Getting jacked/ripped would eliminate 85% of the problems on this forum..

[Maximus Optimus]

If getting buff is so great then why is the Misc/bodybuilding forums filled with so many incels

Bodybuilding is so hyped up cause gyms wanna make money and people in the fitness industry need customers so they make up all these lies about the perfect body and how you need the perfect body to get a woman. Magazines are part of teh scam too. Some of these guys posting on here probably are in the business. Its so easy to see through.

 

[PRW63]

Ive noticed that men that weighlift alot are into themselves and like staring at themselves in mirrors. They think about how they look all the time. Thats not attractive to women at all. Just walk up to a woman you like and ask her out--that doesnt require muscles. Its pretty simple.

I'm only mildly jacked (very very mild), little extra "belly" I can't get rid of, and nearly 60 yo, 5'5", flat footed, bow-legged, grey hair, nearly bald, small jaw (can barely see my teeth, only half are real),...YET,...I typically don't have to much issues getting a date, and if I do it is usually because the chick has issues of her own (which I might not find out about till later). I never do it online, always face-to-face. I also ask strategecally,...I pay attention and don't ask ones that don't have their life in order, I don't ask "party girls" in their 50's that still think they are in their 20's, and I don't ask ones that don't show signs of a little return interest in me. I don't have a 100% success rate,...but it is still pretty good, no real complaints. That is why I don't take the whining and complaining too seriously from the guys in their 20s & 30s when I can have reasonable success at nearly 60yo.

 

[Jor-El]

This post makes ZERO sense!

Firstly nobody here is claiming getting jacked is all it takes to get woman.. I don't believe Cola is suggesting that you lift & puzzy literally throws itself at you.

It's all about increasing your SMV.. If you as a man are a 6.5 looks/status/finances wise, then getting jacked/ripped will more likely earn you an extra couple of points.. No question about that at all.

The massive confidence alone will give you better chance with the ladies.

Are you seriously comparing Indian woman with Western woman? It's whole different set of rules outhere mate.

Single girls over the age of 18 are considered a burden in India. The idea is to get them married off as quick as fuk!

The dude being jacked is the least of their concerns! Most Indian men are genetically skinny as fuk, it's what they are used to.

However as western culture explodes in India, we see it more and more often, jacked Indian men in bollywood movies etc.

The tide is turning.. Soon even the average Indian girl will want a jacked dude.

Also woman would rather pick a slim man, over a obese or fat dude.

The most common sense,in this thread,has come from @soulforge

 

[PRW63]

This post makes ZERO sense!

Firstly nobody here is claiming getting jacked is all it takes to get woman.. I don't believe Cola is suggesting that you lift & puzzy literally throws itself at you.

But there are so many posts that do that we really just get tired of seeing it, reading it, hearing it. Our responses are more generalized rather than directed at the OP specifically.

In India it is a disaster. Their feminist driven laws are crucifying men. It is far more dangerous for men legally there than in western countries. They have laws where a woman can claim rape retroactively even if the sex was willing. If a guy convinces a woman over there that he is "worth it", then she has sex with him, then later finds out he is a loser (based on her definition), she can say the sex was fraudulent and nail the guy for some form of "rape". The fact that their women may not be looking for "jacked" men just yet this early, is almost irrelevant in the big "Indian picture".

 

[nicksaiz65]

This post makes ZERO sense!

Firstly nobody here is claiming getting jacked is all it takes to get woman.. I don't believe Cola is suggesting that you lift & puzzy literally throws itself at you.

It's all about increasing your SMV.. If you as a man are a 6.5 looks/status/finances wise, then getting jacked/ripped will more likely earn you an extra couple of points.. No question about that at all.

The massive confidence alone will give you better chance with the ladies.

Are you seriously comparing Indian woman with Western woman? It's whole different set of rules outhere mate.

Single girls over the age of 18 are considered a burden in India. The idea is to get them married off as quick as fuk!

The dude being jacked is the least of their concerns! Most Indian men are genetically skinny as fuk, it's what they are used to.

However as western culture explodes in India, we see it more and more often, jacked Indian men in bollywood movies etc.

The tide is turning.. Soon even the average Indian girl will want a jacked dude.

Also woman would rather pick a slim man, over a obese or fat dude.

Exactly! Why would you not do something that increases your testosterone, confidence, and improves your looks/SMV?

Tbh lifting weights along with cardio is the closest thing to a magic pill that we have.

 

[soulforge]

If getting buff is so great then why is the Misc/bodybuilding forums filled with so many incels

Is it really that complex dude.. Getting buff alone does not get you the gina... It simply increases your sexual market value.

Dude who is a 6.5 can upgrade to 7.5 if he builds a killer body for himself.. Those extra points will help him do better in landing a woman. The confidence boost alone will improve his chances.

If your a goofy, beta, no job having, zero game having cuck, then obviously getting jacked isn't going to be enough to get the lay.

This isn't Quantum Physics guys!

Pretty obvious if you look like you take care of yourself, have better skin, healthier complexion, looking physically strong like a protector & can handle a show down..

Obviously that is more attractive than being a big lard azz sack of potatoes.

The guys who keep talking about the negatives of training & banging on about Gymcel are only thinking about females & sex.

Fitness/training has so many other benefits, besides woman.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Exactly! Why would you not do something that increases your testosterone, confidence, and improves your looks/SMV?

Because you're too busy doing other things and don't have time and energy to spare for it.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Because you're too busy doing other things and don't have time and energy to spare for it.

Stronglifts 5x5 only takes 3 hours a week!

Of course, the harder part is the nutrition.

 

[nicksaiz65]

Is it really that complex dude.. Getting buff alone does not get you the gina... It simply increases your sexual market value.

Dude who is a 6.5 can upgrade to 7.5 if he builds a killer body for himself.. Those extra points will help him do better in landing a woman. The confidence boost alone will improve his chances.

If your a goofy, beta, no job having, zero game having cuck, then obviously getting jacked isn't going to be enough to get the lay.

This isn't Quantum Physics guys!

Pretty obvious if you look like you take care of yourself, have better skin, healthier complexion, looking physically strong like a protector & can handle a show down..

Obviously that is more attractive than being a big lard azz sack of potatoes.

The guys who keep talking about the negatives of training & banging on about Gymcel are only thinking about females & sex.

Fitness/training has so many other benefits, besides woman.

Bang on

 

[soulforge]

One of the things in comics that gets debated is between these two who is stronger.

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The guy on the right who is smaller and less jacked will get more women. They both will get fear-based respect. Men that get no respect at all love to get fear-based respect because it is better than nothing. The guy on the right will also get admiration respect, yet he is less jacked but is in decent shape.

Looking like the guy on the right is really cool and with a strong character is a winning look. Looking like the guy on the left will get some attention from a subset and fear respect from most.

Given the choice, only a few crazy women might go with lefty.

These next two have the body that is good to have.
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They have different game however, probably the women that are 10s that like one would not like the other. Both are in shape without being over the top like the green guy. Women absolutely like the looks of these two guys and anyone with that type of body doesn't get pushed aside due to physical looks. This level is desirable and obtainable, being the green guy might be fun but it's in a different world.

Change the dress;
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It is a no-brainer, all women will pick the guy on the right(Bruce). Same physical build and similar to each other. The guy on the left doesn't have game (sorry Clark).

FFS the none motivated (excuse making) types on here go from bad to worse.

The guy on the right is fukin Jacked.. Yes jacked.. He isn't your typical obese or skinny or average type of dude.. To get a body like the guy on the right, you would have to hit the gym like crazy for probably Years!

The dude on the left is TOO DAMN BIG & is a fictional character.

How your body turns out is also down to genetics.. Some dudes get lean & ripped with good definition.. However they are not obviously noticeable as gym goers with Clothes on.

Some dudes get bigger & look abvious bodybuilders.

Either body type, still has a better chance of laying woman than a skinny weak looking dude or dude who is a fat mess

 

[PRW63]

Because you're too busy doing other things and don't have time and energy to spare for it.

Yea, and no one is thinking about age differences either. You get to a point where your body just doesn't respond to it any longer. I still have gym memberships (a couple actually) but I get little benefit from it any longer. If I try too hard I just end up in the emergency room. The knees are shot, I have some kind of soft tissue damage in the right arm that will no longer heal. Any yet my dating success is no worse now than when I spent more time in the gym. Heck in my 20s I raced dirt bikes in Hair Scambles and Enduros. Didn't do much in my 30s. In my late 40s - early 50's I did Cycling competively, two Bronse in the Regional Senior Olympics in my home state, 4th in the last Sprint Triathalon (running as a team). I'm no lazy bum,...but now it hurts to just walk and get up and down stairs and the gym barely does squat for me. Yet, somehow I do better with women now than I ever did in my entire life.

 

[Lookatu]

I'll just offer another perspective here from 49 years of being on this earth.

I used to be a gym rat when I was in college. The ONLY reason why I worked out was to get laid. Nothing else.

After college when I got into my first LTR(8 years). I let myself go and gained weight. After that ended, I started working out again to attract girls.

After banging many chicks I started doing it for myself. After getting married, I started doing it for my kids.

Working out(not necessarily getting "jacked") has all the benefits in life and no disadvantages, whether you're doing it to get girls, stay healthy for yourself, doing it so you can participate and be healthy for your kids, or staying fit to be desirable for your wife/gf(more sex).

But balance is the key: Improving mind, body, soul. Do not leave out any of them.

My $.02

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

Yea, and no one is thinking about age differences either. You get to a point where your body just doesn't respond to it any longer. I still have gym memberships (a couple actually) but I get little benefit from it any longer. If I try too hard I just end up in the emergency room. The knees are shot, I have some kind of soft tissue damage in the right arm that will no longer heal. Any yet my dating success is no worse now than when I spent more time in the gym. Heck in my 20s I raced dirt bikes in Hair Scambles and Enduros. Didn't do much in my 30s. In my late 40s - early 50's I did Cycling competively, two Bronse in the Regional Senior Olympics in my home state, 4th in the last Sprint Triathalon (running as a team). I'm no lazy bum,...but now it hurts to just walk and get up and down stairs and the gym barely does squat for me. Yet, somehow I do better with women now than I ever did in my entire life.

Or just don't care enough.

People here act like a person is weak and lazy if they don't lift weights. I have a million more productive and important things to do. I work every day.

And lifting weights has nothing to do with good health.

 

[MatureDJ]

I’ve been punched by 300lb tubs of lard and it hurts - a lot.
The weight you carry is really important - even if a lot of it is lard, it makes a massive impact on fighting.

 

[MatureDJ]

I think this forum's obsession with "getting jacked" is completely baseless. It is rooted in a fantasy that gaining muscle mass somehow makes you dominant and alpha.

It adds no value to a person "as a man" or to their overall health. It's just as likely to make a guy look insecure.

I base my opinions on what I see in the real world.

Being jacked does give you the physical strength to lift heavy stuff, and it's needed from time to time. I just bought a 2400W generator that weighs 90#; a FrameCel would not be able to lug it around. Being jacked also gives you the ability to defend yourself much better.

 

[soulforge]

Being jacked does give you the physical strength to lift heavy stuff, and it's needed from time to time. I just bought a 2400W generator that weighs 90#; a FrameCel would not be able to lug it around. Being jacked also gives you the ability to defend yourself much better.

And surprise surprise, shock horror.. Women like to be with a guy who can protect her & himself.. Some dudes on here just don't seem to get that.. They must enjoy being weak AF

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

My god you guys provide the best entertainment…keep it going, the belly laughs are helping me go from a 6 pack to an 8 pack.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in full effect.

and btw correlation is not causation brahs

p.s. chances are most those not taking the free and hard earned advice have never seen the doe eyes a beautiful woman will give you when you can toss her around during sex like a rag doll…cannot enumerate the number of chicks that ask me to bench them…

anyway thanks for comic relief

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

My god you incels provide the best entertainment…keep it going, the belly laughs are helping me go from a 6 pack to an 8 pack.

Dunning-Kruger effect, in full effect.

and btw correlation is not causation brahs

go to bodybuilding forum the Incel capital

 

[DonJuanjr]

What I don't understand is why guys on here are correlating one thing with incelibacy. Yeah there is probably a forum full of body builders who are blue pilled, and don't have success with women. Just like there is a forum full of rich guys who are blue pill and don't have success with women. Just like there is a forum full of guys of whatever aspect that is supposed to be successful at obtaining women that are blue pilled/beta and not successful with women. So what... Does this mean don't do anything and just accept being sexless? Just because there is a forum somewhere that is full of beta blue pills and they are not having success. It doesn't mean that being ripped/jacked won't help.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

In the time you’ve spent arguing here you could done at least 5x10 Olympic bench presses, albeit with an empty bar, but hey we all have to start somewhere, right?

Because you're too busy doing other things and don't have time and energy to spare for it.