Right. This is a guy who had natural advantages and put in the work. But that’s a far cry from the boogeyman of Chad—the guy who women throw themselves at effortlessly and who has unlimited choice
these men take risks and put in effort that the black pill crowd won’t—whether that’s learning to excel in an area that gives them status (sports, music, comedy), putting hours on the ground to approach women (whether that game is learned or unconscious),
every guy starts with different advantages or disadvantages, and different guys will have different ceilings. But the whole, “well, some guys don’t have to work for it” is bullsh1t. Any guy who has consistent access to sex with hot women is putting in some type of effort.
The natural advantage my friend has of being 6'4" helped a lot. At 5'10", I have fewer natural advantages. You're right that he put in the work of approaching. He never had spectacular openers in bar. I often had better openers when judged on a content basis. Many other men likely did as well. His openers were just good enough, which is what they needed to be. It would be erroneous to say he had unlimited choice.
There were also nights where people in our group of friends observed him taking home some subpar looking women. One of our mutual friends was also his roommate for a year, so he saw the quality and quantity of poontang that he would bang. Some nights he slammed an overweight woman that he approached near closing time.
There were times where he had sex with "cute" and "hot" women.
He put in the effort to excel in a sport and get a college scholarship for it. While I didn't meet him until after college, he stayed in good shape post college. Over the years, we have played some sports together. In his 5+ year LTR now and with increasing career responsibilities over the past 5 years, his commitment to fitness has diminished.
that’s still enough real-world experience not to have illusions about competing against some infallibly attractive boogeyman. Especially if you keep up with the guys who do well in that particular environment over a long enough period of time (vast majority end up like your friend).
I was disappointed in how my friend ended up. Some of our other mutual friends felt the same way. None of our other mutual friends had as a high of a peak as a seducer as he had.
When he got to his late 20s, the majority of his closer friends and ex-college classmates were in longer term relationships headed towards marriage. He felt a bit left out and a bit behind. Since he was a night game guy, he found himself having fewer options of people willing to go out to the bars with him. He pursued an extended relationship with a woman the bar that was his favorite one at the time. When more and more of his friends got married, he decided to follow their paths into marriage. He also caved into a marriage ultimatum from his girlfriend as well.
He ended up being a what a lot of men would call a beta male. He resembled a "Chad" for multiple years.
I actually think the nightlife is the single best way to get consistently laid. Not the easiest (social circle is by far the easiest), but the one that has the greatest longevity and the most versatility.
It has the highest concentration of hot girls (assuming you’re in a decentish city). You can approach more hot girls in 10 minutes at a solid bar or club than you’d find in an entire day outside of that environment (unless you’re in maybe Vegas, New York, Miami, select college campuses, or popular high end shopping areas)
Yes, nightlife has the highest concentration of attractive women. For the past ~10 years, I've lived in one of the 10 most populated U.S. metro areas. I'm not in New York or Miami. I'm also not in Las Vegas, which isn't a Top 10 in population. I've noticed that it is easier to see a higher quantity of attractive women at bars who are approachable than during the day. In my city, there's a popular walking path that is a good day game option (I have done day game there). You might see a comparable quantity of attractive women, but fewer are approachable due to earbuds and sometimes running. In an hour on the path, it is really only feasible to get in 2 approaches. It's possible to do way more than that in most bars. While there are advantages to day game, quantity of hot women will never be one.
Most social circles only have a handful of hot girls, if that. They’re largely age-restrictive and they get older over time (you probably won’t be meeting any 18-22y/o girls thru SC past the age of 25 or so unless you go back to school). Once you’ve hooked up with a few girls in a single SC, there are no more hot girls to hook up with. That’s why most guys end up settling with one of these girls.
It forces you to develop social skills with a wide array of people (girls at bars and nightclubs are never by themselves) and develop the ability to stand up to social pressure. This makes it easier to approach effectively during the daytime or to pull from social circles.
You can build social circles from girls you meet there that you wouldn’t otherwise have access to.
You’re not restricted to a single environment or city like you would be for social circle or if you rely on local status at a certain school (another reason a lot of guys settle when they graduate college or move cities and can’t generate new options).
I was never a social circle guy and neither was my 6'4" friend. Everything you said about social circles is accurate. For men 30-40, most other people they know of a similar age are in LTRs and married and know 30-40 year olds in a similar spot. If a man 30-40 gets a social circle introduction, it likely isn't with a 21-26 year old.
There are guys who do well in a certain situations. Some call what you describe in the last block of text/sentence as situational alphas. If I've known men like that, they were acquaintances I didn't know well.
