, the smolder, or surprised face photos •sport a molester 'stache or soul patch •list your love language as 'touch'. This does not make you unique to any other guy that puts his 'love language' on here. It's ALWAYS touch. I picture someone driving a windowless van with 'FREE CANDY' written on the side •have multiple tattoos. Now, I can forgive one or two poor decisions while in college. I know I made plenty •wear jewelry. Unless it has something to do with serving our country, it's a turnoff *posted getting your vaccine anywhere on social media •travel photos. I've seen a lot of places. Go easy on the travel pics •height. This seems to be a tricky question for guys. If unsure, have a friend double check that number •don't have a profile picture •main photo is of you and your cat •have a selfie with your shirt off •wear Affliction T-shirt’s and/or wife beaters •have a selfie of you in bed •have a photo taken in Planet Fitness •have sunglasses on in every photo •send me a message that was written or suggested by Match •have 'lonely' or 'lost' as part of your name •over 35 and wear a flat brimmed hat •have profile pics of your pick-up •ask me for my weight and measurements •believe in reincarnation (farm animal or human) •believe the alignment of the stars has anything to do with personalities or relationships •voted for the puppet and still support it
And I’ll guarantee this broad complains to her friends that she can’t find a good man.
 

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What you heard is wrong. People move for financial interests. The coastal regions of the USA- California, NYC, Washington DC, etc. have positive higher-income migration and negative lower-income migration. In other words, richer people move in and poorer people move out (mostly due to housing costs). No one who can actually afford to live in California decides to go move to the middle of no where for “cultural reasons.”
Here in Floriduh we are getting a lot of people from California. However based on what they drive and look it's more middle to lower middle class people. Sometimes I'll see a wealthier looking older person.

Which is odd because Florida job pay sucks here and housing will be like California prices in a couple years except lower paying jobs.
 

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Here in Floriduh we are getting a lot of people from California. However based on what they drive and look it's more middle to lower middle class people. Sometimes I'll see a wealthier looking older person.
People that can actually afford to live well in California do not move out of California.
 
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